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I never thought Worthy was a good fit for us. He's a younger, faster version of Curtis Samuel. He's a weapon that you move all over the field. We had Slot and Inside/Outside guys completely covered with Samuel, Kincaid, and Shakir. We were completely barren at X. That said, if Worthy becomes a star that keeps the Chiefs offense explosive, none of that matters. All people are going to remember is we traded them the spot to take him. It's one thing to select someone else and let him fall to them. It's another to go "here arch rival, take your guy". Here's hoping last night was a mirage or Beane may never hear the end of it.

Saying you'd give up Dewayne Carter and Ray Davis for Jalen McMillan or Jermaine Burton is a fair opinion to have. Unfortunately, it wasn't a decision he agreed with or something that he wasn't able to do. On RB's, I tend to agree with you. On decent 3-Tech DT's, I wouldn't. Pre-Draft, the market was bone dry. DeShawn Williams represented the best of the few that were left on a very thin market Pre-Draft. He didn't make the team. That and the fact that the Draft was heavy on 1 Tech's but light on 3's, was the reason there was a run on them in Round 2. Some over drafted. Carter was literally the last one left that I felt was a Day 2 Pick and I liked him more than a couple of the guys who went in Round 2. With the way we rotate DT's, only having Williams (who was cut) behind Oliver, and the quality of guys on Day 3 - I don't agree with the concept of just putting anyone in that spot, which is essentially what we'd be doing if we hadn't taken him.

If these are completely separate statements - that you think McMillan and Burton will be steals and that you wish we Drafted more than one WR, that's fair. But if you're saying we should have Drafted one of them too, that wasn't a possibility without a trade up that would have cost us not just Dewayne Carter, but another player we picked too. They both went between our pick of Coleman and our next pick. EDIT: I forgot (and often do) that we had 2 2nd Round Picks and took S Cole Bishop at 6p. My mistake. I wasn't a fan of that pick, but hopefully he proves me wrong.

I'm aware of that. And I admit, I'm not 100% sure of the cap ramifications of an Injury Settlement. I'm just going off of the tweet that said it cost them 2.46m to IR rather than releasing them. If it were the same amount of cap or close to it to do an Injury Settlement Release, than it makes more sense to me. But if it's 2.46 more to keep them, keeping anyone but Clayton from that list is a little head scratching to me. Obviously. That doesn't change my opinion that it's unnecessary though. Especially Delaney AND Burgess.

I wasn't implying he did. When I said "he's never restructured a deal twice in the same season" - I was talking about Beane doing that to anyone.

I don't have a problem with Clayton. That makes sense to me as a long term development Draft Pick. Everyone else from that list is completely expendable. Shane Buechele was replaced by Mike White. I don't see any scenario where we keep 4 QB's when he's healthy or that he should be kept over Trubisky or White. Darrynton Evans is at best RB5. As it is, Frank Gore Jr. isn't even on the Roster. Dee Delaney and Terrell Burgess - I don't think we need to use cap space to keep one of them, let alone both. Like Evans as RB5 - these guys are S8 and S9. We've got the 5 guys we have on the Roster (which is a lot already). And then we've got Kareem Jackson and Lewis Cine on the Practice Squad. I realize injuries happen during the season and it's good to call up on guys who had Training Camp and have had the Playbook. But we'd have to take a lot of injuries to get down to these type of guys being necessary as depth. And ultimately, they'd almost definitely be sitting on the market to grab when they get healthy anyways.

Hamlin starting out of the gate isn't eye popping to me. Bishop and Edwards missed all of Training Camp. They're not going to start one of them on Mental Reps alone. I'd doubt it's going to stay that way after a few weeks, unless Hamlin surprisingly impresses. The surprising things to me are Samuel starting on the Outside and Ray Davis being 3rd on the RB depth chart. I suppose Samuel starting on the Outside doesn't necessarily mean that's where he's staying exclusively. He could take half the reps there and switch to the slot when Samuel or Kincaid is off the field and have Coleman or MVS in his spot. Davis being RB3 is bothersome to me. It screams the McDermott way of bringing Rookies along slowly. I don't want another Rookie situation where he's treating Davis as an afterthought until Year 2. If he's showing what he showed in the Pre-Season, I would really hate if Ty Johnson stayed cemented as the change of pace back.

This is why when people were talking about what to do with our Cap Space during Training Camp I was saying we don't have any. Paying 2.64m to keep those players on IR instead of releasing them is kinda baffling though.

We already massively redid Von's deal. He basically took a large pay cut that he didn't have to. I highly doubt they'd do anything else to his deal. There was a long list of moves we could do as far as releases, restructures, or likely extensions that were reported en masse by the media prior to Free Agency when we were MASSIVELY over the cap. I compiled a list. And we did every single one of them (that Beane was going to do), save for two. The only two moves we didn't do was a restructure to Ed Oliver's contract and a restructure to Matt Milano's contract. I think they didn't do Milano bc they wanted to see how he bounced back from injury first. Considering what happened, I don't think you're going to see it. But Oliver is still a restructure candidate. I'm sure someone's going to bring up Josh's contract. Not impossible, but I just don't see it. He's never restructured a deal twice in the same season. Idk why he didn't take the full amount he could - but I think if he was going to, he'd have done it then.

Why does it matter where it happened? How is it funny? Thankfully, he's in Stable Condition. Hopefully he recovers without any lasting damage.

I mean, if you're saying grown adults that treat 20 something reps in nothing Pre-Season games as the be all, end all of roster building are akin to little kids believing in Santa Claus - sure.

It marvels me how every single year posters treat Pre-Season games like they're the regular season. In the end, they're practically meaningless. But every year, even some respected posters, get up and arms about some late round pick or UDFA not making the roster because they liked what they saw in a short sample size in nothing games. If a player isn't winning over the coaches in meetings, showing flaws in Practice, aren't getting a grasp of the full playbook, and/or they've already got guys they like more for the number they're going to keep - a few good plays against other guys who are going to be cut in the second half of Pre-Season games means nothing. We aren't there every second of the day like the decision makers to see these things like they are. These "Hard Knocks" stories, as you put it almost always have the same ending. We cut them, people fret over us not being able to get them back, and 99% of the time we do. Bc the league values them the same as our evaluators do.

Virgil's a couple years younger and I think they believe he a.) Is a better player right now and/or b.) Has more upside. Cain is a guy who has been a UFL player the past couple years. He had a decent 2023 in the UFL and got a chance with Philadelphia in Training Camp last season. He was cut and not brought back to anyone's Practice Squad. So he went back to the UFL in 2024. He wasn't given a chance with anyone until we called him off the couch couple weeks ago. So they probably feel pretty comfortable no one's going to pick him up and we could bring him back anytime we want. Virgil's a guy who made the Broncos 53 as an Undrafted Rookie. He's dealt with injuries, but there's something there that the Broncos and possibly other teams wanted him as well. He's a bigger commodity right now.

Yeah, I got got by a fake Schefter account - thus the "for real this time" in the post. I got my 'For You' and 'Following' tabs mixed up and didn't pay close enough attention to the handle and generally don't get fake posts recommended to me even in the 'For You' tab.

(for real this time)

I was born in 84, so I only have very vague memories of when the WCW show on Turner Broadcasting was still using NWA branding.

Did you mean NWO or are you one of those old heads that still referred to WCW as the NWA during the Monday Night Wars? 😆

It's done. But with the unexpected addition of Lewis Cine this morning, we had to cut a WR to do it. Deon Cain released.

It was confirmed, but then refuted. I think it's probably happening, but it's not 100% yet.

Yeah, it's just the same chart from the beginning of Training Camp but with the players who were cut and removed from the Roster page taken out. I think when they were removed from the Website, they just automatically got removed from the Depth Chart.

So only carry 5 LB's so we can have 7 CB's (more like 8 with Cam Lewis being a CB and S) and 12 DB's total?

There goes that.

Another year of people disagreeing with cuts and fearing we can't get them back on the Practice Squad. Another year of getting all those players back on the Practice Squad.

He only had one year where he had more than 30 targets the entire season, in 2022. It was a 690 yard season. Like I said in my OP, I don't think he's Jerry Rice or some great Pro Bowl WR. But he did show something after leaving Philadelphia to still be in the league and produced fairly recently. To just list 4 or 5 year old tweets when he was busting off his first team, painting him as just that, and completely dismissing what he did in Las Vegas - isn't telling the whole story and as such, is disingenuous. If all he did was be the guy from the tweets you cherry picked from close to a half decade ago, he'd be out of the league by now.

I'm not saying the guy is Jerry Rice or anything. But cherry picking tweets from 4-5 years ago and before his years of improvement is extremely disingenuous.