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And to that end, what sense does doing it after 6/1 make? The Draft is over. Free Agency is bare bones. We save the same amount moving on from him after the season as we would after 6/1. You're essentially paying him to not be here for no gain. Makes way more sense to have him here for the season and if you need to move on from him, you do it before the start of Free Agency next year.

It just goes to show how badly he looked at the Combine that he's offering to essentially re-do it personally for us. Probably also speaks to how we view him at the moment that we're saying "yeah, gonna need you to do more than just a standard visit. We need to see the Combine was a mirage to consider you". I would be surprised if he improves his times though, even if he was sick. He'll be in better health, but he also put on added mass. Which in and of itself is a good thing bc weighing in less than expected was one of the many disappointments from his weekend in Indy. But it could also negate the time he lost from being a little under the weather. Though if he's able to get the same 40 with added weight, that's a good thing. More than the 40, he needs more than anything to improve his 10 yard split. Ranking dead last amongst all WR's at the Combine when his big trait is speed was staggering. Again, I worry that may just be what it is. He does hit high speeds as he gets down the field. But coming off the line, you wouldn't think he's as fast as he's supposed to be. It's strangely as if he has long speed, but not burst at the line.

Starting DT's aren't cheap. They've been costing a fair amount this offseason. Looking over the contracts of the top 10 signed since FA opened, it seems pretty in line with the value of what he is and what they're costing: Christian Wilkins - 4 yr 110m (27.5 aav) Arik Armstead - 3 yr 51m (17.5 aav) D.J. Reader - 2 yr 27.5m (13.75 aav) Grover Stewart - 3 yr 39m (13m aav) Sheldon Rankins - 2 yr 24.5m (12.25 aav) Justin Jones - 3 yr 31.165m (10.38 aav) Daquan Jones - 2 yr 16m (8m aav) Raekwon Davis - 2 yr 14m (7m aav) Jordan Elliott - 2 yr 10m (5m aav) Shelby Harris - 2 yr 9m (4.5 aav)

He's started 30 games over the past two seasons. You can do a lot worse at rotational 1T. Couldn't be any worse than Tim Settle. I don't know what you're expecting. If you look over the list of FA DT's left, there really isn't much.

Yeah, local beat reporters never seem to hear anything before it happens or report on it. So I tend to agree it's more likely he's just guessing we'd love to have him rather than specifically saying we're in on him. I also agree with his sentiment that Simmons' price tag will probably be too high. It'd be great to have him, but I'd doubt we'd pay that kind of premium for the Safety position. Would love to be wrong though.

Wonder if Muki knows whether we're talking to him or is just guessing everyone is? Though I'd agree that he'll be another Armstead situation where he'll be overpaid:

That's not possible. You can't trade before 6/1 with a Post 6/1 designation. It's not like a 6/1 release. For a trade to happen to fall under the financial parameters of what would come Post 6/1 - the trade would have to be done after 6/1.

Getting the weight back helps. Him weighing in less than expected was a big knock. Nothing to be done about the height being less than expected or the bad on field performance. But if he times better in the 40 and especially the 10 yard split (which was dead last) and runs drills better - than maybe we can chalk the Combine up to being sick. Still things on tape that are worrisome. Despite the highlight reels, there were some games against low level, non-NFL caliber CB's where he struggled. But if they like what they see in the Private Workout, maybe we can steal him if he free falls based on the Combine. I'm still out on him in Round 1 though, personally.

Signing both Tyler Huntley and Jameis Winston has to spell the end for Deshaun Watson. What a disaster that trade was.

He was high on my list for us before we got Samuel. Good get for New England's Rookie QB, whoever they choose.

If he was considered a problem to Beane, he'd have moved him before locking in a check for 18.5m. There's no scenario where we get a return for him worth us paying that much money to him, not having him on the team, taking a cap hit on top of it Pre 6/1 AND the other team picking up the cap hits on his contract. Post 6/1 there's no point in doing it. The Draft has already happened. The FA market is bare bones. It'd essentially be us not having him on the team for rollover money - which we could have anyways while still having him on the team this year and moving on from him next year. There's a reason the media was bringing it up the past couple days. If it were to happen, it would have been done before 4 PM today.

I think there's a good chance that we hear him say (if the cryptic tweets mean anything football related at all) that a lot of this stuff that people were reading into as him being unhappy or trying to facilitate a trade was actually just a genuine concern that he would be moved, following the way things ended and the long time players that were moved off the team.

I feel like Mike Edwards is someone we'll be in on at Safety.

Exactly. It's nowhere close to that. It doesn't factor in Samuel, Jones, Hollins, Morrow, or Johnson. Even if the latter 3 are league minimum and Samuel and Jones have low cap hits in Year 1 - those signings are still going to account for 50-75% of that number.

Whoa whoa whoa. Let's not get carried away. I'm not saying that 😆 I still maintain we need another Top Flight WR to take things to the next level and that Round 1 is the place to do that. I'm just saying that I keep seeing "we must find our Diggs replacement this season" and that's not true. We need to find a Starting Outside WR to replace Davis this season. Ideally they can replace Diggs at some point. But if they're not there when the time comes, we'll have at least another Offseason to remedy that. As for the Center, they made a point to tell the media that McGovern is switching to Center and signed Edwards (who was a Starter before he came here under Kromer and someone Kromer loves) to replace McGovern at LG. That's the Starting Line for this season. We'll want to take a guy as Depth and Insurance. But that's not something you address in Round 1. Maybe not even in Round 2. Exactly. That's the hope. But if they aren't ready to take that step after this year, we'll have next offseason to address the position further.

We actually don't. While I certainly hope the WR we Draft this season can eventually be our #1, it's far from a guarantee that whomever we select is going to be a top flight #1 WR by next season. Diggs will be here for at least this season. If we do have to move on from him next year (which is not a 100% guarantee depending on this year's performance) and the Rookie we Draft isn't ready to take on that role in Year 2 - then we sign or trade for someone else next year. Or we try again in next year's Draft. This year, we just need to replace Gabe Davis. Hopefully they're a hit and a future #1. But just as we're replacing Gabe this season, if we move on from Diggs, we'll need a body to replace him then too. The hope is that this year they'll be WR2 and maybe next year they'll be WR1. But if not, they can stay at WR2 and we'll look for someone else to be WR1. Long story short, this idea that we NEED to Draft our Diggs replacement for the future this season is overblown. Yes, you hope that whomever we Draft can become that guy. But we have at least another Offseason between now and then.

I think you're reading too much into the stats tweet he did. But I guess that's kind of par for the course for this thread. He wasn't complaining about his targets. He was simply using his stats to argue that he's still "him". He verified that was the point of the tweet in a follow up tweet. Even if he hadn't explained the tweet and we were reading things into it, as is the case with most of the things he says, there's more than one way to look at it. He could have easily been saying "look what I did while ranking just 19th in targets".

Damn. I really thought Adam Butler would have been a good fit for us as a Rotational DT that wouldn't break the bank. 5 Sacks and 8 TFL's on 0 starts last season.

Next year, it wouldn't be a shock to me or practically anyone. Unless he had a massive year.

Of course. He's 30. But next year is the soonest it should be done. Both from a financial standpoint and a roster standpoint.

It's a different day and age. This is what people born in the mid 90s and 2000's do. It is what it is. It's not so different than a lot of players. Ever looked at Rasul Douglas' Twitter account? The difference is Diggs is an NFL Celebrity. Everything he says or does captures the fan and medias attention. Is it his fault that everyone chooses to play the Da Vinci Code with everything he says or does? Should he stop being him just bc people hold him to a different standard?

Yeah, pretty much all of the Simulators rankings are f-cked. Honestly, they're kind of a waste of time. I've yet to find one where I think it's pretty spot on. And there's always a handful of players on the board at spots where I'm like "no way". Like Jefferson. I'd already taken Jackson and Hall, but then I'm looking over my options at 248 and thought "wait, what?".

What I see any time I read "shut up and play!"