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This is going to come off a little hot and I'm not singling you out, as I saw many posters doing this with their 53 predictions. But if you're the type of person who is surprised that Codrington made it, you're also probably the type of person that completely ignores Special Teams when putting a Roster together amd focuses 100% on what a player brings in their positional grouping on Offense and Defense. Year in and year out, they've shown that is not how this regime operates. McDermott said on Hard Knocks and says every year "multiple players are going to make this team for Special Teams alone". It's not just lip service. On multiple roster projections, I saw people cut all of the Returners we used in Training Camp and the Pre-Season. When i'd ask who the Returner is, they'd say this person or that person can handle it. Basically with a "just put someone back there, it doesn't matter" sort of mentality. And again, that's just not how they do things. When no one impressed in last year's Return competition, they went out and trade for, and rostered Brandon Codrington for the job. And that was when the Return game was marginal at best. This year, there's actually going to be Returns and the Return game has added importance. There's no way they were just going to throw Ty Johnson back there and call it a day. A roster spot was going to be given to the winner of the competition between Codrington and Shenault - who handled pretty much all of the returns in Training Camp and the Pre-Season.

You're right, I apologize. I was under the impression that the rules for who isn't subject to waivers were longer than just 4 seasons.

I wouldn't expect that. Hollins started 15 games for us last season. Our "new Hollins" is Joshua Palmer. Is he WR5 or WR6? Because we're not going to dress 6 WR's on Game Day. I'm excited for the kid that the kid made it. But I don't see him getting many opportunities, unless there's injuries and probably multiple. The focus of the passing attack from the WR position is going to be Shakir, Palmer, and Coleman. Samuel, if he can stay healthy, will be our all over the field gadget player. Again, happy for Shavers. But if you're expecting he's going to be on the field a ton and going to be putting up big numbers - I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment.

This wasn't the finale. There's another episode next week. That's where you're going to see that stuff.

For there to be a "replacement for Forrest", Forrest would need to have had a spot on the 53 man roster to replace. On top of the 3 you mentioned, there's also Hamlin and Lewis (who is a Safety and a Nickel and a ST'er). We don't have a spot on the Roster for another Safety and he's not going to replace any of those guys. It honestly feels like now that Forrest hasn't replaced Hamlin, people are scrambling to find literally any other Safety out there that can be their new hope to see signed to replace him. It's time for those people to move on to the acceptance phase. That isn't going to happen. Especially not for a 33 year old Safety who's played a total of 5 starts in only 29 games over the past five seasons combined - that would have to learn the Defense and the Playbook while real bullets are flying.

Jakobi Meyers hasn't been waived by the Raiders...

Because he was always brought in knowing he was going to sign to the Practice Squad. Being a veteran, he doesn't go through Waivers. So they agreed to a PS spot deal before they could do it. In the meantime, they had open spots on the 90 man roster and while on the active roster, he could use the facilities and work with the team and coaches yesterday and today until he was released. Basically came in yesterday and started working and won't miss any time in the building while being moved from the 90 to the PS, where he always knew he was going to end up.

He's 33 years old and over the past 5 seasons has played a total of 29 games and had just 5 starts. "Miles ahead of Rapp" is just an insane take. The player of 2013-2018, sure. But this isn't that same player anymore. He hasn't been that guy since tearing his ACL in 2019. On top of that, he'd have to learn the Defense and Playbook on the fly. He'd have to be taught the Defense during the regular season, when they have a million other things going on. At this point, they're only going to do that with guys who have the potential to be big time impact players or if they're ravaged with injuries. They're going to go with the guys they've had working with the Playbook all off-season. There's absolutely no way they'd move even Hamlin off the roster for Jefferson. Maybe a Practice Squad spot, but even that is pretty unlikely, given his age and the learning curve he'd have here. They're not going to develop a 33 year old Safety into this squad.

First off, it's more than 7m. It's over 8.6m. And never sees the field? He missed a total of 3 games last season. 4 games over the last 3 years. He was used sparingly, as he battled turf toe to start the season - which like a hamstring is a kiss of death for WR efficiency. And do you think that KJ Hamler or Laviska Shenault would see the field more than Curtis Samuel? No, Hamler or Shenault would be most likely inactive unless there were an injury.

There's 2 huge differences there: 1.) He became a Cancer for the team where we were left with pretty much no choice to remove him from the environment. 2.) We were able to trade him for a 2nd Round Pick. If a team was willing to take on his contract and relieve us of over 7m in Cap Space, best believe we would have considered it. These two situations aren't remotely comparable.

Anyone who was saying that simply wanted anyone but Hamlin to make the roster and was over hyping them for that reason.

Not a surprise at all. We've got 1 CB near the top of the Depth Chart on IR (to return) and another that is no guarantee to start Week 1. If anything, it was a little bit of a (pleasant) surprise that we didn't keep Ingram and Jackson. Says to me they don't expect White to miss much time, if at all.

Real simple on Samuel, unless someone wanted to trade for him he was going to be here. We'd be paying over 8.6m for him not to be here as a cut. People like to point to O.J. Howard being cut, cutting Samuel would be the monetary equivalent of cutting practically THREE O.J. Howard's. Yes, we'll every once in a Blue moon cut someone with some guaranteed money. But there's a limit to how much guaranteed money we're willing to throw away. When you're on the hook for that much, you might as well try and get something out of him. And i'd rather take an injury risk Curtis Samuel over a K.J. Hamler or Laviska Shenault - especially when we're already paying for him. Dewayne Carter was a Day 2 Pick last season. If you saw something in the player to spend a Round 3 Pick on them, you shouldn't give up on Day 2 Picks after only 1 season of development.

Not even a little bit of a surprise. We brought back everyone from last year's Safety room. Jordan Hancock showed a quick aptitude for Safety. And Hamlin's contract was fully guaranteed. Cutting him would result in a 750k loss in general Cap and 2 million in Dead Cap. Plus, regardless of how fans feel about him, McDermott trusts him. Forrest was a longshot to begin with. When they Drafted Hancock and started playing him at Safety, it was all over.

I'd imagine they'll add Dane Jackson to the Practice Squad and if he's not ready by Week 1 or 2, they'll call him up to go alongside Christian Benford, Ja'Marcus Ingram, and Dorian Strong.

With KJ Hamler and Jimmy Ciarlo cut, Hard Knocks has their annual sad turk stories for tonights episode.

He won't be coming here, as has been discussed with the injuries we have at CB. After turning them down earlier in the off-season, he changed his mind. Must have not had a better option.

I think it shows that White won't be put on IR to Return and likely won't miss more than a week or two, at most. They roll with Dorian Strong and Ja'Marcus Ingram and call up Dane Jackson from the PS for a week or two, until Tre returns. If needed at all.

Moore did one Return all Pre-Season and didn't do much of it during Training Camp. Coleman hasn't taken a single return since becoming a Bill. Khalil Shakir is dealing with a High Ankle Sprain and just got out of wearing a Boot. He may suit up for us Week 1, but I don't think they're going to push him to do Returns. With the new rules this year, Kick Return is going to be very important. While I understand the concept of wanting to fit certain positional players into the depth chart - I don't think this regime is the type to go "we'll figure it out, just throw someone back there". Brandon Codrington, Laviska Shenault, and KJ Hamler handled pretty much all of the Return game during Training Camp and the Pre-Season. I don't see a way that they cut all of them. Likely, Codrington won the gig and is the one that sticks. Even last year when no one impressed them on Returns, they went out, traded for, and rostered Codrington specifically for the role. And the Return game was negligible last year compared to this one.

Even when I saw what was posted, I still couldn't wrap my head around it. It just made zero sense to roster a 33 year old Jordan Phillips, who spent all off-season on the couch. Bad look for Ryan Talbot to specifically make a point of saying the signing was 'to the Bills 53 man roster, NOT the practice squad". At least he realizes it was a dumb move to run with that before he got the full details.