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Not an issue at all because he's going to be WAY out of our price range. He's a 2 time Pro Bowler with 5 years of experience at the age of 24 with freakish size and athleticism and a completely clean bill of health. Regardless of how many feel about him around here, being young, healthy, having had success, and having the measurables are what gets one paid in FA. And he has all of it. His age and wear and tear for his level of experience is completely unheard of. With the expected raise in cap, I expect his contract to be north of 100 million dollars. Most likely the largest contract for an Inside Linebacker in NFL history. If not Roquan's 100 million dollar deal, than it won't be very far behind. He's already said he's testing the market and once that happens - it's over. No decision at all.

Under a 10 million dollar 1 year deal? I don't think so. Exactly. And a 10 million dollar cap hit on that one year. I think fans are really over exaggerating the amount of return he'd get us. Wouldn't be enough to even replace him with a player of his caliber. So why do it?

We're losing Jordan Poyer already and Damar Hamlin is no guarantee to return this season and you want to trade Micah? That's madness. Down a LG and needing upgrades at RG and RT? Let's create a hole at Center too. Reggie Gilliam? Reward a guy for working hard and doing things the right way and then ask him to restructure/cut him a year later, even though he's performed well. Yeah, that's a great message to send to the locker room. And everyone's all gung ho on moving Ed Oliver. But he was performing rather well when Von Miller was in and he was getting help from better DE play. Moving on from him would leave us with just Daquan Jones and Tim Settle. Whatever we get for him would have to be used to get a Starter to replace him. I don't understand how fans are looking at the team needing upgrades while also needing to fill 24 holes from Free Agents leaving and think "let's create more holes elsewhere".

Even if he likes him as #2, we still need another viable outside WR at least on the same level as Gabe Davis. Last year (and common sense) proved that you can't have just 2 quality outside WR's, a bunch of slots (Crowder, McKenzie, Shakir, and later Beasley), and a Special Teamer (Kumerow). Regardless of who is "#2" - we will most likely only have 3 true WR's under contract from last season. So he's going to have to add there. My hope is Diggs, Davis, at least 1 more strong outside WR (via FA/Trade and/or the first couple rounds of the Draft), and Shakir in the slot (McKenzie released for cap space). Filled out by mid to late round picks and/or bargain FA's identified as fits or diamonds in the rough.

Yes, we do have to build the line. But Devin Singletary and Taiwan Jones (even though he's more of a Special Teamer) are Free Agents. Nyheim Hines has a cap hit too large for his role so he'll either have to agree to a pay cut or be cut. So right now the only Running Back that will surely be here is James Cook. Building the line or not, we have a big, big hole at RB right now. It's worth talking about and not an offense on building through OL to talk about it.

I think that's kind of an odd question. I mean, maybe there are *some* people that became a fan of the team because of a single play. But I think most of us are fans because they were the local team, the team they were raised on, or simply liking players or play style. I think a better question would be what's your favorite Bills plays and/or what made you a fan? I don't think you're going to find many posters on this board that will point to a play being the thing that made them love this team.

This is why i'm against trading Ed Oliver. Yes, we'd save 10 million dollars. But we'd have to then use premium resources in a top Draft pick or cap equity to replace him. With Jordan Phillips also a Free Agent, we'd be down to just Daquan Jones and Tim Settle at DT. So how much are we really saving by getting rid of him?

Perhaps it was just injuries, but he was buried in the depth chart at the end of the year. It was confusing to me because at the beginning of the year he was a Starter who seemed to be holding his own. Then when he came back from the hand injury, he couldn't get playing time over Tre, Kaiir, and Dane. But re: the OP - I agree. If Damar can return and Benford is switched to Safety as alluded to, I really think that position could be covered. Maybe sign a cheap vet you think could work in the system and/or Draft a guy you like in the midrounds. But I don't see the need to select one in Round 1 or 2.

I mean - not completely. But in a way, yes. After all, we only have Diggs, Davis, Shakir, and McKenzie under contract. And McKenzie will most likely be a cap casualty. That leaves only 3 WR's on the roster. Diggs is #1. End of story. Don't replace Davis in the sense of getting rid of him. But he should at least be sharing reps with a more reliable WR, if not moved down the depth chart in favor of one completely. That leaves just Khalil Shakir. He showed some real promise as a Rookie and hopefully will continue to grow as McKenzie's replacement in the slot.

Everyone drafts for need. No one takes someone at a position they have filled with a great player with their first pick if they have holes on the team. But you want that value and need to line up. If it doesn't, trade down. Unluckily for us, we're going to have a lot of holes to fill going into this Draft. So BPA and Need will almost assuredly line up nicely.

I don't see it. Edmunds is 24 years old, with 5 years of experience, a relatively clean bill of health, elite measurables and athleticism for a man his size, and 2 Pro Bowls while QB'ing one of the top ranked Defenses in the NFL. Regardless of how people feel about him around here, those are a lot of qualities that go into what makes one HIGHLY overpaid on the open market. He's already said he's going to test that field and that market is going to be well beyond our price range. He's gone and people on this board are going to be shocked by the contract he signs for with another team.

He was born and raised in Southern California. Went to college at USC. Went back to Southern California to play for the Rams the second his Rookie deal ended. I'd bet the house that he'll end up back with the Rams or with the Chargers next season. His heart is in Southern California.

I'd imagine it had more to do with being cut from the Practice Squad and not being one of the WR's brought back on a Futures deal. Best believe if he still had an in with us or any NFL team, he wouldn't have signed with the CFL.

*Insert Frozen 'Let it Go' here*

In a vacuum, maybe. However, this year with 24 Free Agents including multiple starters and being over the cap - I don't know that we can afford to be giving up picks in a Draft where we already only own 6 picks. I think trading down is much more likely this season.

Apparently, someone's giving him a shot. I wonder who?

Hodgins is a big body, but does not have speed. He's a red zone, contested catch guy who has no Special Teams ability. Also, John Brown was added 3 weeks after Hodgins was signed by the Giants. Cole Beasley after that. Beane didn't choose them over Hodgins. We'll never know if Beane offered him a spot on the 53 or not when the Giants called. Very possible he did and Hodgins himself chose the Giants. He's caught on with a team that had a weak roster, a weak WR core, and clearly overachieved. Good for him. But let's stop turning him into some Pro Bowl player deserving to be spoken of in the same breath as Wyatt Teller. Deep rostered teams like we were at the time put players on the Practice Squad that will be poached by less deep teams. Like Raheem Blackshear in Carolina. Good for him as well. There were spots for them there that wasn't here at the time.

I'm in the same spot as you. I figured things would chill out after some time and especially after it became clear no one was going anywhere. But it's just as bad now as it was right after the loss. I can understand the fears that maybe this is far as this coaching staff can get us and of Beane's Drafts. But is this what the board is going to be all 2023? People posting that the coaching staff and front office need to go unsolicited in every reply? Secretly or not so secretly rooting on the teams demise so that there will be change? It's become a really depressing toxic place of late for sure.

You haven't heard any discussion about this? It's been discussed in depth about how absurdly dumb it is.

That may or may not be true. What is true however is that neither of them are going anywhere this season. So it's kind of a moot point to harp on. Is this going to be the state of the board all year? Posters talking ish and rooting on their failures in hopes that theyll be gone? Feels really toxic around here right now.

I know the end of the season was disappointing. But i'm amazed at how this board has become almost exclusively Sean McDermott hate posts as of late. The amount of vitriol towards he and the rest of the coaching staff is incredible.

Stefon Diggs, Gabe Davis, Khalil Shakir, and Isaiah McKenzie are the only WR's under contract. Considering McKenzie was healthy scratched down the stretch, he may or may not even be here. So they're going to have to address the position heavily regardless. Whether that means they'll be looking to get someone as a #2 above Gabe or not.

Oliver is much like Edmunds in fans minds. He's not a bad player. Personally, I think he's underrated. But being good is not good enough for fans. They point to his Draft status and what others have become in the same Draft to justify that he's no good and should pack his bags. It's ridiculous.

There will be another Tackle brought in as David Quessenberry is a FA. But Beane and McDermott seem to have faith in Brown and blame injuries and lack of a Training Camp for any lack of success fans see. So I don't see them bringing in someone to outright supplant him. Just another guy like Quessenberry (and it wouldn't shock me to see them bring back Quessenberry himself) that would be good depth and/or competition to him in Training Camp.

1.) If he's a "JJ Watt type of player" - he won't be there at 28. 2.) If we Draft a 3rd Defensive End in 4 years with our top pick (not including also our 2nd pick in 2021) - I think the fan base would revolt. Our first 2 picks need to be WR and O-Line (unless one of them is addressed in FA or the Trade Market).