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Just came across this article where it's said the asking price is 2 1st Round Picks PLUS a Pro Bowl Calibur Player "just to get the conversation started": https://www.si.com/nfl/cowboys/news/patrick-surtain-trade-rumor-dallas-cowboys-outrageous-asking-price-broncos-cost-deadline As much as what you're saying makes sense that with Elam failing and Tre most likely not coming back, we'll need to address CB - that price is just WAY too much for one player. Especially when you consider our cap situation of 33 million over and the amount of other positions we need to upgrade and/or replace with the amount of FA's we have next season. It's more than just C and WR2. Miller and Rousseau are the only DE's we have under contract next season. Oliver is the ONLY DT we have under contract. Cook is our only RB. Poyer (who may need to be replaced himself) and Hamlin our only Safeties. And there's still other depth players that will need to be re-signed/replaced on top of those (and that doesn't take into account upgrades as well). Not to mention, we'd also have to replace the "Pro Bowl Calibur" player we'd need to package with the picks on top of it. We can't afford to give up our 1st Rounder next year. Let alone also the following year AND a stud player on top of that. We just can't.

Patrick Surtain II is a popular name amongst fans for a trade. But they aren't going to trade him. It's been said he's 1 of the, if not THE, core player they want to build around in a rebuild. It makes sense. No team sells off all of their parts in a rebuild. You need a core. They spent a top 10 pick on him just 2 years ago. And if he were available, the cost of a 23 year old, Top 10 Pick, Cornerback, with a clean bill of health, with 2 and a half years left on a Rookie contract, and who was a 1st Team All Pro just last season - would be MASSIVE. Probably multiple 1st Round picks.

It's particularly frustrating when he does it before a play and it gets to the refs late, the play plays out for us, it's a positive play, and then it gets negated because we find out he called Timeout before they play.

This is true. Stuff that gets reported on as rumors involving us before they happen, never happen. Fans work themselves up into a frenzy and threads are made for pages and pages and then nothing.

Only on Special Teams from what I saw.

I still can't get over the amount of posters and some respected posters at that, that were banging the table for him to be released because he had a quiet Pre-Season.

The "omg we need to make a trade on offense" crowd had a rough day today. High level performances by players like Dalton Kincaid, Gabe Davis, Khalil Shakir, and James Cook in a new look, non 12 personnel Offense that was cooking is going to temper the sense of urgency to make a move (if there were any to begin with).

It used to be a given that Josh was going to punch it in himself at the 1. Why are we not doing that anymore?

Remember when everyone wanted to cut Khalil Shakir after Training Camp because he had a quiet Pre-Season? Peppridge Farm remembers.

Really depends on your Internet connection.

Nope. Just the remainder of this season.

We're giving them, an albeit under performing, 22 year old 1st Round CB with up to 3 years on his deal for a RB with 10 regular season games left on his deal and a 6.3 million dollar price tag - and we're also sending a 4th in exchange for a 7th? No way.

In a vacuum, you want Henry over Fournette all day. But if we passed on Fournette for Ty Johnson, does Beane think Henry is so much better than Fournette in the same role that he'd give up 6.3 million and a Draft Pick for him instead of peanuts for Fournette? I question that.

Yeah, because he's seeing the amount of gullible Bills fans that are replying, following, and giving him traffic. If there's any truth to Henry and the Bills, he'll claim to have broken the story. When in reality, the guy knows nothing and is connected to nothing. Just a dude who latches on to an idea he thinks is feasible and wants to claim he was the "first".

He has to be on the market. As bad as he's been with us, no way you make him a healthy scratch for Josh Norman this soon after signing him unless you're trying to keep Elam healthy. Elam never made sense from Day 1. He had high potential coming out of College, but he was a man to man cover Corner pretty much exclusively. He was a projection as a Zone scheme player.

Probably just trying to boost their bets. They've got us at the top of the list for Henry and Adams. Shifting odds for Super Bowl will make people think we're going to make one of those moves happen - which in turn would make people bet either on the team and/or us landing one of them. Shifting the odds raises eyebrows and makes people think "hmm... they know something and I better hop on that now".

Agreed. Hopkins makes more sense and is feasible. Just over a million with nothing guaranteed after. We can't even afford Henry right now and even if we could - I can't wrap my head around Beane giving up a Draft pick and over 6 million for just over a half of a season for any RB. That's not his style. Vegas odds mean nothing. Especially before there are any legitimate leaks from legit sources. The odds shift when actual news comes out. We're at the top of the list for Adams too and that's completely infeasible. We were top of the list for Hopkins too. I remember Fournette a couple years ago, we were at the top of the list for that. Vegas just looks at good teams that could use help and that's it.

80%? Yeah, he's out of his mind. Henry's got 10 regular season games left on a 1 year Franchise Tag. A 2nd (even if he agreed to a long term deal, which we wouldn't do) is an insane price for half of a season. More so when you consider the cost is 6.3 million for 10 games

CJ Golson is not a reliable source. Like most on Twitter, he just throws things against the wall that make sense in hopes that one will stick and it "legitimizes" him. He's gotten lucky a couple times but 9.5 times out of 10, he's way off base. He posts stuff like this all the time that goes nowhere. Rule of thumb - if it isn't an official employed reporter, it's bullsh-t. Hell, sometimes even they report BS. But randos on Twitter don't have sources. They just want you to believe they do and prey on people desperate to hear what they want to hear for followers.

Joey Porter Jr. was drafted to take over his starting position and he's catching on fast. Levi started the last game, but Porter ended up taking more snaps than him. If they feel comfortable with the depth behind Peterson and Porter to step up to the 3rd and 4th spots - he may be able to be had for a pick. Some people covering the team have thought the same thing: https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2023/10/25/23931240/4-perfect-trades-for-the-steelers-to-make-before-the-deadline-dan-moore-donte-jackson https://atozsports.com/pittsburgh/steelers-trade-rumors-cb-levi-wallace/

Shayne Graham was a Buffalo Bill as well. He's more known for his tenure with the Bengals, but he was our Kicker in 2001.

Yes, he did. And don't get me wrong - I'm not looking at him as some sort of savior. But we're over here signing Josh Norman. Tre's hurt and Elam has been a player they prefer not to have on the field. If something happens to Benford or Jackson, we're relying on him and/or Ja'Marcus Ingram. What Levi provided for us in the past is about the best you can hope for right now. Especially with a regime that (at the very least on the Defensive side of the ball) feels that learning the playbook midseason is futile and leans EXTREMELY heavy towards plug and play players who have experience in the system. Wallace would give us a 3rd Outside CB who is at least serviceable in our system. Hopefully to only provide more in relief, but (at least slightly) better insurance in the event of another injury. Not every move is made to upgrade a starting position, way more moves are done for depth and insurance.

A new replica jersey is $130. A stitched limited jersey is $175. If it were the old days when jerseys were only $60, i'd see where you're coming from no question. But not everyone can just shell out almost 3-4x the price of a restitching for a whole new jersey.

Maine and Kirksey are MLB's. Bernard isn't the problem back there. It's Dorian Williams and Tyrel Dodson at OLB that's the real problem. Neither Maine nor Kirksey are fixing that.

It's Hopkins. Doubly so because he would just cost a million for the rest of the year with nothing guaranteed after. Henry would cost 6.3 for the rest of the season. That's a lot for 10 games of a RB and we don't have it. Even after the Dion Dawkins restructure, we only have 5.2. Hopkins is doable. Henry not so much. We'd have to find more money somewhere to cover not only the difference in his contract, but more for emergencies along the way for the rest of the season. If we make another Dawkins like move, maybe. But until then, I wouldn't get my hopes up over Vegas Odds.