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Agreed. But if teams have absolutely zero fear of it from a multiple standpoint of both Josh not being great at it and no one getting open - things remain the same. They'll continue to crowd the line of scrimmage, key in on Cook, send Safeties, and make life incredibly difficult in the short to intermediate areas. Josh has to work on it. He may never be great at it. But if we can get someone with deep speed and separation, they have to at least respect it. Even if he only hits it once in a while.
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He has the dreaded McDermott "week to week". When his "day to day" often results in inactives (sometimes two weeks) and his "week to week" often results in being out as long as an IR (as seen recently with Ed Oliver) - i'd consider Palmer's at least a few more weeks. Especially with how bad it looked and it being an ankle on a guy who runs routes. I believe, had we not had a bye, they'd have probably IR'ed him. There's still an off chance they still could tomorrow. I think they hope with the Bye, he'll miss 2-3 weeks and IR wasn't necessary. But again, we've seen instances like Oliver in recent memory where "Week to Week" has meant 4 weeks down. It really boils down to what you consider long term. When it comes to McDermott, there's only 3 designations - "Day to Day", "Week to Week", and "IR". IR (especially) at this point is anywhere from done to *maybe* we'll get them back for the Playoffs. His week to week is long term to me.
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Max Hairston to return to practice from IR
BillsFanForever19 replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
He'll see the field. I never questioned that. But they aren't going to put a ton on his plate that first week. He'll be cycled in on a small number of plays. They'll ramp him up over the next couple weeks if he looks like he's taking to things well. But he's not moving Tre to the bench full time for a good number of weeks. -
Joe Marino's 9 point plan for improvement
BillsFanForever19 replied to D. L. Hot-Flamethrower's topic in The Stadium Wall
I agree with pretty much all of this. The only issue is Palmer is likely out for at least a few more weeks with the dreaded McDermott "week to week" and who knows what shape he'll be in when he returns. So leaning on him isn't an option for a while. -
It's actually, in part, more realistic than what I'm used to seeing from you throughout the years. Though 3 moves aren't happening. Palmer will be down for a number of weeks, but he hasn't been placed on IR. He'll be back at some point and we aren't going to carry 7 WR's. Olave is the only big fish with any sort of possibility. And our best bet if we can't get him is Shaheed. Basically, I'd be all in on making a deal with the Saints. Outside of that, you're looking at maybe a Jeudy or Meyers. Maybe. Lockett... idk. He'll be turning 33, works mainly out of the Slot these days, the Seahawks cut him, and then the Titans felt he not only wasn't a starter, but barely used him. He's not Tyler Lockett anymore. If they thought he still has something and could help, I wouldn't be opposed. But I don't think he's any different than a number of guys we have now at this stage in his career and don't think he'd help much. But I'm with you on trying hard to get Olave. If we can't pry him away from them, then pivot to Shaheed. And then hopefully Davis is ready soon. Have them replace Moore and Shavers on the 53 and hope that opens things up for us.
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It doesn't matter. They're 0-7. The season is over. Honestly, they'd be doing themselves a disservice by trying to win games. Just put Tyrod in and get to the finish line. My favorite streamer, Will Neff, is a Jets fan. So I hear a lot of Jets talk watching him. He has the right take. Sell off parts. Get as many picks as you can. Hope for the best pick you can get. Tear the whole thing down to the studs, save for a core of young cornerstones, and rebuild.
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Max Hairston to return to practice from IR
BillsFanForever19 replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
Certainly. Like I said, he'll be on a snap count the first week he plays, cycling in for White. He'll get more and more the following weeks, if it seems like he's comfortable and performing well. But the idea that "Tre needs to be watching the game from the sidelines" implies taking over for him full time. That's not going to happen immediately. We're 2-3 weeks out before he starts getting some in game reps and then probably another 2-3 weeks before they entrust him with starting over White, if that happens at all. Here's hoping though. -
Max Hairston to return to practice from IR
BillsFanForever19 replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
That's not going to happen for some time. They are almost certainly not going to activate him to play this week. The earliest I think you can hope for is next week against the Chiefs. Even then, it wouldn't surprise me if they used all 21 days in the Practice Window before they deemed him ready to see the field. And *even then*, they aren't just going to throw him in the fire and start him off the jump. The first week he'll be on a limited snap count, that will see a ramp up over the first few weeks, if things go swimmingly after getting his proverbial sea legs under him. Hairston putting White on the Sidelines won't happen until like Week 11 or Week 12 at the earliest. And only if he's taking to everything well. -
I mean, you don't have to open it at all. But then he just stays on IR. Even with Practice Window opening, it's not a guarantee he'll play. You could open the Practice Window, not like what you see, and decide to place him on Season Ending IR after opening the window. It's def possible that he sees the field for the Chiefs game. Zero chance he sees the field for the Panthers game. But I agree it's probably more likely that it's the third week. Hopefully it's sooner than later bc when he does play, they aren't going to just start him. He'll be on limited reps with a weekly ramp up depending on how he looks week to week. For those of us hoping he replaces White as full time Starter, I wouldn't expect it until like Week 11 or Week 12 at the absolute earliest.
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Ogunjobi is coming back at just the right time. With T.J. Sanders down, we need a 3T. I don't know that he'll be much of an upgrade from Sanders, but he could be. Hoecht will almost definitely provide more than Javon Solomon, maybe A.J. Epenesa (who has had a good season making plays rotationally). The problem though, is our Defensive woes are at LB, CB, and Safety. Joey Bosa's pass rushing efficiency is very, very good statistically. But the ball is out too quickly for him to get home as much as he should. So I don't think you're going to see too much of a difference from additions along the Defensive Line. I'd love to be wrong tho.
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It says right in that tweet that it was an LCL Sprain. A high ankle sprain can take over a month and then linger on WR's and CB's who are constantly running on it. This was a Knee. There was no indication on the severity of the Sprain. But considering they initially feared a torn ACL, it was probably a pretty rough Sprain. As for the 3-4 week window not being met, you see that all the time in the NFL. They're estimates. And generally best possible scenario estimates. The injury might have lingered longer than they expected. There might have been setbacks. Knee injuries are always going to be aired on the side of caution.
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Brady hasn't been perfect in play calling, far from it. But I think you're missing the point. Things like the constant line of scrimmage throws and frustrating end arounds to WR's that end up in fumbles or no gains are a result of realizing they can't get the ball downfield to WR's bc they can't separate or beat even single coverage. 15% on players and 60% on Brady is insane. You're making it seem like there's plays to be made in the passing game all over the place that they're just not going to.
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I mean, at this point, I wouldn't turn down anything that they think can help. But a 33 year old that these days works primarily out of the Slot? That's not where we need help. With Palmer down long term, Samuel consistently injured, Keon, Moore, and Shavers unable to create separation and beat single coverage - we really need a Boundary guy who can get open. If they think Lockett can live there in the shape he's in these days and get open, go for it. But his production and how he's been used by the Titans this season and the team he made his name for washing their hands of him doesn't exactly instill confidence in me that he'd be a big difference maker at his age.
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Huh? He had a rough LCL injury. We were lucky it wasn't a tear or an ACL. But that's still going to take a few months to be 100%. He absolutely hasn't been practicing with the team. He legally wasn't allowed to take part in sessions on IR. You saw him working with trainers and rehabbing. There was no benching "or pulling him". He simply was injured. And they weren't going to put him back on the Practice field until they were completely sure he was 100% As for why they aren't just going to throw him on the field, he's a Rookie who's never played a down in the NFL, missed over half of Training Camp, and all of the Pre-Season. He needs at least a couple weeks of practice working with the Defense before they just throw him on the field.
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As I stated to you (albeit quite wordy), the Defensive scheme is exposed. Teams have the answer key for McDermott's "exotic" scheme now. It happens with every longtime Defensive guru. Eventually, unless you're a multiple Defense, which we aren't - even the best schemes get broken. So we can add talent, but it's still not going to change the fact that everyone knows when and where the holes in the zone are. Adding talent helps and we'll be adding talent between guys coming off suspension, Hairston coming off IR, and guys coming off injury. If we have the chance to add more, sure. But a new CB2 or Safety isn't going to magically fix the main problem. But, yes, the problem on Offense isn't the coaching or the scheme. At times the playcalling is frustrating, but that's not what's holding us back. It's that bc of the WR's we have (especially now with Palmer down) - we're one dimensional. We have a great Running game, but absolutely no Pass offense. So teams can just load the box and play man and we're f-cked. Unless we have someone they can fear, the run game isn't opening back up and we won't be able to keep up.
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Our best, slightly realistic, hope is that Beane is able to pry away Chris Olave from the Saints. Then, hopefully, Gabe Davis is getting close. The two of them then replace two thirds of Elijah Moore, Tyrell Shavers, and Curtis Samuel's roster spots on the 53. Options like A.J. Brown, Jaylen Waddle, and Garrett Wilson aren't real options. The first being unavailable outside of Fantasy and the latter two no way being traded to us if they are available. Outside of Olave, I think we're looking at Jakobi Meyers, Rashid Shaheed (for his deep threat ability), Calvin Ridley, or Jerry Jeudy as the only options with a sliding scale of possibility. Olave to me is the lone realistic big fish. But any of them would at least be upgrades over what we have. Although I fear Beane, with the hardcore stance he took this off-season about WR, won't do anything beyond bring up Gabe when he's healthy bc he'd have to admit he was wrong. I hope I'm wrong tho. Said it once, I'll say it a million times, two weeks before the deadline - everyone's going to publicly say that the players who's names are being floated out there in the press are "unavailable". That doesn't mean that all of them really are. It means some of them are playing the game and hoping someone will throw a bigger offer at them to "change their mind". A lot of them really aren't. Specifically A.J. Brown. But there's no way there won't be a single WR moved at the Trade Deadline, regardless of what they're all saying now.
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That's always the case at this point. The Trade Deadine isn't for over two weeks. Every team is going to say "we don't want to trade (so and so)" right now. Even if they do, they're going to say that in an attempt to get teams to offer more. That said, obviously there are teams who are telling the truth when they say that about certain players. But there is definitely a team or two that is putting that out there as posturing to get better compensation from desperate teams. As in, what exactly? If you're alleging that it's unlikely we make a move, i'd agree that it's more likely we don't than we will. Doesn't mean it's not the right decision to make one, if you can.
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That's just the reality of the situation though. McDermott's Defense has been figured out. Improving talent in a couple spots can't hurt. But when the blueprint on how to beat his scheme is out, the opposing team is going to score a lot of points regardless. It just is what it is this season. We're stuck with McDermott and his broken Defense for at least this year. The only path to victory is a stronger Offense that can overcome it.
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Again though, we know they *want* to extend him. But we don't know if Olave is being receptive to those overtures. If he has been, he isn't going anywhere. But if he's not interested, then they have the rest of this season which is already lost and next season, which will be Year 1 of a rebuild under a new QB. It's more valuable to get picks for the rebuild in that situation than have him for the next year and a half of turmoil. Even if he isn't being receptive, they could still theoretically dig in their heels, keep him, and Franchise him after 2026. But I think most GM's would look at the situation and say it's better to move on now. Especially if the compensation is very good. All that said, Olave isn't the only WR on the Saints that could help us. If they don't want to move Olave, Rashid Shaheed's speed and Deep threat ability would also serve to help open things up for us. If you can't pry Olave away, pivot to Shaheed.
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Bc there's not a lot that can be done to change that. Even if we got a CB2 and a Safety (or two) that were upgrades - the blueprint on how to beat McDermott's Zone Defense is on the desk of every Offensive Coordinator at this point. As soon as our initial coverage drops a guy for the next level man, get the ball out. Immediate completion, even if it's played perfectly - which it almost never is. Also when it comes to Defense, we have guys like Hoecht and Ogunjobi coming in next week. Hairston will be having his Practice Window opened up soon. Milano and Bernard will be returning from injury. So we have reinforcements on the way already. But again, it doesn't matter much when the league has diagnosed McDermott's scheme after over a decade of the same looks in the league. We're clearly in Rex Ryan territory with McDermott, wherein we have a once Defensive guru who's Defense has been figured out and they're incapable or unwilling to change. On top of that, even the league's best built Defenses don't stop the league's most high powered Offenses. This is why so many of us disagreed with going all in on Defense this off-season thinking that alone would get us over the hump. You can build an amazing Defense. But if you don't have Offensive Playmakers who can separate for your QB, you're going to get outscored. And just as the blueprint on how to topple McDermott's Defense is out there, so is the blueprint to stop our Offense. The first few weeks, teams respected our passing game more. This allowed Cook to run wild. Now teams know, Coleman hasn't taken a step. Palmer (who's also now down long term) isn't getting open enough. Shakir, while elite in YAC and shiftiness, also has difficulties separating beyond the line of scrimmage (which is why you see him get so many screens). And underneath them, the separation issue is even worse. So now teams know - we want to beat you with Cook. So key in on him, play man on our pass catchers, and force Josh to beat us by going to guys who can't beat single coverage. If we can have one guy they fear, then that opens things up for other guys. And the Pass Game will open the Run Game back up. Getting a guy at WR1 is more impactful than anything we can do on Defense. But I also don't think anyone is suggesting we shouldn't try and also get a CB or Safety as well.
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Brown was never available. On top of the Eagles being a 5-2 team that isn't looking to sell parts (like the Saints). On top of them saying they aren't interested in moving him. They'd take on over 45m in Dead Cap moving him, after signing him to a 96m deal just last season. As for Olave's showing, the Saints are 1-6. Him looking great today doesn't make him less likely to move. It all boils down to whether or not he's interested in being a Saint or not after 2026. Reportedly, they want to extend him. If he's open to that, he's not going anywhere. If he's telling them he wants to go to Free Agency after Year 5 and is rebuffing their overtures, then they'd be dumb not to move him now.
