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Could be another reason they're doing it. They could be trying to coach those instincts out of him.

One thing I've noticed between going to camp and reading the reports - it seems to me that they're trying to force Keon Coleman to be more physical and deal with physicality better. When I was there and reading what people have been saying for all of the practices I haven't, the DB's seem to be WAY more physical with Keon than anyone else. To the point where it would draw a flag (on Monday for example, Josh made the flag motion on a route drill throw to him). Then the next set of WR's would come up and it would be standard coverage. Then Keon would come up again and again, hands all over him. I don't think this is coincidental. I think the coaches put an edict to make things difficult on him to toughen him up.

Incorrect. Dorian Strong is #43. Dane Jackson is #23.

You kind of said it yourself, "if he can play 1T". With how much we rotate, I don't think trading up in Round 2 means he has to start in Year 1 or Year 2. Especially given the plan being to move him around the interior line. Beane called him a 3T that can be slid over in certain situations (most likely obvious passing downs). That doesn't exactly scream to me the eventual full time replacement for Jones at 1T. And again, he doesn't have to be that to make an impact. If he's the first guy up shifting in for Oliver at 3T and he's occasionally coming in to blitz from the 1T on passing downs, replacing Jones or eventually Walker (who I see as the true heir apparent to Jones for 1st and 2nd downs) - he's going to potentially get as many snaps as one of the starters. And if he's as good as advertised, that's well worth the 41st pick in the Draft, even if he isn't technically a Starter. If he is to be a Starter one day, I think it's more likely he makes Oliver expendable in a couple years at 3T than it is he becomes the 1T Starter.

I remember telling posters when he was doing well in Indianapolis in Taylor's stead it was only because the Indianapolis O-Line was stacked for Run Blocking and the Offense was schemed towards the Running game. This solidifies that.

May not mean anything, but Hairston posted "Beyond blessed 🙏 Thank you God" a minute ago on his Instagram.

That's wishful thinking. There have been many instances where a guy is looked at on the field and walks off or is helped off without a cart that ended up being a Torn ACL. As I said before in the other post, Reggie Ragland tore his ACL as a Rookie. No cart even going to the Locker Room. They looked at Von Miller on the field and allowed him to walk to the sidelines. Torn ACL. And that's just off the top of my head relating to just this team. Do I think it's definitively a Torn ACL? No, I like everyone else am hoping for the best. But do I think the fact that they didn't immediately bring out a cart means it isn't? Absolutely not. I'm not taking much stock in that, given so many instances of that not happening and it still being a Torn ACL.

I definitely agree with you on that. Like I said, i've been very vocal that I think he's toast. But I think less of what I would do and more of what I think they would do in situations like these. And if Hairston is lost for the year and they decide they want more than what they have underneath Benford and Tre as the next guy up on the Outside, I see them turning to Douglas. Whether you, me, or anyone else would want someone else.

But if something happens to White (which given his history here over his last couple years isn't a crazy thought), White isn't cutting it, or Benford goes down - are you (or more importantly, them) comfortable with Dorian Strong, Dane Jackson, or Ja'Marcus Ingram starting? One of those guys being on the bottom of the roster with Benford, Hairston, and White in front of them was fine. But if we're only one step from starting that person instead of two - I think we need to get someone else in here. I'd definitely prefer someone besides Douglas. But realistically knowing how this regime values familiarity in scheme over all else, if someone's coming in to take Hairston's place on the roster - it's going to be Douglas.

On this team alone, Reggie Ragland walked to the locker room in Training Camp after tearing his ACL. Von Miller got up and walked to the sidelines after tearing his ACL.

If long term, I'd be surprised if Rasul Douglas isn't brought back. He wouldn't be my choice as I've been pretty vocal that I think he's toast. But this regime will always go for familiarity in McDermott's scheme over quality of player. I hope White has a resurgence with us and can stay healthy. But relying on that is a dangerous proposition imo. So I think someone else stronger than a 6th Round Rookie, Dane Jackson, and Ja'Marcus Ingram would need to be brought in.

We're deep as far as the quality for the back end of a roster goes. But I was really hoping Hairston would step up. As in 2025, starting Tre White (regardless of how he's looked in camp reps), Dane Jackson, Dorian Strong, or Ja'Marcus Ingram doesn't exactly instill confidence in the position for me.

Was just about to say the same thing. The "walked off the field" means little to nothing. Many, many instances lately where players walk off the field just to be later diagnosed with a Torn ACL. That's not to say definitively that's what's going on here. Just to say the "good news is he walked off the field" narrative isn't worth much at all.

Nothing is long term on any of the WR's. Which is why they signed Deon Cain and tried out Justyn Ross. They just need some bodies to get through a little bit of time in Training Camp, so they aren't overworking the WR's they have. Gabe Davis isn't someone you bring in for that and he wouldn't sign on for that role.

Mostly playing in a system that didn't fit his strengths in LA. Also coming off of the Torn Achilles. Douglas, had no excuses. This isn't to say White is going to be great this year. And clearly Hairston is the not so distant future of the position (maybe even as soon as Week 1). But if it's Tre coming back to a system he flourished in a full year removed from all injuries or Douglas who seemingly hit the wall, i'll take my chances with White.

My prediction? Boundary CB: Christian Benford Maxwell Hairston Tre'Davious White Dorian Strong Nickel: Taron Johnson Safety: Taylor Rapp Cole Bishop Damar Hamlin Nickel/Safety Hybrid: Jordan Hancock Cam Lewis "CB" (Really just a ST Returner): Brandon Codrington I could see a scenario where Laviska Shenault beats out Codrington, in which case he'd be carried as an extra "WR' instead. I could also see a scenario where Jordan Hancock looks ahead of schedule, in which case Cam Lewis is released and i'd imagine Ja'Marcus Ingram is kept (as I imagine they'd not want to cut both from Special Teams).

Did he? Rasul Douglas allowed a 122.1 passer rate last season on balls thrown his direction. Given the opportunity, there was all the reason in the world to not re-sign him and try their luck with White and Jackson and Draft Hairston in the 1st... and Strong in the 6th. Douglas hit the wall with us and it wasn't even injury related.

The reason we cut Tre last season was because we were 41+m over the cap and had Benford and Douglas (who hadn't hit the wall yet) and we could save 10+m by letting him go.

Dude was toast last season. There's a reason he's still floating out there right now and a reason why we moved on.

Cliff notes?

So you're saying he should only play 3rd Downs and only in the 4th Quarter? I understand being nervous about him being injured as a fan. But if that's all he's being used for, he should have never been signed. I agree with you on load management and not asking him to do too much. But that's too far.

Said it once, i've said it a million times, Ladd McConkey is not the type of WR we were in the market for. Especially in this conversation where we're talking about the different roles of WR's, McConkey shouldn't be compared. It's like complaining about a Nickel CB being better than the Boundary CB we drafted. In Shakir, Kincaid, and Samuel - we had the role McConkey would be playing on this team more than covered. Drafting McConkey would have just served to take those players off the field and done nothing to replace Diggs and Davis on the Outside.

The fact that he signed Palmer and Moore says that he needed to replace Cooper and Hollins' spots on the roster. Shenault is a camp body that may or may not make the roster as a Kick Returner over Codrington. None of those signings were to push Coleman off the roster. At most, they'll take on some of his reps on top of their regular load if Coleman doesn't look good in Year 2. He may or may not be sold on him yet. But he's entering just Year 2 after spending the 33rd pick in the Draft on him. He's going to be given this year and probably next year as well to see how he develops. He's not going anywhere this year. You don't give up on an investment like that after just 1 season, regardless of how he looks in Training Camp this year.

That's also not happening.