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The real Joe Marino doesn't like it.

Why? When the season starts and if he's here Week 1, why wouldn't we use him the exact same way we used him last year? James Cook carried us through the Ravens game and kept us alive in the second half of the Chiefs game in the Playoffs. He's our best Running Back. Whatever happens after the season happens. There's a good chance he won't be here. But while we have him and while he's trying to get paid, you use him as much as you can. You don't bite off your nose to spite your face. What you're suggesting is emotional fan nonsense. You'll get close to nothing on return. RB's get little in return. Players on the last year of their deal get little in return. Players who are publicly asking for top market value get little in return. And on top of all those boxes being checked, as you said, it's a strong RB class. So teams are more likely to just pick a guy that they'll have cheap for 4 seasons. For what we'd get in return, it's worth more to have him playing for us in the Playoffs this year. Worry about re-signing him or replacing him next offseason.

I think DL is a much greater need than Safety. Specifically 1T. Daquan Jones shouldn't be on the team period imo. And right now, we have a grand total of 3 on the roster for Week 1 (Oliver, Jones, and Carter) and no one to even rotate Jones with. Who shouldn't be starting anymore. I think the replacement for Rapp next year is already on the roster in the form of Bishop - who I'd expect may even start over Hamlin this season (though I think he's more naturally suited for Rapp's spot). Forrest may also be a diamond in the rough signing that I could see doing well here and being brought next season. On top of those 4, there's also Cam Lewis, who we also play at Safety (while also serving as an emergency CB). Right now, we have every Safety we had on the Roster last season, plus Forrest. I also disagree with LB before WR. While I could see them wanting to upgrade from Buffalo Joe, like Safety, between Milano, Bernard, Williams, Olofoshio, Andreesen, and Spector - we have a full stack and everyone from last season returning. And no one beyond Andreesen or Spector will be released and good chance we only keep 5. WR, however, we're still missing one. We lost Hollins and Cooper and just brought in Palmer (Shenault is a camp body). Palmer *could* become more with Josh. But to date, he hasn't shown to be a big difference maker. Right now, I see us basically being in the same position we were last season when we had to make a Trade bc it wasn't enough. We're 100% Drafting at least 1 WR and with the core being underwhelming, it may be in the first 3 picks. I also agree with @GunnerBill that this won't be the year we Draft a RB. If we do, it would be one of our last picks just to bring to Camp and maybe stash on the PS. Between Cook, Davis, and Johnson all guaranteed to be here - there's no room on the 53. Another position I could see is Drafting late on Day 3 is a Punter. With Camarda and now Robbins, they may be set. But I could see a scenario where if there was a guy they liked, they'd take him and cut one of those guys. Neither guy is a lock.

If it's true that he's anywhere *near* Jermaine Burton territory, he won't be a Buffalo Bill. And I'd expect him to fall to Day 3. Bond was looked at as a mid to late 2nd Round Prospect without any character concerns. Burton fell to one of the last picks on Day 2 and was a better on field prospect than Bond. I hope that isn't true because I saw him as a good fit both for what he'd bring and where i'd expect him to be Drafted.

You seem to have this hyper fixation with IDL since the Super Bowl. Like ALL of our focus needs to go there bc that's how Phili conquered KC. It's true, we have to do work there. With us only having Ed Oliver, Daquan Jones (who I've gone on record multiple times to say that he should not only not be starting, but maybe not on the team at all), and Dewayne Carter on the roster at the start of the league year - it wasn't even an upgrade thing, it was a neccessity. But the idea that alone is what's going to transform this defense is inaccurate. Yes, the Eagles DL ate. But there were multiple other factors that allowed that. First and foremost, was Phili's wonderfully built secondary and scheme. They completely neutralized KC's ability to get the ball out quickly. This allowed the Line to tee off. Next was a high powered, star studded offense that scored quickly and at will. This not only made the game out of reach quickly, but made KC a one dimensional passing offense to try and keep up. Allowing the DL to tee off further. Yes, we need to get DL help. But we also need Secondary help and offensive firepower help. If we were to put all our focus on the DL, then Mahomes would simply be able to do what he's always done against us. Which is getting the ball out quickly, targeting the side of the field that has Dane Jackson or a Day 3 Rookie (as most of your mocks have us doing) as well as beyond that where we have some uninspiring combination of Rapp, Hamlin, Bishop, and Forrest. If you load up on DL alone and leave the rest of the Secondary outside of Benford with subpar to average at best defenders - that DL is not going to be able to do what Phili did. And if you roll out the same Offensive Firepower (minus Cooper and Hollins, plus Palmer), then we're also hard pressed to do what Phili did, which is put the score out of hand quickly. Without them becoming one dimensional, our DL won't be able to become one dimensional like Phili's did either. All this to say, we need at least one (if not two) of those first 3 picks in the first 2 Rounds to be something other than DL. Especially when 3 of the 4 bigger signings we made this offseason were already focused on the DL. DL alone didn't make that Super Bowl what it was.

It's interesting that he's bringing in multiple Drafted young Punter's. Sometimes it takes Punters years before they get it down. And both these guys were given up on fairly quickly. I like the approach. If there was enough talent there in College to get Drafted when the vast majority of Punters go Undrafted and they're that young and given up on under questionable circumstances - you may hit on something. I had thought with Camarda being the only Punter on the roster that we may Draft another with one of our later Day 3 Picks. Maybe they still do and the first leg of the competition is Mini Camp. Between 2-3 Drafted level Punter's, you're probably going to land on one that's good.

That last line is why the Bills signing Asante Samuel Jr. is unlikely.

If you think he can play 1T, sure. But if he's strictly a 3T, then we'd be looking at: 3T: Oliver Harmon Ogunjobi Carter 1T: Jones I don't see them looking to "upgrade Ed Oliver" with our 1st Round Pick. Oliver isn't going anywhere this year and they aren't going to make him the backup. I think with Ogunjobi's suspension and Carter having an unimpressive Rookie season, Drafting a 3T is fine. Round 1 to rotate with Oliver when we have multiple starting needs elsewhere though? I don't see it. Imo - Jones shouldn't even be on this team. Let alone starting. Right now, not only is he starting, we have no one to rotate him with. I had hoped Ogunjobi might be used primarily as a 1T on this team, as he did play Nose in Cleveland - but it appears that's not how they view him.

Unfortunately, Matthew Golden is expected to go well before we pick. Maybe he falls a bit and we could trade up. But with all the other holes we have (mainly CB and DT) and the lack of options left in the veteran market to replace them - I don't know that we can afford to give up what it would take to move up for a WR.

He's a 2nd Round Prospect. Might even be on the board when we pick at 56 or even 62. If there were any trade up for him, it would be in the 2nd. And I don't think people would lose their mind if they moved up a smidge in the 2nd to Draft a WR. It's possible. People often see extensive work done on a prospect and think "wow they must really like him". When it's just as likely it's because the prospect is a tricky evaluation or the decision makers have differing opinions on the guy. There's been tons of prospects over the years we've met with a bunch of times and then passed on them every chance they had. We met with Troy Franklin a ton last year too.

How do you figure? You take a need at 30. In the case of this discussion, let's say it's DT over CB. And let's say the board is falling in a way that 56 is just a tad low for CB. Well, you could trade 56 and 109 in Round 4 and move up 10 picks to 46. And you'd still have 62 in Round 2 and 132 in Round 4 as well. We have 7 picks on Day 3 and 10 picks in total. 10 players aren't making this roster. You can move up in Round 2 without sacrificing the other pick.

I haven't dove into the Draft as much as other years. I'm a little behind right now. But this mirrors what i've heard, which is if you don't go CB at 30 - it's likely that at 56 you're just going to miss out on a quality 2nd Round pick at the position. I agree that from what i've seen, if we go DL at 30, we should be looking to move up a little bit from 56 to address CB. And thankfully, we have the capital to do that.

I said it in another post, all the DL in the world won't help pass defense if you're rolling out a Day 3 Talent or Jackson opposite Benford with Rapp and Bishop behind them. Just like last year, that ball is going to come out quick and negate pass rush. We might already be in that position now. Relying on a Rookie is not a great spot. But if that's what we're doing, we have to get the one with the highest talent level possible to us. Like I said in my last post, that doesn't mean pigeon hole a 1st Rounder. If the board falls in a way that the Best Available Talent is at another position of need, go there. But you can't wait until the end of Round 4 to address that hole. Going all in on one area of need and neglecting another is a mistake. Both spots need to be addressed with help and with 3 picks in the first two Rounds, can and should be done.

Meaning what? Bc Elam was a bust the one time Beane drafted a CB in the 1st that means every 1st Round level talent CB prospect from here on out is destined to bust? You're making Elam and Benford absolutes for what happens when you Draft a CB in their prospective rounds. That's not how the Draft works. And it's literally the opposite of what is more likely. For the record, I'm not trying to pigeon hole a 1st Round Pick at CB. If the value isn't there, pick somewhere else. But IMO they can't wait until the end of Round 4 to address the position with what's on the roster and who's left on the veteran market. With the way things are, you need to walk away with a guy by the Pick 62 at the latest.

Benford is the exception - not the rule. The idea that you're going to get a Christian Benford with every CB you take in Day 3 is foolish.