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2024 honestly hasn't shaped up to be a great class for a lot of teams. Especially those outside the Top 25 picks or so. It was considered to be an all time WR class. But that was more about the guys at the top and the sheer volume. Outside of the top 4 guys - most WR's that followed have been a disappointment thus far. This tweet kind of puts things into perspective on how we're not alone with having a disappointing 2024 class: If you take a look at the selections, hits are few and far between after Round 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_NFL_draft

I actually forgot that Shavers was signed in 2023. I was originally going to say this doesn't make a lot of sense bc all the examples you used were one in which a player selected at a later point in the same Draft superceded another at the same position Drafted earlier. And that didn't really fit bc Shavers wasn't Drafted at all. Add in the fact that they weren't even in the same class and the comparison doesn't really work at all.

We don't have to worry about that until 2027. He's already under contract for next year.

This is, again, a very long list. Here's hoping most of the ELEVEN Limited's can get a Full in. If we have too many guys out, we may be in a situation where we can't afford to activate Gabe Davis over a healthy Keon Coleman - as we'll need both spots for bodies we're missing.

Huh? I get people like Shavers, his work ethic, and are disappointed in Coleman. There's good will towards Shavers and not towards Coleman right now. I get that. But let's not rewrite history... Shavers had a single catch all last year from Mitch Trubisky in Garbage time. It was a cool TD when the other team had given up. But that's the grand total of his contributions prior in "the last two years". And up until Sunday, while being active for all 9 games prior just like Coleman, he had a grand total of 7 catches for 81 yards in all 9 games *combined*. Even as disappointing as Coleman has been this year, Shavers was even more invisible. And Shavers performance was good. But it wasn't better than Coleman's Week 1. Right now, Shavers is the better option bc he's going about the work the right way and isn't missing meetings. And it was a good outing this week. But saying he's been the "much, much better player than Coleman" is completely inaccurate. I don't want to make it seem like I'm sh-tting on Shavers. Again, it was a solid performance. But people need to relax. It was one solid performance in 10 games. Before that game he showed to be a solid blocker a decent Special Teams player, but a guy who wasn't getting open or making plays when he was on the field. Hopefully, he can build off of the Tampa game. But saying he could be the Stevie Johnson to Keon Coleman's James Hardy, talking about him in the same breath as Kyle Williams and Christian Benford at other positions, and other posters comparing him to Hall of Famers... it's out of control. Take a breath - it was 1 game in 10. We need to see a lot more before we can be saying things like that. Right now, until he shows more, the more apt comparison is Robert Foster. And Robert Foster showed more than Shavers in quicker fashion.

Thank you. Between how Hardman did on our opening return and how Davis did after when they kicked away from him - that was more incredibly poor Special Teams coverage than it was Ray Davis being some kind of elite return man.

Theoretically, I believe he could. But it would be kind of unheard of for a player to turn down active roster money for a Practice Squad paycheck. Especially since he can only be activated 2 more times over the next 7 games. So he'd have to be willing to potentially only play 2 games over the next 7 and be paid Practice Squad money for 5 of those weeks versus guaranteed active roster money the rest of the way. Ultimately, we need him the rest of the way and I don't think they'd put him in a position to turn down more guaranteed money for less from us. I'm pretty sure that they'd just put him on the roster right away if someone tried to sign him, as that would be the right thing to do.

Mecole won't be cut. There's video of him limping after the fumble, showing his sitting after the turnover wasn't a punishment: In McDermott's Post Game presser, he praised both Hardman for the 61 yard return at the beginning of the game and Beane for signing him. So he seemed pleased with what he saw from him, the fumble and drop withstanding: If he felt he performed so poorly that he needed to be cut, I have to imagine he would have focused not on the positive, but the negative. And ultimately, as others have said, one bad play and a drop in his first ever game since being signed to the active roster and playing less than a week removed from being on the couch, isn't enough to wash their hands of them. That said, he was a DNP at Practice today. So it's possible the calf injury may have him on the shelf this week.

They may have their hand forced before they get the chance to use all the call ups. Lots of teams need WR's and more teams would like to F the Bills over. Now that he's proven he's healthy, someone may try and poach him. Only way to block that is to sign him ourselves.

Yeah, I was a little surprised to see him signed so quickly. But it's pretty clear that the plan was to make him their new Return man, which is why he was signed and Codrington was cut.

Exactly. He made the most of increased reps today and he did surprise me. I have been pretty outspoken about my thoughts on him to this point, which were not good. And while I was pleasantly surprised today, we were going up against the 24th ranked Pass Defense that notoriously plays their Safeties low, often to a detriment. All that said, he did show something though. Which is a lot more than I can say for Keon Coleman and Elijah Moore this season (outside of Coleman's game Week 1).

Rodgers broke his wrist in his non throwing hand. He's been telling people he won't be out long. Josh broke his wrist in his non throwing hand last season and didn't miss a game. And on Joe Burrow:

This didn't change my perception that this isn't a Super Bowl team one iota. It's always fun to get a win. But this was a Tampa Bay team that lost their WR1 in Mike Evans a month ago. Today they were also down Chris Godwin, as well as their star RB Bucky Irving. And they still ran for over 200 yards with an Undrafted Syracuse RB. They still gave up 32 points to a team that beat up. While it was certainly encouraging to see the passing game look better than it has since Week 1 with Gabe Davis interjected, Josh Palmer returning from injury, and Tyrell Shavers getting a bigger role - it's important to know that the Buccaneers have the leagues 24th ranked Pass Defense. They also play their Safeties pretty low, which offers more opportunities deep (as Gabe pointed out Post Game). Long story short, it was good to get the win. But I don't consider the Buccaneers, especially the team they were fielding today, to be a Super Bowl contending team. And it was a battle until the very end. Though I'd love to be wrong, I still don't believe this team is built to actually defeat the leagues best, at their best.

I hear this all the time and I tend to think it's overblown. Josh is the kind of guy to always say the right thing. This time however, the right thing in the moment has come back to bite him in the butt. It's my belief that the famous "you were the guy I wanted" line would have been said to any WR we took. It's like Beane always saying that they got "their guy" every single year. Or that whomever they Drafted was "the last guy we had a 1st Round Grade on". If Josh was truly pounding the table for Keon and Keon alone, they wouldn't have risked missing out on him by trading down not once, but twice to teams they knew were selecting Wide Receivers. 3 teams (Kansas City, San Francisco, and Carolina) selected WR's between when we went on the clock at 28 and selected Coleman at 33. I simply cannot believe that if Coleman was THE one that they'd have risked it. I believe the reality is that Beane felt that after MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, and BTJ that there wasn't much separating guys like Worthy, Legette, and Coleman (as we were looking at Outside guys only) and so long as one of them was still available, he'd keep stockpiling assets. That Josh prob liked all of them for different reasons and/or didn't actually have a dog in the fight and the line he's being killed for since then was just public relations lip service, hyping up "our guy" - as the team always does.

I couldn't disagree with this more. 300 years from now they'll have all the audio, video, and literature documentation of 20th century music and beyond. *Much*, much more than we have of musicians from 300 years past. Perhaps only the vast majority of casual music listeners or people who don't really listen to music will know of only those acts. But I'd venture to say the contributions of many more musicians than just those will be known by far more people than you think. And especially historians.