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This feels like a shot at Darius Slay and/or Drew Rosenhaus, by Darnell Savage's agent 😂

There absolutely is a reason to keep him on the list besides spite... When you claim a player on waivers, you take on the contract of the team that waived him (in this case, the Steelers). Had Slay not been claimed, he would then become a Free Agent and that contract would remain on the Steelers books. But since we claimed him, The Steelers are now free and clear of contractual obligations. It works the same way for us. If we waive him and he goes unclaimed, we are stuck paying him the remainder of that contract for the rest of the year. Considering the Bills and the Eagles were the only teams to put in a claim originally before all this mess - there's no way any team claims him if we waive him. Every other team in the league knows he won't report to any team but the Eagles (and weren't interested before all this, so why would they be now?). And bc of that, the Eagles know that they don't need to put in a claim. They can just sign him and pay week to week vet minimum, after he undoubtedly clears waivers. If we cut him, we would be stuck still paying for him for the rest of the season. Literally the only way to prevent that is to put him on that list and keep him there, unless he reports. Also, by putting him on that list and keeping him there, we could recoup a 5 game prorated amount from his 8.9m signing bonus. So not only could we not have to pay the contract we're currently on the hook for, we could stand to make money out of him being on that list, that we could then use to pay for other players. So we'd actually stand to gain something out of this mess. Long story short, this is the only move. It's not just spite. We'd actually be pretty stupid to waive him. Even if Howie Roseman called Brandon and swore he'd claim him, thus clearing of us financial obligation - we'd have to do it on blind faith that he'd stay true to his word when he doesn't have to.

I feel like we get one of these a day just with different worded titles. At this rate there should just a be a "B word about Brandon Beane and/or Sean McDermott here" pinned thread.

Take back some of Slay's signing bonus (which they can do since he didn't report - even though Washington paid it, we own the contract now) and pay Gilmore. Or if Slay doesn't want to pay it back, than he has to report.

He's a Safety? That's a confusing move. We lose Ja'Marcus Ingram and are now down to just 3 Boundary CB's, and are one injury away from Dane Jackson - and they fill that spot with a player at a different position. Odd. Glad to see that they put Slay on the "Did Not Report" list. Let him rot there. I kinda hope they go after his bonus money too (and they can).

The problem there is that when you claim a player on Waivers - you take on the responsibility of the contract signed by the team that waived them. So if we just waived him ourselves and he went unclaimed - that contract stays on our books. So we'd be taking on his contract for the year and have lost Ingram for nothing. And it's likely he would go unclaimed. As just us and the Eagles claimed him. Now teams know he won't play for anyone but the Eagles - including the Eagles. So why would they put in another claim and take the responsibility of the contract off our hands when they don't have to? The move is simple. He plays for us or we put him on the "Did Not Report" list. With that, not only are we off the hook for his contract - we could even look to recoup some of his signing bonus if we wanted to. I don't see how putting him on the "Did Not Report" list would hurt our reputation or why we should hurt ourselves further than we already have to help out someone who screwed us over.

Like a lot of your posts - this is an overly optimistic report on what we both just watched. It's pretty clear to me after watching that interview that he simply doesn't want to come here. And he thinks he has hands to play, as evidenced by him saying things like "we'll keep working at this". You left out the part where he talked and laughed about the cold and the snow here being "different" in Buffalo. And that his wife carries a lot of weight when it comes to these things and that he came to this decision after "discussing it with his family". His wife clearly said "hell no!". Then there was his reaction to "would you have shown up if the Eagles claimed you?" - which was a smile, laugh, and a "we'll see" (as if he still thinks he could end up there). He seems to think he can dictate where he wants to go. Thems ain't the rules! This whole "I didn't want to pack up and move" doesn't track. He was going to have to do that for whomever claimed him. If he's comfortable where he is and didn't want to pack up and leave - why did he ask for his release instead of just retiring? I hope Brandon Beane tells him "you play for us or we put you on the "Did Not Report" list and you play nowhere". We lost Ingram over this. If we waive him and he goes unclaimed, pretty sure we're on the hook for the rest of his deal with Pittsburgh. Nah - this is bullsh-t. He says he's comfy at home and enjoying his time with his family? I hope that's the case. Bc if I'm Beane, I'd be damned if he plays anywhere other than Buffalo this season.

And if a WR1 or a DE became available, we'd be in on that too. But the best WR available lately was Brandin Cooks and we got him too. If you have a chance to upgrade anywhere at this point in the season, you do it. Slay is an upgrade over Ingram and puts us in a much safer position if we take an injury at CB.

Worthy might not be nowhere like Coleman is - but he's looked at as a Bust by fans. Even Reid hasn't been complimentary of him: Literally the only people who talk about him as anything special are Bills fans who still complain about trading him to the Chiefs.

Gotcha. Usually the complaint is the opposite. If you're in the Game Thread, everytime the screen pass is thrown to Shakir - people lose their minds. So I just assumed that was the complaint. And I totally agree with you. As annoying as it is to see that go nowhere, it's really a necessity bc if we're just relying on forward passes to Shakir, he's almost never getting the ball. Him winning his assignment against the opponents best DB's is an even more dangerous and low percentage play than the screens. Refreshing to see another poster recognize that instead of freaking out and posting about how they're sick of seeing it.

Then we have to hope that Palmer also gets healthy and stays healthy. Bc when it comes to Coleman and Shavers beating their man, I'm less than 40/60 on them. I don't know that I'm much higher than 40/60 with Palmer either. By "forward passes to Shakir" - I'm assuming you mean the screens? In a vacuum, I get that. They're low percentage plays. But that kind of goes back to what I was saying about being hopeful that Cooks can exceed expectations... Right now, in large part bc the depth chart is so atrocious, Shakir is the focal point of opposing teams coverage. He's treated like a #1. And as good of a Slot as he is and as elusive as he is, he's not a #1. He's not going to beat guys like Jalen Ramsey, who was on him last week. And he's certainly not going to beat double coverage. So that play is run almost out of necessity. As it's the only way to get him touches with any sort of consistency. As he can't get open. Sadly, a low percentage play like that is still a higher percentage than expecting him to get open. My hope is that Kincaid and Cooks can roll some attention away from him and allow him more opportunities. Bc right now, he's pretty much neutralized by the opposition with little to no help around him.

Shavers will be here at least through 2026 (as he's under contract through next year) and will get a jersey every week as a bottom of the depth chart WR for his blocking and Special Teams alone. He really doesn't provide much as a WR (the Tampa Bay game had more to do with them having a *terrible* Pass D) - but he does what you want out of a 5th WR. Which is play Teams and Block your tail off.

We already have the answer to that. We've seen what happens. It doesn't matter if it's a good team or a team like the Falcons or the Dolphins. If the run is shut down early and/or a team gets the lead on us and we need to pass the ball to stay in the game - it's Game Over. The only hope we have (and it's not a likely one) is that Dalton Kincaid comes back 100% and stays healthy, Brandin Cooks is able to turn the clock back and play his best ball in years (or at least draw attention away from Davis and Shakir), Brady is able to call better games, and we develop at least an adequate passing attack with Kincaid, Shakir, Cooks, and Davis down the stretch. As it stands right now and has been the case for the past 8 weeks, where we've gone 4-4 - if we can win the line of scrimmage and Cook goes off, even when they're scheming to stop it, we're in decent shape. But that's not going to happen on a week to week basis and especially not against the best teams in Football playing their best. If we continue playing the way that we play and aren't able to develop some kind of passing attack, we're going nowhere fast. And *any* team, whether they're the best or worst team in the league, can beat us simply by playing good Run Defense.

I'll be surprised if anyone but Joey Bosa and Shaq Thompson get votes

It's okay to be a Run First team.... It's not okay to be a Run ONLY team.