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You're right, and thats completely ridiculous. I didn't say I was happy about it, but it IS realistic. There is no other way to evaluate a QB. Jim Kelly took almost 3 years to become big time. McNair & Pennington (over 2 years each). The very few immediate successes at QB can be counted on one hand. It took Favre almost 3 years before he was routinely making plays. Even Brady, for all his good play, took into year 3 before the coaches really trusted him and let him open things up. Granted, he won a SB in Year 1, but that was more because the coaches protected him and the superior talent surrounding him than anything else. It is a looong drawn out process and its not for the impatient. I don't like it any more than you, but thats reality unless we want to become one of the perenniel rebuilders in the NFL. We have to commit to JP and stick to him for a good 2.5-3 years.

Thats big of you.. I will reserve judgement on JP until Week 8 also....of the 2007 season.

How about the red standing Buffalo??? Green Bay and the COlts, worst logos in the league??? Sorry, but those are classic logos that have stood the test of time. Sometrhing ours will, but that stupid looking thing will not. Thats funny!!

When I win the lottery!!

I just figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.

You make very good points. I just wonder how much of that was starting 0-4, with new coaches, new system etc., and how much of that could have been alleviated with year-to-year consistency? I guess we'll never know. The one thing that will piss me right off tho, is if people expect JP to play like a 5 year vet. Its gonna take JP 2-3 years to really learn everything and have the experience to truly be a great QB. Its not gonna happen in Year 1 or maybe not in Year 2. It didn't happen for Kelly in 1986 and only at the end of 87 did it all really begin to click and this was a guy who had played a couple of years in the USFL and was one of the all time greats.

KD, you may very well be correct and I really hope you are. But after 5 straight non-playoff seasons, I'm personally so friggin sick of rebuilding. I really don't want to take a step back, even if may be for the greater long-term good. I know that is short-sighted of me, but I'm sick of watching crappy football. Sick of waiting till next year. Outside of the first 8 games in 02, the first 2 games in 03, and 6 out the last 7 games in 04, our team has been sh-------. They are simply one big tease. Now I know that the O will be dumbed down for JP, to begin with, and I truly hope he avoids the ridiculous stuipd mistakes that rookies make. I know, at first, I will be holding my breath every time he drops back to pass (not too different from DB). I just hope this works because I am so sick of watching bull sh--.

Does anyone know anyone who works there? I just ordered my new 05 Wrangler and was hoping to give them a call to see if I may be able to expedite the order (the dealer said CHrysler wouldn't begin building it till March 1). Reason is I have a road trip planned the weekend of March 17-19 and would love to be able to take it. Thanks a lot.

If we're really gonna do this, we had better use the xtra cash to upgrade the line. Resign Jonas, sign a top-notch left guard and lets go. JP's gonna need all the help he can get here. Also, we're gonna be facing a ton of 8 man fronts , at least, in the beggining, so JP had better be able to throw the deep ball. Finally, resigning Phat Pat is a huge priority. The D can't slip at all. We have to be perfect in every area.

22nd in yards maybe, but he made a bunch of big 3rd down catches. Was it his best year...no. But from my #1, soon to be #2 WR, damn fine. We MUST resign PW. Hopefully JJ as well, but we HAVE to keep the run stuffing tandem together. With either DB or JP, our D's margin for error is razor thin and we can't slip at all.

Or girls showing the top of their thong. And Virginia wants to legislate against that, shame on them. I couldn't agree more. There is very little difference in this law and in North Korea's crackdown on hair length (2 inches). I'm ssure that if the State Senate passes this and the gov signs it, it will be overturned on 1st Amendment grounds as soon as the Courts get to it. There is no compelling public reason for this law at all.

Virginia has become a national laughingstock with this. If someone see your underwear, then its a $50 fine??? How ridiculous. Now, if I was a kid inclined to wear the baggy pants (or a chick who liked the low-rider jeans that show the top of a thong), I'd simply not wear any underwear and fug yuou lawmakers!! How truly and utterly ridiculous. NYS has many, many problems (as does NYC). I'm just glad that telling people how to dress is not one of them.

All weee are saaaaaying, is give peace a chance!! :-)

If I was 13 and doing her, I wouldn't feel taken advantage of. I'd feel like Superman!!

She really could be one of the hottest things going right now.

Lost the square, won five large on teasing the Pats and the under.

Great thread. Duke alum here, obviously huge Duke fan. I think the biggest criticism that Coach K has justifiably received is that he has never developed a proper bench. His teams are always thin (this year by necessity), but have been exposed in some big games due to foul trouble or opponents scheming. The 99 title game loss was a perfect example, as was last year's final 4. Sheldon Williams barely played, yet this year he's the focus. Maybe if Williams played more he could have helped on Okafor. As far as in game changes go, he believes (and I think rightly so) do what you do best. You won't see him switch to a zone or start pounding the ball in the paint. Its straight man D, fluid passing and finding the open shot.

Dude, stop predicting the Pats downfall. They will be fine as long as Brady is their QB. They are a great team, who consistently kicks our asses. Give them their due. Our TEAM just has to step it up. Comments like Milloy's are not encouraging. Its like...You wanna be the man, you gotta beat the man. Our road towards respectability, the playoffs and the Super Bowl goes thru New England.

Nahh, I teased the Pats down to 1 with the under, now at 54 with the tease.

I'm not willing to endure 6-10 for a chance at 13-3. I'd be happy with 10-6 or 11-5 and a berth at this point. I'm so sick of watching crappy football during the TD era the thought of more rebuilding sickens me.

I agree with canbuff, with one caveat. If JP truly looks great in the preseason give him a shot. But Pennington and McNair both sat for TWO years, not one. I have no problem with JP sitting for a year and Bledsoe being the starter. In fact, I'd prefer it. I think with some of the D game plans we're gonna see, JP may end up more dazed and confused than good. It may destroy his confidence and then we're up ***** creek. With Bledsoe, you at least know what you are getting and our coaches can get the best out of him. As to bringing another bvet to be caretaker for a year, I think the idea has no merit. Drew Brees would not be caretaker. Guys like Warner or Garcia have less left than Bledsoe, and I don't want to wait till they learn the system. Its Bledsoe then JP in my opinion.

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Nice!!! Good luck, sound like a lot of fun!! Keep us posted.

Here in NYC, you have to go to a beer distributor to get it (which I do). I have rarely seen it available in any bars.

Believe it....the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas. I was amazed and quite happy.