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I don't want to put words in his mouth but what I think he means is that if you're not actually the ventriloquist, you're the ventriloquist's dummy.
are you speaking for Faking then? then you must be his dummy.
you got it broor are you the dummy?
it's so hard to tell who's sitting on who's lap in this case. i take it that you both swap turns with each other.
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WOW!!!!!! this thread got a lot of posts deleted. i stated it once and i'll state it again, if Faking a Roughin thinks i'm ExpertOpinion, Kantorski, or SuperiorKnowledge, you are 1000% wrong......
...... and you can take THAT to the bank.
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Lee Evans and Marshawn Lynch are the best talent that the Bills have at their positions. Interestingly when looking at the production by Lee and Marshawn for last season in games played by JP or Trent, there is a noteworthy difference in their performances.
Lee avaraged 65 yards per game receiving when JP was QB (455 yards in 7 games - including Jets game while JP was in there)and 40 yards per game (394 yards in 10 games - including Jets game while Trent was in there).
Marshawn ran for a 4.3 yards per carry (88 carries for 380 yards) with JP at QB and 3.8 yards per carry (192 carries for 735 yards) with Trent at QB.
Could it be that opposing defenses respect the pass more with JP in there giving Marshawn a bit more running room? I doubt that anyone on the board would dispute that JP finds Lee more more big plays more often than does Trent. Wouldn't you want the guy in there that can best utilize the best offensive players this team has? Looks like a no-brainer to me.
all i have to tell you is..... keep the faith.
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Agree with all of those but never remember Three Little Pigs. Maybe by tune but not by name.
Green Jelly was a heavy metal/punk band who came out with that song somewhere between 1992-1995. they were known as Green Jello, at the time, but had to change their name because somebody threatened to sue them. (i think it was a jello company) one of the band members was from WNY too. (i think it was Amherst or Kenmore) anyways, the album was called Cereal Killer. they even had a song on there called Flight of the Skajaquada. unless you were from WNY, nobody knew what the hell the Skajaquada was.
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Ride Captain Ride- Blues Image
honorable mentions......
Chevy Van- Sammy Johns
Tainted Love- Soft Cell
Three Little Pigs- Green Jelly
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just tell her to go get you a beer. oh yeah.... and get SABURZFAN one too while she's at it.
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There is no such thing as a super-easy win for this team.
i agree.
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How in the hell did the Patsies get the easiest record in the entire league??!!
Brady and his kneepads must have been doing some overtime.
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ditto. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. And no hopping back on the bandwagon when we start putting it all together. No fair weather fans welcome
what a bunch of crap. we welcome all fans whether they are fair-weathered or not. when we do start putting it together, we all know where who stood when the times were tough. since when were you put in charge of the bandwagon anyways? i guess this is why we don't see eye to eye on a lot of things because you come off like some pompous jerkoff.
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looks like a roadtrip for October 5th.
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Avery is a d0uchebag. i'd like to see a goon beat the living hell out of him.
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MODS: CAN YOU PLEASE KEEP THIS HERE FOR JUST A LITTLE BIT BEFORE MOVING TO CONSUMER FORUM?
My Vacuum sh-- the bed. I need a new one. I can get a decent one for $100, or a Dyson for $400-$500. Are they THAT good?
Discuss.
you can get a Losman fan for cheaper and they suck better.
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Sorry to be a bore, but I am just indescribably thrilled.
My daughter has been accepted to, and will attend Temple Law School with a full tuition scholarship. Yeah, call me a boring, proud father.
I came up hard. Tough neighborhood, dysfunctional house. My wife was indescribably poor. We broke our asses to send her to Dartmouth. It looks like it might pay off. She is already studying and is going to be prepared. My main goal for my 3 daughters was that they had an easier life than Millie and me, and not have to be exposed to the ugliness that I had to see; things I have compartmentalized and will not talk about. I used to think about this sometimes after really crazy situations at work.
I think that it's looking good so far, and I thank God for this. Her sisters are right in her footsteps.
As for this board.....I sent out some PMs to people I thought might have some useful info. The information/help I received was flat out, off the charts staggering, even humbling.
Posters right here on TBD did the following:
1) Offered to meet her and be a liason to Admissions at a particular school at which he is an alum.
2) Explained fine print wrt scholarships (more complicated than it sounds).
3) A poster sent me a complete breakdown of every neighborhood in Philly, and followed it up with 2 more long, informative letters. It must have taken hours. Seriously.
4) Sent me a precinct by precinct crime map of Philly.
5) A Temple alum offered in depth, inside info about the school, numerous times.
6) Told me what's up with graduates from particular schools that they know personally.
The list could continue.
I was new at this particular process and got help here that I will never forget. You people know who you are, and I thank you eternally for caring enough to be of so much assistance. Sometimes I think that we take this board for granted, but when the chips are down, there are people here who actually care about eachother. Yeah, we are testy sometimes and we bicker. It's all good.
Again, sorry to be a bore. After I click on "Post New Message," I am going to hoist up a beer and toast to success of my baby, and to the great people who went out of their way for me although they just didn't have to, nor had any real reason to. You too SDS. Good job!
BfNYC
congrat to you and your daughter Bill.
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A very thoughtful post from R. Rich which lays out the general notion that as no one player/position improvement will put the Bills over the top, but improving a variety of positions with the very good but not great players we will likely be able to get will not hurt our team building at all is a good one,
This sensible view if taken forces us away from the notion that we MUST choose a particular player by trading up or trading down, but we can see how reality develops (reality is a pesky thing) and simply try to do the right thing (this may be trading down, making a pick depending upon who is left and who slips as we approach our pick, or even trading up as it becomes more clear if a player who is top 5 on our board slips to #8.
This view is frustrating I am sure for the over-active poster such as myself IF one has a point of view that wants a particular player or position (fortunately I do not have my eye on any one player or any one position so I am not driven to make my usual repetitive case for some pick). It also must be frustrating for the legends in their own mind out there who think and argue they have it all figured out, even though the draft is a huge multi-variable equation and usually a surprise happens somewhere in the top 20 (like the run on safeties which led to 3 being picked in the top 15 year before last when some argue safeties should not be taken to round 2 and even more reasonable folks had Whitner (who has been the class of the safeties taken so far) meriting a pick in the 20s).
It is fun to mock draft and theorize but it is even more fun because reality usually renders most mocks as being silly notions by pick #10.
Though inspired by an earlier post I put this up separately as I think through this new model of looking at things for me and of course to invite any comments helpful or the weird certainty which sometime echoes loudly on TSW (drop dead certainty often strikes me as odd since I think specifically this is all interesting because it is impossible to know exactly what reality will be and different realities are totally legitimate ways to proceed depending upon what happens- ex. picking Whitner at #8 was totally whacky if Huff was also still on the board AND there were good opportunities to trade down and still get one of the two, however, with Oak surprising folks and taking Huff at #7 the Bills were simply forced to fill their safety hole by taking Whitner at #8 as he likely would not have made it to #10 as DET at #9 was looking for a safety. Fortunately for us Whitner has proved to be noticeably better than Huff so this way early pick of the second safety in the draft in retrospect was the right move- though after 2 years it really is a year too early to draw legit conclusions.
At any rate, I am more than happy to leave it to the mods to deal with folding this into the Rich threat which prompted it if they wish.
At any rate, my thinking now revolve around assessing where the Bills are at particular positions (fairly typical assessment), but also articulating for myself where they are in terms of the quality of a plan B and a plan C at each position. I then factor this against my sense of the quality of the players and who is likely to be available (a virtual total crapshoot as I do not know the needs of other teams as well as I feel I know the Bills) and the results of this multi-variable equation leads me to be comfortable or uncomfortable with various mocks.
Specifically, my sense is (this is presented in the order of the Depth Chart at Bills Daily and is not a statement of the importance IMHO of particular positions):
OFFENSE
Quarterbacks- Plan A- adequate, Plan B- Adequate, Plan C- who knows.
Edwards has not yet done enough on the field to earn the title of a solid starter, but he has outstanding potential and deserves the starter shot though I expect him to be a second year player with the ups and downs that come with this.
Losman called himself out in the Jax game as a make or break and he broke. Though his career as a starter as a Bill is done (I think he has great athletic talents and a fair chance to do well in a different situation though he is done as a starter here) he is a former NFL starting QB who if we do not get a good deal for him (this must include us being able to sign a viable back-up) he has the talents to fill in for us in spots if we need it.
Hamdan is an unknown quantity with a fun name. I will be happy if he is seen from time to time but never heard from.
I see no need to worry about this position for draft purposes.
Tight End- Plan A- inadequate, Plan B- inadequate, Plan C- Nonexistent
The player quality at this position leaves me longing for an approach like the St. Louis Rams where until their acquisition of McMichael last year this team would get a reception or two from the TE. If Schonert plans to run a more traditional offense using the TE as a receiver then a receiving TE is one of our primary needs. The unfortunate thing is that no TE is likely worthy of a 1st rounder and even though folks like Bennet, Kellar, or Davis MAY one day be very good pros, none are so drop dead certain that one would want to build an offense around them and we dod not even has a good plan B TE receiver as Royal is a consistent blocker at best.
We showed some flashes of good receiving production out of the TE slot in a couple of Edwards game (though one of my favorite plays of last year was Fowler/JP muffing the snap but JP showing great athleticism picking it up on the bounce and great QB skills keeping looking downfield and then hitting Gaines who stuck with getting open to catch the pass, but Gaines is gone and Royal has been inconsistent so we need something different to happen here. Ironically, if we solve this issue, the big beneficiary will likely be our pass D production as an effective mid-short zone passing game reduce the number of 3 and outs we have. Getting a working TE threat would improve our pass D productivity far more than getting a CB who can cover WRs all over the field IMHO because we rarely use the CB in this role in our version of the Cover 2.
Our draft needs really depends on what Schonert is going to try to do.
RB- Plan A- Very Good, Plan B- Very Good, Plan C- Adequate
I think Lynch has an impressive rookie year and if we use the receiving skills he showed in college (which we never did consistently using the Fairchild O regardless of who the QB was.) he can become a legit Pro Bowler. Jackson is a great plan B who not only subs well from play to play, bu can even peel off a 100 yard game. Wright has the unusual talent combo of being a good receiver and good short yardage back in college but we need to find an effective way employ these skills
No draft need here, but a big coaching task for the OC to develop a scheme which uses them as receivers and the position coach to train these very young players to realize receiving talents as pros they showed in college.
No draft needs at RB.
FB Plan A- Inadequate, Plan B- Inadequate
Barnes is a journeyman and Evans is a journeyman in training. The main thing which makes me doubt that the Bills will not pursue a TE who is more of an offensive threat is that it seems pretty clear that FB in not only not an offensive threat but even marginal for pass blocking ability.
No ability in this draft to even meet our FB needs if this were to be made a key to our offense. We are most likely to employ Wright as our short yardage guy and go with a HB set-up that merges our inadequacies at TE with our inadequacies at FB.
Wide Receivers Plsn A:- Adequate to very good, Plan B: Non-existent Plan C: Good to very good, Plan D: Adequate, Plan E: Inadequate
The lack of receiving threats on this team at FB and TE our failure under Fairchild to effectively use the RBs ar receivers (be it the failure to effectively bring production from Lynch as a receiver despite good college chops and regardless of which QB was in and even seeing far better us of Willis as a receiver in Balt than here) means we likely
will need to get a lot of production from our WRs.
Evans had great chemistry with JP but needs to develop the same effective deep passing production with Edwards. His loyalty to JP was admirable but approached hissy-fits due to his lack of clicking with Edwards and his FA status next year looming large. The lack of us having an effective threat at #2 is not only a problem in itself but makes the multi-variable Evans equation impossible to solve correctly without credible #2 production.
Parrish has great explosiveness and open field ability demonstrated in his PRs and some quick slants. He also has shown himself to be a tough and becoming reliable receiver over the middle (very impressive for a little guy).
Reed is a very talented #4, but is not a speed threat at #3 and is overmatched as a #2. If we see injuries like in the past and given ST needs, the #5 WR is more than a mere afterthought. I like both Jenkins and Mayle as good competitors who if the show ST production are great to have.
I see us needing two good players at WR from this draft. Though this draft does not have anyone I see as worthy of a #12 pick at WR we should be able to find two first day choices to fill out our WR needs.
Guards- Plan A: Adequate could be very good, Plan B: (really A prime) adequate good be good. Plan C: Journeyman could be adequate, Plan D: Disappointment as starter could be adequate,
Overall chemistry and health will be key. Dockery has gotten the big bucks and while he has not yet developed into a Kent Hullesque leader of this unit by performance or respect, it would be still be silly to demand he produce this in his first year. For now, I think folks feel there was a clear upgrade in OL play and Dockery though we are paying him a ton was a clear important part of that upgrade.
His fellow guard the very young Butler was also impressive, but is still learning and ain't there yet but there are reasons to be hopeful. Whittles injury meant that our main back-up G questions are not answered though he has the experience to fill this role. Yet, he is old enough that it may be this injury is just the first in a string which makes him not an answer for us. The other guard Preston is simply a disappointment, but actually he showed enough that he got a shot though he proved not be starting material. yet we are looking for a #3 G at most so his failure as a starting answer does not necessarily mean he can not be good enough to be the #4 (or maybe the #3 G.
You can never have enough depth on your OL and a G is a good thing for us to get if we think he can become a solid back-up.
Tackles- Plan A- Excellent. Plan B (A prime)- adequate, Plan C- Inadequate Plan D- Inadequate
Peters being drafted by a UDFA TE and then being convinced and supported by JMac to switch to LT is a piece of great work that should leave folks satisfied with what JMac brought to the Bills despite his not repeating his SB OL performance he produced for NYG with a bunch of has been OL players. Walker is a huge man (and it is really hard to teach huge) who also shows signs of coming into his own as an RT. Nevertheless injuries are a constant concern even if the starters do not make it a worry and our two back-up Ts ain't there yet.
A tried and true vet on his way out might have been a better patch to have but increased OL depth and in particular at T is needed so this may be a draft need
Centers- Plan A- Adequate (but we want and need more) Plan B- Adequate (barely if that). I think Fowler has done an OK job in his play and our OL situation is improved from under its previous guidance at center. I think he has proved to be far more durable than his earlier career indicated.
That being said if we want our OL to be dominant we will need a more dominant center than Fowler. I think many fans realize that and some in an attempt to advocate that over-reach and claim Fowler sucks and cannot play. I disagree in that I say his play so far has been adequate and he is very mobile which would hold us in better stead if we used his skills more with pulling center runs to the outside or used a mobile pocket for a QB of JPs strengths and weakenesses. However, unless Schonert changes our offensive style our game does not fit Fowler that well.
Add to that back-up Preston's disappointing performance in an effort to have him start at G. Again folks are overclaiming seeming to say that because he is not good enough to start consistently at G he cannot be an adequate back-up Center. Actually the C spot is his natural spot and even if him being back-up C is not anyone's preference and he/we will be in trouble if he Foler goes down for multiple games rather than giving him an ocaisional blow or one or two spot starts then we might be in trouble (as most teams would be if their starting C went down.
Center is not a draft priority but we should be on the look out if a quality C slips and to look for a development project for next year or so,
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DEFENSE - I'll work on that tomorrow.
Ends Tackles Outside LBs Middle LBs
Aaron Schobel Marcus Stroud Angelo Crowell Paul Pozluszny
Chris Kelsay John McCargo Kawika Mitchell John DiGiorgio
Ryan Denney Spencer Johnson Keith Ellison
Copeland Bryan Kyle Williams Blake Costanzo
Ryan Neill Jason Jefferson
Shaun Nua Corey Mace
Daniel Watts
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Cornerback Strong Safety Free Safety
Terrence McGee Donte Whitner Ko Simpson
Jabari Greer Bryan Scott Bryan Scott
William James John Wendling George Wilson
Ashton Youboty Jon Corto Jon Corto
Dustin Fox
SPECIAL TEAMS
Kicker Punter Punt Returner Kick Returner
Rian Lindell Brian Moorman Roscoe Parrish Terrence McGee
D.J. Fitzpatrick D.J. Fitzpatrick Fred Jackson Roscoe Parrish
Fred Jackson
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Snapper Holder
Ryan Neill Brian Moorman
Duke Preston
I'm sorry Pyrite but your paragraph long run-on sentences and obsessive use of parenthesis in every paragraph, not alone have parenthesis inside of parenthesis, just dumbfounds me....I can never concentrate on any of your posts...sry I tried and failedAgreedLOL!!!!!!!!! just be thankful that you didn't hear it in person. you would think that you're Evander Holyfield and she's Mike Tyson. i bet her mouth runs like a rubber ducks ass in a windstorm.
Sorry. When I do part 2, i will try to focus a little more on presentation rather than simply thinking out loud.you mean there's more?????? Oy Vey.........
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that place is awesome. i haven't been there in years but we used to stop there to eat when the wrestling matches were at The Aud.
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Replacing Drew Bledsoe with JP Losman, Travis Henry with Willis MaGahee, Willis MaGahee with Marshawn Lynch, and then JP Losman with Trent Edwards. This is only the major components on the offensive side of the ball. Have I missed anyone? If we are looking to replace Lee Evans in this year's draft would be the icing on the cake. When are we going to have continuity?
it just goes to show how bad the Donna Ho era was. Evans might have been the ONLY pick he got right.
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Didn't Ole' Whitey trade away the first to move up or back into the 1st to get Losman?
this makes the 05 draft blow even more.
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1. Houston David Carr QB Fresno State
2. Carolina Julius Peppers DE North Carolina
3. Detroit Joey Harrington QB Oregon
4. Buffalo Mike Williams OT Texas
5. San Diego Quentin Jammer CB Texas
6. Kansas City (from Dallas) Ryan Sims DT North Carolina
7. Minnesota Bryant McKinnie OT Miami (Fla)
8.Dallas (from Kansas City) Roy Williams SS Oklahoma
9. Jacksonville John Henderson DT Tennessee
10. Cincinnati Levi Jones OT Arizona State
11. Indianapolis Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse
12. Arizona Wendell Bryant DT Wisconsin
13. New Orleans Donte Stallworth WR Tennessee
14. NY Giants (from Tennessee) Jeremy Shockey TE Miami (Fla)
15. Tennessee (from NY Giants) Albert Haynesworth DT Tennessee
16. Cleveland William Green RB Boston College
17. Oakland (from Atlanta) Phillip Buchanon CB Miami (Fla)
18. Atlanta (from Washington through Oakland) T.J. Duckett RB Michigan State
19. Denver Ashley Lelie WR Hawaii
20. Green Bay (from Seattle) Javon Walker WR Florida State
21. New England (from Tampa Bay through Oakland and Washington) Daniel Graham TE Colorado
22. NY Jets Bryan Thomas DE Alabama-Birmingham
23. Oakland Napolean Harris OLB Northwestern
24. Baltimore Edward Reed S Miami (FLA)
25. New Orleans (from Miami) Charles Grant DE Georgia
26. Philadelphia Lito Sheppard CB Florida
27. San Francisco Mike Rumph CB Miami (Fla)
28. Seattle (from Green Bay) Jerramy Stevens TE Washington
29. Chicago Marc Colombo OT Boston College
30. Pittsburgh Kendall Simmons OG Auburn
31. St. Louis Robert Thomas MLB UCLA
32. Washington (from New England) Patrick Ramsey QB Tulane
If the Bills drafed any of these guys that year, you wouldn't be complaining.
back then, a lot of people thought the Bengals were crazy for drafting Levi Jones that early. he did pan out for them though.
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Make a written note for yourself of all the bad things you feel about JP as a QB. Put it in a safe place where you can find it in a several years. Keep track of his career wherever he goes. At the end of his career, find your note and read it. I think you're in for a surprise.
i did that with Robosack. i wasn't surprised and i doubt i'll be surprised with this chump.
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Sorry, but I think NFL defenses caught up with Trent. That showed up those last three games. Defenses love the checkdown QB and will let Trent do that all game long because they know he won't put up the six points when he gets to the red zone. They also love the fact that he tips off running plays with the fake audibles. That wasn't very smart. I'd rather have the QB that can score from anywhere on the field which is Losman.
i'd rather have a QB who can win games, which is NOT Losman.
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Saburzfan is on my ignore list yet I still need to read his drivel when his post's are quoted
you NEED to stop ignoring the truth.
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JP bashers continually complain that JP was just given the job, and that impacted his mindset and contributed to his failings.
that is 100% false. being a 1st Round draft pick, it was expected that he was going to be "given the job." if the complaining of some Bills fans "impacted his mindset and contributed to his failings" then he should be thinking about another line of work. the excuses are getting more and more ridiculous.
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the only statistic i care about are more Bills wins.
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I'm rubber and you're glue, everything you say bounces off... ahh what's the use.....
Brandon: Losman will be part of team in 2008
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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you're the one calling me out. just because my opinion differs from yours, YOU labeled me as being a poster with several names. i call you out on it, tell you that you are wrong, and your girlfriend gets involved. does she fight all of your battles? how pathetic it is that your only out is calling somebody a troll.