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Yeah the above was a Nesmith song, a few of his songs become lesser hits for the band although not in the league with the Neil Diamond/Boyce & Hart/Goffin & King stuff. Also a Nesmith song:

One thing to get used to especially in winter is, moose will just walk in the middle of the road and there's not much you can do about it.

There could probably be a topic of same-name-songs?

I'm curious to see if the Bills strongest OL config is Anderson at C and McG back at LG. He was a plus at C in '24 but was plus-plus at G in '23. Of course then you'd be bringing in Grable or Van Demark for jumbo sets. Broeker was a solid value, most years he'd have made the team. He was worlds better than Quessenberry and Boettger in preseason, he just didn't look as good as Anderson did. The Texans nabbed him off waivers and he's still there.

In the Gunner thread it was noted that he took Calen Bullock at S in his mock pick #60 instead of Bishop. Bullock went #78 to the Texans and started, pulling 5 interceptions and 1 fumble recovery. If he's on the Bills roster instead of Bishop there's a chance that's enough to make the difference in a VERY close AFCCG.

What's REALLY interesting is how often Gunner pegs the position being drafted at that slot. The only miss is Kincaid as a receiving TE instead of a proper WR.

I'm your stalkerberry. From the latest v3.0 mocks I could find: 2024 #28 Gunner: Brian Thomas WR (actual draft position #23 JAX) Bills: Trade down to #32, Keon Coleman WR + DeWayne Carter DT #95 (Xavier Worthy WR taken #28 KC + Jaden Hicks S #133) Yeah there's a lot to complain about the trade. Thomas wasn't there at 28 but nobody in that area of the draft had as much impact. Both KC players outplayed their BUF counterparts which usually means you lost the trade. 2024 #60 Gunner: Calen Bullock S (actual #78 HOU) Bills: Cole Bishop S Bullock had a terrific rookie season, 54 tackles, 5 picks, 1 FR and 11 passes defended allowing a 45.0 QBR when targeted - as a 21 year old. Clean win Gunner. 2023 #27 Gunner: Jordan Addison WR (actual #23 MIN) Bills: Trade up to 25 for Dalton Kincaid TE (Anton Harrison OT taken #27 JAX + Tyler Lacy DE #130) Addison is clearly someone the Bills could've used in 2024, Kincaid struggled as a sophomore and the Bills paid a 4th to go get him. Irl Addison was not an option, but the Bills paying a cost to get a guy less productive than others drafted later... 2023 #59 Gunner: Andrew Vorhees G (actual #229 BAL) Bills: O'Cyrus Torrence G This is skewed because Vorhees tore an ACL at the Combine after this mock and there was no R2 mock after v1.0. Torrence has slotted in nicely. Have to give an edge to the Bills here but it's just luck. 2022 #25 Gunner: Andrew Booth CB (actual #42 MIN) Bills: Trade up to 23 for Kaiir Elam CB (Tyler Linderbaum C taken #25 BAL + Jordan Stout P #130) Hah! Both lose this one but the Bills lose harder giving a 4th to move up for a bust. The correct answer was: Kyler Gordon. Extra kick in the jimmies is Baltimore getting 2 starters (and a Pro Bowler).

Now that I've familiarized myself a little more with the current pre-combine slotting, it is disturbing to me how many corners are coming off @GunnerBill's mock early. Not even saying it's not likely but in your scenario there's at least 2 DT's there at #30 that are a clear cut "draft me" in Nolen and Harmon but then a CB run taking the second tier of Harrison, Hairston & Amos. Zy Alexander is still there... I might have to pull the trigger on that instead of Bond. For me so far just weighing the different mock engines, the most common thing I've been running into is trying to flip 56 or 62 (+ lower round cheese) into two picks in the 80-100 range especially if an OT is sliding that someone will pop up for. In that range there should be a couple targets, guys like David Walker, Tyler Baron, Jordan Burch, Saivion Jones, Darius Alexander, Darian Porter, Dorian Strong on D or Jack Bech, Savion Williams, Tory Horton at WR (or a higher rated faller). Feels like ODB needs at least 5 'scripts' with some branches to them depending on what's there at 30: 1) DT, 2) EDGE, 3) CB, 4) WR, 5) nothing they want. Like dominos that will dictate the rest of the first 4 picks. What they need from those is help at those first 4 positions. Then look at maybe popping up for safety with a 5+6 or something. So at #208 I've been trying to decide whether to mock Burnip from Bama, or Elzinga from Oklahoma to the Bills to challenge Martin at P. I'm leaning Elzinga... what do you think?

Not for long. Rasul's position on the roster needs to be upgraded, and Tre ain't it at this point.

19M projected for a slot guy? That's gonna be a no. Those guys get drafted in the 5th round for a reason, to paraphrase Monos. Benford projecting 4/90 makes a high choice this year on CB imperative. Bernard and Cook at those numbers are doable.

Getting busted doesn't mean you were a bust...

And you could probably top that with Walt Patulski and Tom Cousineau... although in that era the Nebraska Bobbsey Twins Bob Nelson and Tom Ruud as an R1+R2 package were poison... they both immediately staged a holdout, and when they finally came in they were unplayable from the get-go. Say what you will about Bobby Hart, by the time he was released Kromer had coached him up to near serviceability.