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I feel the same way... I think its that we want to see JoePa go out on a high note...not after a 4-7 season or something like that, so we would like to see him come back 1 more year and try to right the ship. I just want to see JoePA leave gracefully and on a positive note thats all I ask.

148 with 1 negative....actually i started at -1

Maybe the Red $ox can do something the Yankee$ have done with regularity and the $ox havent in many many moons. Repeat.

I couldnt agree more...Yankees payroll is going through the roof but yet the team has more holes now then it did in the late 90's..$teinbrenner has become enamored with acquiring the high profile stars.its so obvious to me that the yankees were built on names right now and the Sox have that look of a team that was built to succeed, they had all the chips in place this year....if George does not curtail these moves, and start building from within again...I wouldnt be shocked if the Yankees become similar to the New York Rangers. Mark it down.

I would almost kill to see some Sabres hockey right about now

10 and 10....well at leat both of our teams were consistent I guess

Im not saying that to be classless, and you know I was rooting for the Cards and complemented them a lot during the year, but I wasnt one of these Yankees fans who was CERTIAN they would win it all, they had holes and that was easy to see, I give Boston credit, they made an amazing comeback....But all year we heard that the Cards wre clearly the best team and the Yankees are inferoir to the Cards etc..

tony is right up there with chokes....supposed great teams that get in the World Series and fold as fast as I fold 2 7 offsuit in Hold Em

You WANT them to remember that the most.... The Yankees choke, collapse, or whatever will be long remembed I agree 100 percent, but I know Red Sox fans will remember the last out of the 2004 World Series just as much. 105 win team, and they looked like the Tampa Bay Devil Rays in the World Series...you have to eat some crow,you were CERTIAN noboby would stop the Cards...lets be fair about that. Is that the best the NL has to offer??

The Boston Celtics won their 1st NBA title against the St Louis Hawks The Boston Bruins ended a long dry spell of Stanley Cups and won it against...the St Louis Blues. The New England Patriots won their 1st ever Super Bowl againt.....the St Louis Rams And the Red Sox ended the celebreated "curse" and won a World Series against..........the St Louis Cardinals. And I thought Buffalo had it bad with Dallas.....my goodness

And I agree...the Sox should be applauded for their character, they were truly a team...but $ is NEVER mentioned...

In the big picture yes, but thinking about baseball today, not really. A lot of Yankee haters and non Yankees fans love to bring up $ as the only reason the yankees are winning again, but not many fans want to say that the Red Sox have also benefitted from spending more $ too. So looking at their talent level, its not that suprising they won. the way they came back against the Yankees down 3-0 it was, but overall looking at 2004 if you told me the Red Sox would win the WS, I wouldnt have been that shocked.

I thought ABC menat Always Bill Clinton?

The ones that believe this probably watched The Day After Tomorrow, a movie which was clearly geared towards ripping Bush and Cheney and was about natural disasters, could the producers of that movie made that less obvious?

I just love the Red Sox fan is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO desperate to come up with a chant against the Yankees...Year 2000?? 4 years????? Weak. Very very weak.

I agree....seems to me that Drew's comments were directly towards the OL...who knows, maybe the OL will respond, or they will lose even more respect for him and Drew will get drilled again and again

But the Red Sox never bought a player either. Please. Yankees are FAR from being angels Ill admit that, but cmon already

The Mets, by a LONG mile. Yes the Red Sox pulled off the impossible 3-0 deficit, and against their arch nemesis...but the Mets were a true Miracle, from April-October.

Im not a bitter Yankees fan at all. Congrats to the Red Sox team, they earned it and they deserve it. For this Red Sox fans who have suffered with their team for so long, enjoy every minute of it. So there can be no more talk of stupid curses or 1918 either, its over. In a weird twisted way Im glad this "curse" is over, I really am. Yankees won the ALCS in 1999, 2003 and the Red Sox won in 2004. Now the rivarly has taken on a whole new meaning, a new chapter if you will. I dont know why some Yankees fans I hear call the FAN in New York are so upset about the curse being over. Big deal. Yankees fans should remember just how great we had it from 1996-2000. Being a fan of the Bills and Sabres for so long I never take moments like that for granted. Another thing: Yankees fans can never ever mention the curse again, much like a Red Sox fan shouldnt moan about $ anymore either, you team has plenty of it too. You want A-Rod now??? Yankees $ advantage really got us far this year, didnt it?

1918. I just needed to say it one more time before it cannot be used anymore. To all the classy Sox fans here on the board. Congrats. The Red Sox earned it and they deserve it. Now...screw em

T.O. Sorry if this was posted already...this game is gonna be a war.... PHILADELPHIA (AP) - Terrell Owens insists he's not looking back at his brief stint with Baltimore, even if the next chapter between the Eagles' receiver and the Ravens has yet to be written. Owens said Wednesday it was an "offensive" racial comment by Ravens general manager Ozzie Newsome that persuaded him to spurn an offseason deal to Baltimore, along with not wanting to play with Ravens quarterback Kyle Boller and a desire to play with Philadelphia's Donovan McNabb. In his recent autobiography, Owens wrote that Newsome told the wide receiver's agent that, "He was a black man from Alabama just like TO" and that "sometimes a black man's gotta be slapped." "Initially, I was kind of stunned by it," Owens said. "My agent was kind of reluctant to tell me about it at the time. What a lot of people don't know, and I guess I'll let it out now, is that was pretty much one of the main reasons I didn't want to go there." Asked about the statement, Newsome, who also is black, said he didn't want to talk about it. "Please, why should I respond to that? I did tell TO that he should check with the veterans we brought in over the years," he told The Baltimore Sun for Tuesday's editions. "I told him to call Rod Woodson, Shannon Sharpe, Michael McCrary and Sam Adams, and they will let him know how we treat veterans here." Of course, even though he has criticized former teammate Jeff Garcia, danced on the Dallas Cowboys' star and now this, Owens wondered why these hot topics always arise as he prepares to play those teams. He then found a reason, saying it's, "the media's way of trying to stir something" and that he knew, "They'd try and find something." Finding something controversial about Owens is like trying to find a Space Needle in a haystack, especially when he writes about these issues without any prompting from anyone with a pen and notebook. Owens wondered why this particular excerpt was of any consequence only days before playing Newsome's Ravens. "Why didn't they bring it up last week or the week before?" Owens said. "The book's been out. "A lot of people are looking for me to fail. They're looking for some type of distraction." Owens proclaimed he'd rather do his talking - or is that writing, from someone who once yielded a Sharpie after scoring a touchdown? - on the field. After a paperwork problem prevented Owens from becoming a free agent, Baltimore acquired the outspoken receiver from the 49ers. But Owens protested the trade, refused to show up for a physical and insisted he wanted to play in Philadelphia. The union then filed a grievance on Owens' behalf to make him a free agent and the three teams agreed to a trade before an arbitrator could rule on the case. When the two teams played in the preseason, McNabb and Owens connected on an 81-yard TD pass on Philadelphia's first play. The trade has worked out well for Owens, who has a team-best 34 catches for 596 yards and eight touchdowns for the unbeaten Eagles, while Baltimore (4-2) is 31st in the league in total offense.

What some will do for a story!! Keith Hernandez!?!??! 'Curse of Keith Hernandez' cripples the Cards By Dan O'Neill Of the Post-Dispatch 10/25/2004 It's obvious something sinister is at work here, something perversely unnatural. A curse has descended on this World Series, as sure as the sutures on Curt Schilling's ankle. And let's be clear, we're not referring to the celebrated "Curse of the Bambino," the hex that has haunted the Boston Red Sox since they sold Babe Ruth to the Yankees after the 1919 season. The fractured franchise has been without a world championship since. But this newly identified enchantment is so powerful it is neutralizing the Sultan of Spells, making the 86-year-old BoSox curse seem like an amusing little sidebar. The Red Sox finally have found an opponent with a poltergeist more profound than theirs, a curse that is reversing the flow of negative energy and threatening to frustrate Cardinal Country for the 18th season in succession. The revelation revealed itself to this scribe and some colleagues early Monday morning. We were engaged in some incoherent conversation on a rental car shuttle bus at Boston's Logan Airport at 4 o'clock in the morning. But, intentionally or deliriously, we were onto something. The Cardinals are in dire shape in this World Series, down two games to nil. More disturbing, they have not looked anything like themselves. The team, which was consistent and efficient enough to win 105 games in the regular season, has been out of sorts in this series from the get-go. The Cardinals have walked 14 Red Sox batsmen, plunked three others and put runners on the bases like they were making donations in the Sunday basket. The Red Sox have plated 17 base runners in the Series, while stranding 21 base runners. They have had more opportunities than Tony Danza. It's not like our boys. We have been missing location, missing bases, missing in action. Boston was nothing but bad weather, bad hotels and bad karma. It's the curse, I tell you, the Curse of Keith Hernandez. This franchise has not won a world championship since it dealt Hernandez to the New York Mets for Neil Allen and Rick Owenby on June 15, 1983, just months after winning the 1982 World Series. Tangibly speaking, that trade didn't go well for our side. The hard-throwing Allen was a bust in St. Louis, first as a reliever and then as a starter. After three seasons, and a 20-16 record, he was sold to the Yankees. Hernandez, who was a National League MVP and batting champion for the Cardinals in 1979, became a cornerstone for the Pond Scum. He set a major league record for game-winning runs batted in (24) in 1985. He helped guide the Mets to a world championship in 1986. The "Curse of Keith" worked against the Red Sox in that one. Boston was on the verge of a World Series title in the 10th inning of Game 6, two outs, nobody on, when the Mets rallied for a 6-5 victory. Hernandez was criticized later when it was discovered he already had retreated to the Mets clubhouse to drink a beer when the improbable uprising occurred. What actually took place is perfectly clear now. At precisely the time Hernandez pulled the tab on a cold Budweiser, Mookie Wilson's ground ball eluded the otherwise sure-fielding Bill Buckner and the series turned around. Coincidence? C'mon. Since trading Hernandez, the Cardinals have had two previous World Series chances to add to their nine world championships. They lost both times under extenuating circumstances. In 1985, the Cardinals lost their base-stealing catalyst Vince Coleman to injury when he got his leg caught under the mechanized tarp at the stadium. Weird. Still, the Cardinals were about to close out the Kansas City Royals in the "I-70 Series" when umpire Don Denkinger blew the call on Jorge Orta. Once again, the crucial, series-turning play developed at first base, Hernandez's old post. Happenstance? Me thinks not. In the 1987 World Series, the Cardinals made it back to the World Series against the Minnesota Twins. But again, their chances were diminished when they lost slugging first baseman Jack Clark to injury. The club still managed to win three in a row at Busch Stadium and went back to Minnesota with a 3-2 lead, one victory away. But the Twins won Game 6 behind a grand slam by Kent Hrbek, who just happened to be a first baseman with the initials "K.H." The Cardinals then lost Game 7 as well. The pitcher who saved the game, Jeff Reardon, was a teammate of Hernandez's in New York, probably popped a beer with him at one point or another. The "Curse of Keith" has tormented the franchise during Tony La Russa's regime as manager. Each time the club advances to the postseason, whether it's Mark McGwire, Mike Matheny, Scott Rolen or Chris Carpenter, it loses a key player to injury. Perhaps the most inglorious disappointment was in 2002, when the team lost Rolen during a sweep of the Diamondbacks in the division series and then lost the NLCS in five games to the San Francisco Giants. Keith Hernandez was born in San Francisco. You see the pattern here? Don't think La Russa and pitching coach Dave Duncan aren't aware of it. When they play host to the visiting Red Sox in Game 3 tonight, they will send Jeff Suppan to the mound. He will wear No. 37, the same number Hernandez wore. Soupie will tell you he is approaching this game from strictly a baseball standpoint, focusing on hitters, mechanics, pitch selection, etc., etc. But let's not kid ourselves. The mission is simple. Reverse the curse.

Id roll the dice with McNown over the other two. Arizona will play from behind at times thus giving him opportunities to throw for more yards...and Boldin will be back which will make their offense better in the 2nd half.

Cards score 11 runs tonight!!! Bills score 10 on Sunday