Like A Mofo

Funny thing is Id consider picking Gagne as the MVP over Beltre. There is noone on the Cards more valuable then Puljos IMO.

It would have only meant something if Puljos won the MVP...Im not totally buying this Beltre for MVP smokescreen by you

So Thurman Thomas had a great game EVERY Sunday??/ Please.

J.P Just Perfect!!!

Watching the game 1 thing came to mind on how to assess the Bills performance last night. Jim Mora and "Diddley Poo"

Here is my 2 cents: Id rather NOT see the Bills on MNF....I dont care if its Wednesday Morning Football, as long as the Bills are on I dont care about being on MNF, why does it mean anything to anyone in the satellite era?

I signed it..good post and good job Steve

They own us right now, just like we owned them for a good periiod of time in te late 80's/early 90's. Bills took a chance on Drew, it started well, Drew is a class act but it just hasnt worked out. Pats fans still seem to still like to $ati$fy themselves by mentioning Drew's shortcomings, acting as if Buffalo fans still think he is an elite QB.

My prayers are with you

Yep its over. JP is done, game was in the balance and he failed. Now Dallas will use our 1st round pick and he will be a megastar RJ > JP Everyone is billsfanone, we are moving to LA....Im a horrible human being....our defense is overrated...where GW???? Im done venting

Good post tmk and I was hoping to get there for the game, but I was unable to attend, I definately wanted to go to meet CNJBBB, R. Rich and Sid Buff. One of these weeks I vow to get there for a game!!! Let the Losman era start NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Couldnt agree more ICE. Listen, its just plain as day now we just arent even close to being in NE's league. Still LOTS of work to do, especially on defense too

Like it dosent take Einstein to figure that out. YES WE HAVE A BAD QB...happy????? GO find a Pats board

Back to reality to those here who were talking like this was the 1991 Bills. Lets face facts: THIS DEFENSE IS OVERRATED DREW IS STILL TERRIBLE GO ahread NE Trolls, get your jolleys off and come here and talk stevestojan. Wake me up in 2005, or when Losman starts a game.

Id love to predict an upset but I just cannot see it until Drew and the Bills defense proves otherwise on the road on a big spot New England 22 Buffalo 13

90 percent, Avg 9 miles 307 seconds...I almost got New Jersey wrong

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I wonder if these Pats trolls or Pats fans would even be registered here if their team still hadnt won a Super Bowl. My guess is they wouldnt and they feel a sense of superiority coming here to pile on the Buffalo Bills, hey, whatever gets you off. Personally I dont give a stevestojan about going to a Pats board.

The only thing that makes me nervous is a blowout. If the Bills win, obviously that would be GREAT, but if the Bills play well, lose 24-20, hey, its the Patriots....but if we lose 27-7....most of the momentum from the lat 4 games will be gone IMO. Bills MUST play well.

Pat Tillman Arizona State set to honor Tillman on Saturday By BOB BAUM, AP Sports Writer November 11, 2004 TEMPE, Ariz. (AP) -- Pat Tillman used to climb the light towers over Sun Devil Stadium to meditate. He was a fierce Arizona State football player and an honor student who graduated in 3 1/2 years. The school will honor the fallen hero, killed in combat in Afghanistan last April, and retire his No. 42 in a halftime ceremony of Saturday night's game against Washington State. Jake Plummer is scheduled to be among the former teammates who gather on the field for the ceremony, the second one at the stadium this season. The Arizona Cardinals retired Tillman's number at their home opener on Sept. 19. Tillman was the Pac-10 defensive player of the year as a senior in 1997, when he and Plummer led the Sun Devils to an 11-0 regular season and the Rose Bowl. Tillman, an academic All-American, graduated summa cum laude with a bachelor's degree in business. Undersized for a linebacker, he switched to safety and became a hard-hitting, overachieving member of the NFL's Cardinals, who play their home games at the university. ``I had a chance to meet for five seconds,'' Arizona State quarterback Andrew Walter said. ``Hopefully, I'll remember those five seconds forever.'' Tillman gave up millions of dollars in the NFL to join the Army Rangers following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He was killed, apparently by friendly fire, while on patrol in Afghanistan in April. Tillman posthumously was promoted to corporal and awarded the Silver Star, the Meritorious Service Award and a Purple Heart. ``We do our leadership meetings two days a week,'' Arizona State coach Dirk Koetter said. ``When I ask our players to give examples of almost any characteristic, no matter what the lesson is, Pat Tillman's name always comes up. He is off the charts in that respect.'' Plummer, who defied the NFL and wore a No. 42 decal in honor of his friend beyond the one game it was allowed, is able to come because his Denver Broncos are off this weekend. The school put out a call for all others who played with Tillman to join in the ceremony. Washington State's football team will join in the tribute. ``He's an American hero,'' Washington State coach Bill Doba said. ``We're going to honor the man, wear a 'PT' on our helmets to honor what kind of man he is. Win, lose or draw we'll be part of that.'' Members of Tillman's family will be on the field for the ceremony. The family has formed the Pat Tillman Foundation to promote leadership and public service. The university, Cardinals and the family also have established the Pat Tillman Memorial Scholarship. All who knew the blunt, charismatic Tillman agree that he would have hated all the attention that has followed his death. He refused to give any interviews after it was announced he would join the Army. Maybe it's appropriate, then, that the 20th-ranked Arizona State team, 7-2 overall and looking to finish undefeated at home, probably won't watch the halftime ceremony because of the task at hand. ``Pat wouldn't have wanted it any other way than for us to win the game first,'' Koetter said.

JoePa Is time finally running out for Paterno? By DAN GELSTON, AP Sports Writer November 11, 2004 STATE COLLEGE, Pa. (AP) -- The coaching legacy and goodwill that Joe Paterno proudly built for five decades at Penn State are slowly unraveling with each humbling loss. The days of scanning the schedule for gimme victories are over -- just ask Big Ten foes Purdue and Northwestern, which this season got their first wins in Happy Valley. Paterno hardly needs his thick, smoky glasses to see he's losing more than games: Thousands of seats at Beaver Stadium have been empty at recent home games, and Paterno is no longer impervious to the criticisms routinely reserved for coaches with lesser pedigrees or without reputations as community patricians. The message is clear -- and getting louder -- from the grumbling dissenters: Joe must go. Paterno, whose 341-116-3 record puts him second in career victories in Division I-A behind only Florida State's Bobby Bowden, is listening. Just don't expect him to decide his future based on the whims of fickle fans. `If you think that I am going to back out of it because I am intimidated, you are wrong. If you think I am going to stay when I think I am not doing a good job, you're wrong,'' he said. ``Those things have to develop, they have to evolve. Right now, I think we can get this thing done and do a good job.'' The numbers give little reason for hope. The Nittany Lions (2-7, 0-6) are the only Big 10 team without a conference victory entering Saturday's game at Indiana. They have lost six consecutive games, including a school-record tying three straight at home. Penn State has four losing seasons in the last five years and the senior class will leave having played in only one bowl game. When asked about his future, the 77-year-old Paterno often turns cantankerous, using his 55 years on the staff as a sense of entitlement to dismiss his critics. His determination (or stubbornness?), his unyielding belief (or hope?), and his four-year contract that will keep him on the school's payroll past his 80th birthday give little reason to expect anyone but the coach affectionately known as JoePa will be on the sideline next year. ``I am looking to get this program back to where it belongs and if I can't get it done in a certain amount of time, I have to sit back and say, 'Hey, turn it over to some other guy and can I help?' That is the way it will be,'' he said. And that time is? ``I haven't got the slightest idea,'' he said. ``I don't see any reason to say, 'I'm going to get out of here this year, next year or what year.' I don't mean that to be cocky, stubborn or anything like that. I am just trying to do what is right.'' What to do with the fading legend seems to be tearing at the conscience of the Penn State community. Has Paterno, who's donated millions to the school in addition to his football success, earned the right to decide his own fate? Or should university officials give him a nudge out the door? ``I think he'll never step down,'' said former Penn State defensive end Michael Haynes, now with the Chicago Bears. ``Right now we're having some issues, but it's still all fixable.'' A bronze statue of Paterno greets visitors to Beaver Stadium. There he is, looking spry, pointing toward the sky with his jacket flown open and tie whipped around as if hit with the wind of another brisk football Saturday. Engraved near a wall of plaques to the left of the statue is a Paterno quote: ``They asked me what I'd like written about me when I'm gone. I hope they write I've made Penn State a better place, not just that I was a good football coach.'' Those stories will certainly be written one day. But JoePa most certainly can't like what's being written now. One alumnus paid $350 to take out a half-page ad in the student newspaper's gameday edition which read: ``The talent's there. The coaching is an abomination. TIME FOR JOE TO GO.'' ``All I was trying to do was focus some of the dissent I'm hearing all over the place in a way people can see it and read it readily,'' said Joseph Korsak, who said he's been to every home game since 1967 except for a three-year stint in Ohio. ``A few have said it was too harsh, but the vast majority think it's time for a change. A lot of people have been more forgiving and say he should go out on his own terms. Whatever goodwill he's generated ran out at the end of the '02 season.'' The stadium holds over 100,000 people -- a small city, really -- and they want results or a new leader. Penn State athletic director Tim Curley, who gave Paterno the extension before the season, did not return repeated phone calls for comment. However, students are beginning to speak out. ``I think we need a new coach, but I don't think we can fire him,'' senior David Benson said. ``He's done so much for the university. But we need a change.'' A recent column in the student newspaper even suggested -- gasp! -- that Paterno is being selfish by staying. ``This season is simply about him proving to himself that he can do what he could 20 years ago. There doesn't seem to be a great concern for others,'' wrote junior Wade Malcolm. Paterno said he receives support from fans and former players who call and write him letters. And so far, he's has shown he can still recruit: His latest class was rated among the nation's top 20 by most analysts. Still, the losing has affected his confidence. ``Yeah, I get shaky once in a while,'' Paterno said. ``I would be less than honest if I told you I didn't. That doesn't mean that I lose faith.'' Junior guard Charles Rush said Paterno tries to maintain a family atmosphere to keep the team close. ``I wouldn't have expected to go through three losing seasons like I have,'' Rush said. ``For the football aspect, it's been kind of bad.'' Paterno publicly protects his players and assistant coaches from criticism, focusing on how everything would have been different but for a play here, a play there. His supporters worry an unwanted footnote -- he stuck around too long -- is being added to the JoePa's legacy. ``If he can't be remembered for his greatness, not only is it sad, it's disastrous,'' former Penn State broadcaster Fran Fisher said. ``It's disturbing to me to see some of the people I've talked to not be more understanding.'' Paterno says he's still coaching because he doesn't want to leave the team when it's down. ``I have never gotten into this thing for the glory or anything like that. I never have,'' he said. ``I don't need to take another trip around the track.''

Ditto

To all on this board who serve this country (USMCBillsFan) and to all others that I havent mentioned, God Bless you all and I defiantely appreciate your service to this great nation!

Man that would be sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!