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At this point, the way bozo Bettman and jerkoff Goodenow have run this sport into the ground, screw this league until BOTH of them are canned...they have failed MISERABLY....what disgrases.... You know what Buffalo natives and Sabres fans: Maybe this is best, let them get what they want, lets be honest already, most punks in the media dont like going to Buffalo in the winter already, they are all a bunch of babies. Let the Sabres get contracted, and let then enjoy watching teams in desert type conditions in non-hockey markets serving $u$hi at the games. Nice job NHL, keep it up you morons. Get an Amerks type team in Buffalo, THEN youll see good hockey, at a MUCH lower cost, and watch players play with HEART AND PASSION and not for $$$$$$$$$$$$$ instead of watching trap-filled hockey with a bunch of greedy owners and babies for players who complain about feeding ther dog like pretty boy Modano did!!! :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: NHL and the Players!!!!!!!!!

Lonnie Johnson Hands Down!!!

Ill take the over on that

I cannot believe there isnt a Schilling's Sock screenname created yet!

LAMP

Here is something interesting written in the New York Times by Murray Chass, talking about how the words steriods was omitted from his guaranteed contact. The Yankees knew what they were doing, before all you anti Yankee fans go off, Im sure this happenes everywhere. But the Yankees deserve to be ripped for this, they turned the other way just to get the guy they wanted. ON BASEBALL Contract Omission Says It All By MURRAY CHASS Published: February 11, 2005 GIAMBI did not fall on his sword yesterday. He did not say in crisp, clear tones, "Yes, I used steroids." But he didn't have to. He said enough to acknowledge that, yes, he used steroids. That came as no surprise to the Yankees. Not that they will acknowledge it. General Manager Brian Cashman, in fact, said several times yesterday that the subject never came up three years ago when the Yankees were pursuing Giambi, a free-agent first baseman. But they had a strong clue that steroids played a part in Giambi's life. A person with knowledge of the contract said that before they signed off on Giambi's seven-year, $120 million deal, the Yankees acquiesced to his request and removed all references to steroids from the guarantee language routinely included in contracts. The Yankees were not innocents in this matter. They didn't say to themselves: Delete references to steroid use? Well, all right if you insist, but why would you want us to do that? They wanted Giambi badly enough that they relinquished the right to suspend him or stop payment on the contract or terminate the contract or convert it into a nonguaranteed contract if he was found to use steroids. No other words were deleted from that paragraph of the contract, the person said. That act alone made it difficult for the Yankees to try to void the contract after The San Francisco Chronicle reported Giambi's leaked testimony before a federal grand jury on Dec. 11, 2003. A hearing into a Giambi grievance over the termination would have produced some tantalizing testimony. Union lawyer: Mr. Steinbrenner, before you approved a $120 million commitment to Mr. Giambi, did you have any idea or any suspicion that he used steroids? George Steinbrenner: Umm. ... Giambi was asked at a news conference yesterday at Yankee Stadium if he misrepresented himself when he signed the contract. Arn Tellem, his agent, answered for him. "Absolutely, unequivocally no," Tellem said. He didn't spell it out, but he didn't have to. The Yankees' action three years ago spoke eloquently enough. Their willingness to delete steroids demonstrated that they clearly understood Giambi's representation. The Yankees signed Giambi on Dec. 13, 2001. The Chronicle reported that he had told the grand jury that he used steroids during the 2001 season. He made sure his continued use of performance-enhancing drugs would not jeopardize his contract. Rob Manfred, Major League Baseball's chief labor executive, declined to comment yesterday on the guarantee language in Giambi's contract. "Whatever I know about that is privileged," Manfred said, referring to attorney-client privilege. Lonn Trost, the Yankees' chief operating officer, who handles the guarantee language in player contracts, declined to discuss Giambi's contract. But speaking generally, he said: "We have probably the most extensive guarantee language in professional sports; it contains many, many things. There's nothing in that agreement that isn't redundant. It's dealt with to make sure we're protected. Even if it was modified, you can be sure it was covered elsewhere." But if steroid use is covered elsewhere in the contract, the Yankees would have jumped at the chance to use the prohibition to terminate Giambi's contract and save themselves the $82 million they owe him over the next four years. They have had meetings with the commissioner's office, but no one has come up with a way out. Giambi and Tellem were careful yesterday not to give the Yankees help, just in case they're still looking. Giambi did not admit to having used steroids, and he did not confirm The Chronicle report of his grand jury testimony. But he did say he had testified truthfully. And although he criticized Jose Canseco for the assertions he reportedly made in his forthcoming book, Giambi did not question The Chronicle report. He said he hadn't read the article, but he knows what it contained. Otherwise, what did he apologize for? For those who wanted Giambi to fall on his sword and were disappointed that he didn't, Tellem, a Los Angeles lawyer, spelled it out. "He's doing the best he can and going as far as he can," he said. "He said he told the truth to the grand jury, nothing but the truth. He said he did things that he regretted and he's sorry for." Look at what Giambi said, Tellem concluded, and you'll find out that he said what some people wanted him to say. "He basically did say that," Tellem said. But Giambi didn't say anything that would hurt his legal position. A lawyer who works in baseball said the Yankees would have a difficult case if they tried to terminate the contract. For one thing, the lawyer said, steroids weren't illegal in baseball when Giambi used them. For another, the only evidence the Yankees have is a newspaper article, which would never make it into evidence before an arbitrator. The Yankees may revisit the matter later, especially if Giambi is hitting .210 with a handful of home runs in May. For now, though, the Yankees appear satisfied with Giambi's position. They feel he has been sincere and contrite in his discussions with them, and they only hope he can become the productive player he used to be, steroids or no. "Jason is a member of this family," Cashman said, "and we will do everything we possibly can together to help him try to get through it."

Link? Is this rumor?

I do agree with that, but to a point too...I do believe the salaries just need to come down across the board...IMO there is nothing wrong with the Torontos of the world enjoying some financial advantages over teams like the Sabres (and Im a Sabres fan mind you) Toronto earned that over the years, why cannot they spend a little more, they make more then Buffalo. But just ensure the competitive balance isnt altered, which, if you look at the NHL recently really isnt..the Rangers could do nothing with their high prices talent, now they wised up, got younger and cheaper...also make sure these smaller teams are spending too and not just being cheap like some MLB teams do.

I agree with f'ing off the players...but make no mi$take about it...the owners are part of this too....they deserve what they are getting as well...they overexpanded...they didnt help promote the game better....players yes, I hate them right now, but the owners and bettman just as much.

But the Eagles covered, isnt that the bottom line?

But the QB probably hit his feet about 55 of those times!!!

Another day: Another bleak update. Its over, now Im totally convicned, just end it already you morons! NHL Update 2/10/2005 The already bleak prospects for an NHL season have taken yet another turn for worse, possibly for the final time. Sources tell TSN talks between the NHL and NHLPA have broken off and that today's session was largely unproductive. At this point, it doesn't look as though any further negotiations are planned and it's quite probable that the deadline set yesterday by NHL commissioner Gary Bettman - he said they must be well on their way to writing up a new CBA on the weekend or the season would be cancelled - will come and go without any agreement.

I wouldnt be suprised if ESPN had a feature to just quit the game becaus emost of the punks they employ and put on the air dont like hockey and dont talk about it. :I starred in Brokeback Mountain: E$PN

Another thing: I cannot see JK openly ripping JP at this time....first of all JP does not have enough experience to draw up a accurate assessment, and secondly, why would JK say something that would annoy the team he played for???

It wouldnt be terrible to have a good saftey prospect in case a CB goes down and we can then slide Vincent back to CB and not take a huge hit at saftey, but I agree...Bills needs are higher at other positions.

How About The Patsies Trolls Center?

You want me, a Yankees fan, to rip Sheffield I will, this thread is about Giambi, not Sheffield right, or did I miss something when I read the thread title??? Sheff was a bozo too, he didnt know what he was taking? Please, that was a cop-out, and he would be ripped too...I have never beena big fan of Sheff anyway.

Thas why Im waiting till next Wed to play

I agree with you that he disgrased the game....here is one thing I was thinking about however: If the pitchers also take roids, and Im sure a good amount have or do, its makes them better too...does that somewhat cancel out just labling the hitters? Pitchers probably benefit from it too right?

Its a tough call, because there is no precedent in MLB for punishing players who use steriods..but Giambi does deserve some of the criticism he is and will get from now till the day he retires. Baseball does not really have much consistency with suspensions or punishing players, heck John Rocker was suspended MUCH longer for making comments in his SUV off the field then Roberto Alomar got for spitting on an umpire! Giambi cannot be viewed the same way, he just cannot, no way to get around that, even if you are a Yankees fan. As for a 2nd chance, I think everyone should get at least 1, but Giambi winning back his fans will not happen overnight.

Like this? Flava!!

Did Stoj start a thread this morning about TD coming up with suprises???

I dont believe this wack job raised $13 grand...its amazing by copying and pasting images and using various software programs, what wonders you can do by altering images, numbers etc.

Louisville is another team I would watch for...although they can be puzzling at times...as evidenced by their terrible play last night in a home loss to Memphis.