Kelly to Allen

The MVP race was over after Allens performance from KC to Detroit. Any other decision is basically a middle finger to Allen. And that's not sarcasm. Demeco Ryans is also part of the silliness and it's embarrassing

You can't have Josh Allen and not go to and win multiple Superbowls. It's a sign something is seriously wrong. Again, this is not hard. All the other great QBs in their first 5-8 yrs were going to multiple super bowls Staubach, Kelly, Bradshaw, Marino, burrow, mahomes, big Ben, aikman, young, Montana, Brady, Manning, tarkenton, frickin Neil O'Donnell.... Enough is enough It's unacceptable. It's also not mutually exclusive. We are enjoying this Allen era and simultaneously want what every other fan base got with a generational QB. Multiple super bowl appearances and wins. Allen is going to be entering his prime here in the next year or two. I fully expect 3-5 super bowl appearances by the time he retires and 2 world championships. I like McDermott, good coach, good man and I want him here for a long time. But it's time to start going to super bowls. It's honestly kind of embarrassing and ridiculous at this point. Even ppl in the media and KC fans are waiting for McDermott to hold his end of the bargain and to stop the silliness in the playoffs. The media is literally begging McDermott to stop screwing it up so Allen can play in some super bowls. We've already flushed one ring down the toilet. At a certain point enough is enough Matt Stafford has got to and won a ring before Allen. Burrow has been, hurts has been. Again this is embarrassing and I'm frankly getting very tired of it. I expect the bills to at minimum get to the super bowl. I'm picking them to win it. There's no reason they shouldn't. Unless McDermott and his defense can't force a single punt in the playoffs 6 forced punts in the past 4 elimination games is utterly ridiculous and atrocious. Get it done, no excuses

Not without Chris Jones and secondary issues. Especially with Pickens back. Watt and Herbig vs the KC tackles.... Will KC win? Probably. But this is going to be tough. Steelers got two starters back in the secondary too... Steelers are playing for the division and it's in Pittsburgh. This is going to be very close. Especially being a short week.

He's going to go off in the playoffs

We need Elam's athletic ability in the playoffs. But I'm not McDermott

Got a feeling buffalo is going to blow the jets out by halftime. As I said earlier, this is the playoff dress rehearsal game and a chance to lock up the 2. Rest everyone week 18 and prepare for our world championship 🏆 run

Douglas has given up a higher passer rating and has a lower pff covg grade this year. There was even more of a gap in the pff covg grade before the pats game. In fact before the pats game ( Elam did have a tough game vs the pats although it was nowhere near as bad as ppl say) Elam has almost an identical pff covg grade with McDuffie. Right now it's 67.5 Before it was 75, McDuffie is 78 McDermott clearly has a philosophical difference is my only guess because none of the eye test or data explain why he's not at minimum cb2 Again Elam rotated as a starter his rookie year. He had an excellent game vs KC, had a key int. He then had a down game vs Pickens but also had another int. At the end of his rookie year, he was absolutely our best cover CB and had a pff covg grade of 87, which was the second highest in the NFL Enter year two. Reports are he's having a solid camp but also Benford emerging and White is back to form. He then got hurt in camp and was later put on ir with a foot sprain He then returns healthy vs the Steelers and almost had 2 int, but is randomly not starting vs KC in the playoffs. Douglas limps around and is useless Enter year 3. From all kinds of different people Elam is reportedly having a great camp. I remember that it was reported he had 3 or 4 straight days with an int. Muki Hawkins has already stated that McDermott told him after camp that he needs to be ready for special teams....??? These are facts, it's not a narrative or opinion or whatever. I personally don't agree with it, we're seeing a real regression in McDermott's defense on 3rd down along with other concerns. The only rational explanation is McDermott has a zone philosophy bias and if that's the case just trade Elam in the off-season for whatever and don't make the same mistake again. Obviously in hindsight Gordon was the ideal pick.

You would need to make a compelling argument on why precedent should be broken the past two years

You can take Allen out of the equation even. Why would Lamar in this era have more MVPs than Mahomes??? Again it makes no sense

All the data and eye test says he is good. Idk what to tell you.

He's been number 2 this year when Douglas or Benford were out. I'm a Elam truther and think he's a legitimate starting cb

He faces man covg constantly because of the RPO and Henry. When he has to play traditional drop back QB and pass when teams know it, he has improved but he's not even close to Allen, Mahomes or burrow. This is why if we face them in the playoffs, we need to get a good lead to dictate the style of game. Exactly what KC did last year and buffalo did in 2020

It was a ***** show

I'd have no issues giving Lamar his 2nd MVP if he won a ring. Again nobody, not Manning, not Montana, not favre, not Unitas got their 2nd MVP until they won a championship. Multiple MVPs has notoriously in the NFL and NBA meant you are winning Rings. I wouldn't want Allen winning a 2nd MVP until he won the super bowl. Why? Because it's embarrassing. Or at least should be. I don't understand how you can be terrible in the playoffs but have multiple MVPs. That's never ever happened and doesn't make sense Literally everyone in legacy media after the hideous performance by Lamar in the AFC championship said Lamar is disqualified from any more real accolades and MVP until he gets a ring. For whatever reason everyone just forgot that Nick wright the troll has been the only honest media member about this.

He has to get to the super bowl imo. That's how I view it Reed dropped two critical 1st downs when buffalo was up 12-3.... Kelly only had the ball for 19 min

I agree. Heck was wood actually better than Jerry Ostroski? I don't know

I can't argue against that. Winning championships matter and if it's close I'm putting the 60s championship player above anyone else.

Yup. Reggie McKenzie made 3 all pro teams. That's awesome. I didn't know that Kelly was fine in SB 25 Kelly had Hof performance in the 90 playoff and 93 playoff. Beat Montana in 93, Marino in 90, 92. Elway in 91 but that was obviously the defense. I can't remember the numbers but Kelly vs the raiders in 93 had almost 300 yds, 3 tds, zero int and it was like -30 wind chill with wind and ice. It's one of the greatest bad weather playoff performances in NFL playoff history

My father said Reggie McKenzie was awesome too. So idk.

Nope. If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!!!... 😂

Was joe d better than Ruben Brown? I wasn't old enough to watch the electric company oline

I'm judging the defense in the playoffs.

Acho just said Allen is 1st team all pro. Yup

Jim Kelly / J. Allen Oj Thurman / J. Cook Butler Moulds Reed/ Shakir Kincaid / Knox Dawkins R. Brown Hull Joe D/ Torrence S. Brown Bruce Rousseau Oliver V. Miller Cowart Milano / T. Bernard Bennett C. Benford Winfield / T. Johnson Jones Hyde Christie Mohr Tasker Parrish I'm extremely bias towards the current bills team because I think they'll win a couple super bowls. Also Allen needs to at least get to a super bowl for me to 100% put him over Kelly. Kelly going to 4 Straight is insane and elite. Kelly is number 1, Allen number 2 right now