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What? You never watched "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea"? I just love standing in front of that giant picture window and watching the deep sea life cavort in the well lit ocean depths. Actually there aren't any UW to UW Nukes in service today. the last one went out of service years ago. The linked article isn't wholly accurate but it is close enough for Government Work. Survivability of the launching ship is one of many factors not mentioned that lead to the SubRoc's demise. The Sea Lance just sucked and advances in torpedo warhead yield, range, and guidance resulted in both systems becoming unnecessary. This site is a good primer on US Navy Torpedoes in use since WWII.

And where are both of them today? Hmmmm...

Check the link Dev provided. It may (or may not) be the source for this idea. The technology needed to set off large conventional (or Nuclear) explosions very deep underwater has been around since the 50's. I just doubt that the article is accurate. Using nukes in the manner described would create more problems than they would solve. (Extremely high yield conventional explosives are another story entirely)

Underwater Nuke Tests Read the deep water test section. And let's just say I'm not likely to believe a lot of what Pravda reported about Russian Nuke Tests in the 60's and 70's. Particularly in light of this. Fat Man & Little Boy They used a bomb 1.5 times more powerful to cap an underwater gas well? With no reprocussions?

I don't remember ever seeing anything official about the russians using suitcase nukes to cap underwater gas wells, I'm not saying they didn't but... Does anyone have a link to that info? The major problem here is that even a so called suitcase nuke creates one hell of a big explosion. A baby nuke, something as small as a 5 kiloton package, is still equal to 5000 tons of TNT. An explosion of that magnitude creates an interesting effect underwater. The explosion creates a vacuum bubble, essentially the water for "X" distance from the center of the explosion is pushed outward by the force of the explosion, creating a huge sphere of vacuum. But nature abhores a vacuum so when the force created by the explosion dissipates... And underwater shock waves are magnified by water pressure. Sea Pressure increases at 44.4 pounds per square INCH for every 100 feet of depth. Do the math.

I've got a few I can spare. PM me, I'll give you a real good deal...

Wow, I never knew there was a Spit & Polish requirement here on PPP... Oh Wait... That's just Tom Speak for I'm so much smarterer than you. Tom, you've really hurt me this time, you've cut me to the bone. In response I may have to follow you around using my new google-bot to point out the enormous volume of inaccurate male bovine animal excrement you spew on a daily, weekly, and/or monthly basis. Or I could just laugh and snicker behind your back...

Like you've never misquoted anybody...

Nope, none of that is pure snark, it's all thoughtful, well reasoned commentary, revealing your true position on current events, designed to nurture the spirit of reasonable, calm, and factual discussion which pervades PPP. I'm so sorry I misinterpretated your intentions...

Look again, we did draft both a QB and a LT. They're not the ones you wanted, obviously, but both positions were addressed.

500 to 1 this goes to PPP before page 2

As usual when you're not quoting the talking points from your latest Joe the Plumber e-mail all you can do is spout mindless snark. Tom was right, there is very little difference between you and George.

I'm curious. When was it that I shilled for a political party? I will freely admit to being on the "left" when you consider the makeup of this board but I'm nowhere near as far to the left as you are to the right. I agree, but I'm confused, how is that a bad thing? The last time I looked we were a nation with laws, which include the UCMJ. How big a dirtbag the accuser was is good for inflaming public opinion but means nothing in the light of the UCMJ. I've already given my feelings about whether or not there should have been a court martial in another post. If you think that was a "show trial" you know absolutely nothing about the military in general and the SEALs in particular. LOL!

While I completely agree with everything you just said, I was told many years ago; "If the accused is guilty they're better off in a Civilian Court. If the accused is innocent they're better off at a Court Martial." I firmly believe that to be true. "When the three SEALs chose not to have the matter handled administratively, Army Maj. Gen. C.T. Cleveland, head of Special Operations Command Central, decided to proceed to courts-martial." If the Navy had the option to handle this "In House" there most likely wouldn't have been a court martial. Unfortunately, some ground pounder got to make the decision...

So you're saying I should take him just as seriously as everyone takes George? I can live with that.

Could you possibly be a bigger partisan shill? Seriously, you're beyond even Wacka.

I don't watch TV so I don't know if the networks have been reporting on the trial of the Navy Seals accused of mistreating a terrorist, but the last Court Martial is over. There are several ways to look at this. I believe that this is proof that the the best of the best actually do adhere to the ideals on which our great nation was founded.

Which is different from you, (and conservatives in general) how?

If you can't hit what you're shooting at you shouldn't own a gun.

Bill, we all know that you firmly believe that there isn't a DB, RB, or WR worthy of a draft pick and the only place to find those type players is as Street Free Agents. But remember, Buddy said, before the draft, that he wanted a specific type of running back and CJ Spiller is the prototype of the Home Run Hitter at Running Back. So NO, I don't believe that the pick was a cynical "sell tickets" decision. I believe it was a solid, "Make the Buffalo Bills a BETTER Team" decision.

HUH? I'm going to get exposed for what I really am? DO-do DO-do DO-do DO-do...

Reading is FUNdimental!

What I said was (and is) that he seems to believe that people who hold a different opinion on the best way to achieve the same things he wants to achieve, obviously don't believe in the Constitution, Individual Freedom, and Self Determination.

I really don't know what the funniest part of your post is: Could it be the part where one of the biggest regurgitators of GOP Talking Points on this board accuses someone else of using "canned, useless, boilerplate liberal rhetoric?" Well, you are an expert on the conservative side of that subject so I guess you should be able to spot someone engaging in your favorite activity. Except that you FAILED again. Could it be the part where you claim "that people like myself have admitted our mistakes of our political past -- blindly following a party line with little or no accountability?" Yep, your posts clearly illustrate your ability to distinguish between party rhetoric and reality... Could it be the fact that you end by accusing me of something I never said? Nah, you've never done that before. Nope, the funniest part of your post is the fact that you seem to think somebody, somewhere is going to take you seriously. Not Today Blinky.

I'll have to plead a freudien(sp) slip on that one...