JP51

Really nice.. glad they put a solid amount of his community stuff in too.. consumate pro ... all the best 23

I think Ed can totally be replaced... an upgrade there would be nice.

Well, we agree that hopefully we can go all the way next year.. I am not sure where you are going with the FG in Houston, I would add the use of playcalling and Time Outs in the Rams game.. and of course the KC game.. I think what I am saying if we do the right things in both player personnel and game planning our future is bright... will that happen... remains to be seen..

This is and has been the problem... further its not like we havent invested draft capital there.. they just have been ineffective...

I am more worried it was less the injury and more the violence of the hit that derailed him... like is he gun shy, I dont know but I am interested to see him next year... I would expect solid progress from him... if not, then I will be concerned.

Wasnt quite as dire but did not forsee AFCCG I also think the future is bright if we do the right things...

Whats your vector victor lol

Good luck TD!

I honestly agree... I cannot see them going WR with no qb... I honestly have no idea where they go... they need a QB and I dont think Sanders is the guy.. Cam Ward.. I mean I dont know... not enamoured with the QB position.. they may go DE if they trade Garrett.

Yeah, I love Kupp, but we have receivers like him.. I think questionably he would be the best WR on the team interested to see how his knee holds up... but we would be investing a lot of resources into a player that we ultimately already have... and a dimension we already have covered.. so fine do it.. .but does that mean you dont go after a guy that can stretch the field.. and I am not talking some gadget really fast guy... a legit WR that can run the route tree and stretch the field.. and are you going to go after a game breaking DL... or DE... and are you going to improve your DB situation... if this trade precludes these things my answer is no...

as he should.. he can do something about it... we just watch.. and hope

They can lie all they want... and probably will... but the results will be the results.. and they will react to the results in a way that benefits them from a revenue standpoint regardless of what they say... I believe none of what they say... lol... half of what they do...

agreed they get the majority of their revenue from this... if viewership tanks this would be another leading indicator that there are issues as well as to a lesser degree the ticket prices.. although there can be a lot of reasons for that but multiple or confirming indicators you can be sure they will notice this means dollars and cents.. if it means that you have their attention.

You are right it doesnt hurt the league they are getting thier price on every ticket... what it does do is give a leading indicator on their sway on the fan... I would imagine they would not welcome this news for the future... I think they are only about money.. and if your demand is going down (not that it is necessarily), but if a leading indicator suggests demand down then you are concerned or watchful etc... I believe there may be a message in this or that they perceive one...

I agree this is a combo ... Beane's upper tier drafting has not produced the game breakers it needs too... simply functional players... leaving the D with C minus talent... not liking McD's approach to defense honestly as it really hasnt adapted and we have seen tremendous player regression for multiple players... this moves to coaching... mostly Babich, but McD as well...

Its clearly a pre requisite to our draft... Love these threads... I add zero value here LOL I am so not a draftnik, but I love getting the insight here, one of my favorite parts of this board...

He did regress... but honestly I wonder what we thought was gonna happen when we took out Hyde and Poyer ... and gave him no pass rush... I feel like you fix pass rush and Safety and he is a better player.. but I am clearly gonna be fine with an upgrade there... and quite honestly, I dont think there is even gonna be a debate.. I think he is outta here back to Green Bay...

I dont disagree... not at all

I aint gonna ping ya... they feed on each other, lock down 2ndry helps the pass rush and vice versa... in the end, I am more looking for a game wrecking DL because you cant throw away from him and they have more of an opporiunity to impact the game on a play to play basis... but what you say isnt wrong,,, I would just approach it different...

Lot of area's on D that need to be improved... but my main focus would be on a game wrecking DL either a DE or a 1T.. then play it out from there... the existence of a pass rush and a guy that blows sh(t up gonna help everyone... Do that and I would walk it back with Benford and Douglas.. now if Douglas goes ... then you gotta do something like you are talking about... just wonder if it isnt cheaper to retain Douglas?

Kind of half laughing lol... kinda not...

Indeed it was

Agree it's hard to evaluate when the over all talent is deficient. These are two things I am looking at 1. Player regression under babich the majority of players under babich have regressed some of them young... Oliver, Bernard, Epenessa, Jones, Douglas, I feel like Rousseau and Williams flat lined if not regressed and Milano clearly regressed but you have injury. Rapp and Hamlin their prior body of work was not enough to judge but clearly are not starting quality at the top half. Edwards regressed so badly he couldn't even stay with the team... but again injury. I have zero people improving in a substantial way under him. 2. Lack of game plan anticipation. This defense routinely spotted it's opponent 30 minutes of suckitutde before adjusting in the end half. Excellent on adjusting credit to babich. Zero anticipation regarding what the other team will do to you based on your weakness. Most teams don't have 17 and would not be able to spot other teams like that. Bonus take turnover differentials are not the same year to year with out them it looks alot worse

1) Josh Allen - No brainer 2) James Cook - Maybe yes, probably... in this system, if he takes his services elsewhere... I am going hmmmm maybe very good to excellent... elite.. not sure 3) Dion Dawkins - Elite wouldnt trade him for nothin.. even outside of his critical production an outstanding leader 4) Spencer Brown - I am fine with him in the upper tier.. elite.. that being said we have a bit of a definition disparity on elite.. like Elite should be at least like you are the best of the best... Justin Herbert, really good not elite... Stafford, Goff, Prescott... not elite... as an example... Jackson, Mahomes, Josh, Burrow, elite... 5) Benford- Very Good to excellent, not going with elite... or my definition of elite... see above... could he be I hope so... 6) Taron Johnson - Elite at his position yes. 7) Khalil Shakir - I would not put him in the elite category... 8.) Matt Milano - No. maybe elite ability. But, The best ability is availability... this precludes him from elite...to me To answer the over all question, and not to sound like a broken record... to win the Super Bowl I really believe we need a game wrecker on defense... an absolute menace...

He cannot always over come the softness that is this defense ... so its not only the allocation of resources, but it is the ineffective allocation of resources... Imaging if he only had to score 24 points to win a game not saying he cant or to win it all doesnt need to play better at times... but geez if he isnt the most valuable player to his team... I have no clue is...