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I honestly agree... I cannot see them going WR with no qb... I honestly have no idea where they go... they need a QB and I dont think Sanders is the guy.. Cam Ward.. I mean I dont know... not enamoured with the QB position.. they may go DE if they trade Garrett.

Yeah, I love Kupp, but we have receivers like him.. I think questionably he would be the best WR on the team interested to see how his knee holds up... but we would be investing a lot of resources into a player that we ultimately already have... and a dimension we already have covered.. so fine do it.. .but does that mean you dont go after a guy that can stretch the field.. and I am not talking some gadget really fast guy... a legit WR that can run the route tree and stretch the field.. and are you going to go after a game breaking DL... or DE... and are you going to improve your DB situation... if this trade precludes these things my answer is no...

as he should.. he can do something about it... we just watch.. and hope

They can lie all they want... and probably will... but the results will be the results.. and they will react to the results in a way that benefits them from a revenue standpoint regardless of what they say... I believe none of what they say... lol... half of what they do...

agreed they get the majority of their revenue from this... if viewership tanks this would be another leading indicator that there are issues as well as to a lesser degree the ticket prices.. although there can be a lot of reasons for that but multiple or confirming indicators you can be sure they will notice this means dollars and cents.. if it means that you have their attention.

You are right it doesnt hurt the league they are getting thier price on every ticket... what it does do is give a leading indicator on their sway on the fan... I would imagine they would not welcome this news for the future... I think they are only about money.. and if your demand is going down (not that it is necessarily), but if a leading indicator suggests demand down then you are concerned or watchful etc... I believe there may be a message in this or that they perceive one...

I agree this is a combo ... Beane's upper tier drafting has not produced the game breakers it needs too... simply functional players... leaving the D with C minus talent... not liking McD's approach to defense honestly as it really hasnt adapted and we have seen tremendous player regression for multiple players... this moves to coaching... mostly Babich, but McD as well...

Its clearly a pre requisite to our draft... Love these threads... I add zero value here LOL I am so not a draftnik, but I love getting the insight here, one of my favorite parts of this board...

He did regress... but honestly I wonder what we thought was gonna happen when we took out Hyde and Poyer ... and gave him no pass rush... I feel like you fix pass rush and Safety and he is a better player.. but I am clearly gonna be fine with an upgrade there... and quite honestly, I dont think there is even gonna be a debate.. I think he is outta here back to Green Bay...

I dont disagree... not at all

I aint gonna ping ya... they feed on each other, lock down 2ndry helps the pass rush and vice versa... in the end, I am more looking for a game wrecking DL because you cant throw away from him and they have more of an opporiunity to impact the game on a play to play basis... but what you say isnt wrong,,, I would just approach it different...

Lot of area's on D that need to be improved... but my main focus would be on a game wrecking DL either a DE or a 1T.. then play it out from there... the existence of a pass rush and a guy that blows sh(t up gonna help everyone... Do that and I would walk it back with Benford and Douglas.. now if Douglas goes ... then you gotta do something like you are talking about... just wonder if it isnt cheaper to retain Douglas?

Kind of half laughing lol... kinda not...

Indeed it was

Agree it's hard to evaluate when the over all talent is deficient. These are two things I am looking at 1. Player regression under babich the majority of players under babich have regressed some of them young... Oliver, Bernard, Epenessa, Jones, Douglas, I feel like Rousseau and Williams flat lined if not regressed and Milano clearly regressed but you have injury. Rapp and Hamlin their prior body of work was not enough to judge but clearly are not starting quality at the top half. Edwards regressed so badly he couldn't even stay with the team... but again injury. I have zero people improving in a substantial way under him. 2. Lack of game plan anticipation. This defense routinely spotted it's opponent 30 minutes of suckitutde before adjusting in the end half. Excellent on adjusting credit to babich. Zero anticipation regarding what the other team will do to you based on your weakness. Most teams don't have 17 and would not be able to spot other teams like that. Bonus take turnover differentials are not the same year to year with out them it looks alot worse

1) Josh Allen - No brainer 2) James Cook - Maybe yes, probably... in this system, if he takes his services elsewhere... I am going hmmmm maybe very good to excellent... elite.. not sure 3) Dion Dawkins - Elite wouldnt trade him for nothin.. even outside of his critical production an outstanding leader 4) Spencer Brown - I am fine with him in the upper tier.. elite.. that being said we have a bit of a definition disparity on elite.. like Elite should be at least like you are the best of the best... Justin Herbert, really good not elite... Stafford, Goff, Prescott... not elite... as an example... Jackson, Mahomes, Josh, Burrow, elite... 5) Benford- Very Good to excellent, not going with elite... or my definition of elite... see above... could he be I hope so... 6) Taron Johnson - Elite at his position yes. 7) Khalil Shakir - I would not put him in the elite category... 8.) Matt Milano - No. maybe elite ability. But, The best ability is availability... this precludes him from elite...to me To answer the over all question, and not to sound like a broken record... to win the Super Bowl I really believe we need a game wrecker on defense... an absolute menace...

He cannot always over come the softness that is this defense ... so its not only the allocation of resources, but it is the ineffective allocation of resources... Imaging if he only had to score 24 points to win a game not saying he cant or to win it all doesnt need to play better at times... but geez if he isnt the most valuable player to his team... I have no clue is...

Standing Buffalo... settle for nothing less.... and the Red helmet was brought in cause Fergy threw too many interceptions... lol... so not liking the Karma there... LOL

Ya know, Im tired a standin in line for bars I'll never get in, its like the bottom of the 9th and your never gonna win...

I think yes he gets a new contract... I also think yes... he is one of those Kelly types... he seems to be loyal and loves the people and the team... but I do think that if we screw him around on the contract then its not going to be kumbaya with him... no one wants to feel like they are being taken advantage of... If he is in the top 4 QBs in the league and getting paid like a mid tier he is probably gonna have an issue... but in the end... Beane, McD and even Pegula know where thier bread is buttered... and Allen is holding the butter knife...

Over analyze, Over react, pay too much attention to rumors, read the 831 iterations of the mock draft, and probably hit my bourbon stock aggressively... and fish.

Better... because you go back to life... and life as much as it consumes us sometimes isnt football...

Agreed here... I think the defense needs to be re imagined... the concept of spotting a team 30 minutes and adjusting to moderate improvement at half time isnt good enough, I was less than impressed game to game with the lack of anticipation from Babich regarding what the opposing offense was going to do to exploit our flaws.. he adjusted well at half time but someone needs to anticipate from the get go what their offense was going to do and that didnt happen... Additionally, the regression of the individual player... Oliver, Jones, Bernard, Douglas, Epenesa, and the stagnation of others like Rousseau makes me wonder if the scheme didnt fit the players, or Development was not effective... thats a lot of players some of the Veteran Young... that should be improving... To me this makes me see through the well our players werent good on defense (which in some regard is true especially at Safety) and that is the problem... to say yes.. there is truth there... but the coaching was also not acceptable.. just MO

To me priority 1 is a game wrecker on D... and that can be a stud pass rushing DE... or a Wide Body 1T that gets penetration and blows it up at the LOS... either also probably make Ed Oliver more effective... he will never be an All Pro superstar but he is not big enough to handle double and sometimes even single teams... After that there are so many areas of need Safety play Must be upgraded this year... it really wasnt good enough... I would like a corner better than Elam to be able to step in assuming we sign Douglas... I will say if you get priority one.... especially a DE the DB play improves simply because of the pass rush which was pretty much a failure this year at least on a consistent basis... If you go 1T it may favor our smallish LBs in the run game... Game breaking receiver awesome do it. Help Josh all you can.. but in the end... if there was only one thing I could do that really improves this team to me is an absolute monster on the DL either 1T or DE... that is the molding that covers the flaws... and improves the over all team the most IMO... That may just be the final piece we need...

I think the LBs may look much better with you 1, 4 and 5....