JP51

Here is the other thing... If you ever had a chance to play an aggressive defense, its when you have an offense that scores at will... what they are doing isnt working... if they beat you they beat you... let them do it in 2 minutes not 7.... cause they are beating you anyways... we literally forced the least punt on defense in the entire league tied with Carolina... that is atrocious.

I know but literally its all I got for keeping him... so there you go LOL but for the most part you are right, I have seen situations where knowing the system is helpful.. but bottom like is he knows it but cant execute it.. This is disturbing... and I did notice Buffalo Joe looked really bad yesterday... always seemed to be out of position. I honestly did not notice him... and with that defensive performance that is a really good thing.

Yeah, I dont think Dane is long for this team... at best PS incase we have a major issue... Hamlin is just not a good saftey.. he knows the system... but we need an upgrade... I havent seen Forrest play.. I heard Hancock was being looked at as a saftey, bottom line is our DBs are not good... Iike to the point that you are thinking hmmmm... is Poyer an upgrade LOL whats Ronnie Lott doing now a days... can we get AJ Klein out of the RV and convert him to saftey... LOL... 🤣

I would go further... our secondary is just terrible (including our LBs in coverage) he is part of the problem.

Parsons, Hutchison, Garret or Hendrickson...

I literally said that above... I never thought I would long for the days of Leslie Frazier... but this guy is an abomination...

after last night I am like do whatever you need to get him... lol before I was like no way... too much money, too many assets... but jeez... we need to do something... FTLOG lol

This team need to learn to tackle now...

Love the gumption here... keep saying it and eventually you are gonna be right... its like a free play lol... say it wrong... disappear. Come back say it again disappear, say it be right come back as the omnipotent prognosticator of life... great no risk gig! ps: nice to hear from you

Ok so I am here... I get it is only pre season... I get that the defense is vanilla, I get our starters or some of them havent really played... I get that they don't game plan for preseason.. and mostly, I get that the results of the game don't count... but in some respect matter.... If I saw a competitive game where we lost.. then yeah, whatever... but when I watch pre season, I am looking for a couple of things.. 1. Who are the players that we brought in ( especially thru the draft) that pop... every team has them... the ones that you look at and go this guy gives us hope for the future, hope that we are upgrading our talent... not polished yet, but hey we got some one here. 2. That there is some level of change to a defensive unit that was legitimately bad, that a 2nd year coordinator learned some lessons and improved that maybe )see point 1) that those people that we invested all that draft capital in were going to help us... That maybe the pass rush improved, that maybe we wouldn't get gashed on the ground for 6 yards a pop, that maybe we would have someone within 30 yards of their best receiver on the field as if he actually mattered... maybe we could get off the field on 3rd down . not give up 3rd and long, understand that the soft zone coverage was soul sucking... What I saw was... no one and I mean no one on defense actually made a play. maybe Hancock.. no one even against Bears back ups pressured the QB, and those players we drafted, Jackson, Walker, Sanders showed me close to nothing against Bears backups, Hamlin and Bishop looked like keystone cops doing a fire drill we were hoping Bishop would progress even a little, the fact that Hamlin is still there is disturbing... wrong angles, bad tacking was rampant, and simply getting blown off the ball with very little penetration, gap integrity or disruption was rampant... we made Beasant look like a top 10 qb in this league... I saw no change from last years scheme, I saw the same gashing on the ground, the same bad tacking, the same soft zone, the same lack of pass rush, the same giving up 3rd and long etc.. I saw nothing that Babich did to show me that he learned some lessons... and I saw it two weeks in a row against two bottom feeding teams... Panic, no put 100% stock in it, no... call the season and the players a bust, no... but call it what it is... I see no signs of improvement, no signs that we have actually drafted players that are going to upgrade us especially on the D Line, no Free agents like Hoecht or whomever that are coming to save the pass rush, no signs that we have improved out horrific DB situation... maybe there is and i am missing it... but I sure as sh$t haven't seen it... what does that mean... well we wait, we see, we hope, but it just became very difficult to feel good about that hope realistically... things change, maybe this is all bunk, but from where I stand... my hope for improvement is pretty dim... time will tell.

You can't it looks like the same old same old weak scheme no gap penetration, no pass rush soft coverage by calling minus dbs small line backers who get run over and a DL that is just the little bitc# of anyone that lines up in front of them why babich is here is beyond me I never thought I would long for Leslie Frasier but man ...

Good lord put White back in... or just punt on 1st down

My issue was with babich. If what you saw last year and for as unrealistic as it is the pre season is good to you then ok . To me what I saw last year and the similar scheme I see this year it isn't no more no less

Ok.. but its still the same old same old.. No pass rush, 7 yards on first down running, horrific pass coverage, and they walk up and down the field at will. The backups against their back up look like our starters against other starters. I question the defense and its co ordinator at least as much as the players so we can analyze the quality of backups and compare but the defense and result looks exactly the same . I truly understand your point but mine isn't really about the players its about their coach

Agreed we keep saying but its our back ups we'll its theirs too this defensive scheme and output seems the same to me... bleed your soul kiss your a$$ kicked watch them score grab your ankles and say thank you sir can I have another ... so i call it the thank you sir can I have another defense

Yes but they will also be counting on Babich and he has changed nothing this is a problem

He has got a ways to go to get to mediocre

Or literally not putting anyone within 15 or last play 30 yard of the best receiver on the field this isn't just the players

Hey I am just getting into game rant shape lol 😆

They are an embarrassment to themselves, football, their families and to anyone who has ever worked at a job in the history of humanity you literally have to try to be this bad... Probably could have saved words and just said... they look like the Sabres of football... lol

Hey its preseason for us too. Just getting into game shape lol

Well as of now he has a lot of making up to do to get to marginal nfl starter but yes we need to wait but no its looking like bust right now

I agree was hoping they would be players they seem to be like every other DL that we ever drafted pushed around uninspired strikes fear into the heart of no one

Maybe i tend to think we are seeing the same old defense we saw last year soft no coverage terrible saftey play no pass rush give up big 3rd downs and genuinely uninterested in stopping any one ever.. backups have learned well

Uhm maybe just get the ball and punt... you end up better off