JP51

Totally... its not like he was Aaron Maybin and totally incapable... he had the tools.. not that I relish him screwing things up cause I dont, I feel bad for him in a way that he made his choices as he did... but now I feel worse for the people who have the misfortune of having to deal with him. The whole thing is kinda sad really...

Wish I had great advice.. its gonna be gridlock for a while after the game if you are staying till the end obviously if you get in private lots closer to 20 then that helps as long as you dont mind a bit of a walk... other option is bring hot dogs and fire up the grill for an hour LOL and take off Monday, its gonna be a late night.

Looking for hopeful reasons... just interested in why you think Baltimore is in a world of hurt?

Seriously I am in the same place.. if this kid isnt literally 100% sit him.

Really drives home what kind of a deal we got on Allen, although I suspect he will be re done at somepoint.

I agree, it does not... it gets cold but this is feel your nose hair when you breathe cold... I hope it affects him... I just dont think it is going to be a major factor. Doesnt mean we dont win... I just dont see a crippled or ineffective Lamar because of the cold. But we are gonna find out in a few days... just know I am cheering for you! Would love to eat this crow...

Honestly thanks for the effort here.. but lets just beat Baltimore and hope we can worry about the AFCCG

Not trying to play doctor here but from a fans point of view... that was not an average concussion where the guy is dazed and trots off the field into the blue tent... they were literally helping him into the locker room and he wasnt under his own power... seemed like a pretty severe head injury to me. I would be shocked if he cleared concussion protocol for this game. But I guess we are going to find out.

Baltimore can get you on offense in every possible way... passing game, Derek Henry bashing you and Lamar scrambling... I am fairly certain that the Ravens are gonna move the ball... so my keys to victory are simple... Bills offense controls the ball and scores TDs... Bills defense limits the big play and forces field goals... winning the turnover battle will be enormous. It can be done... we have done it all season... we need to do it Sunday.

Or Shavers... but you are probably right there.

Hey I hope it is a factor... I just think it wont be... now... if there were more winds involved then I would say that would be a bigger deal as Josh has the much stronger arm... but the cold... I guess we are gonna find out and I will be cheering hard for you to be correct.

LOL... so I have made one sports bet in my life... I was in Vegas... for work actually and we went to the sportsbook to watch the Dolphins Bills Monday night game... Drew Bledsoe was the QB... and before the game I put 20 bucks on the Dolphins... my thinking was I would happily take this 20 dollar bill and burn it on LVB if the Bills win... and if they lose I get 20 bucks.... well the Dolphins were ahead I think like 17-7 and we favored by three... like 10 seconds left with the Bills on the 5 yard line looking to score a meaningless TD... and I am like dang the point spread... not only are the Bills gonna lose, but I am gonna lose my 20 bucks too if they score! The despair was intolerable... so the one and only time I rooted my a$$ of for a red zone incompletion for the Bills like I had a Miami hat on... I was so happy the ball got broken up... and I won my stupid 20 bucks lol... Decided that this was way too much stress to add on to a Bills game ... never did that again...

Yeah I heard that but honestly see no advantage one way or the other... it gets cold in Baltimore too... and they play the Browns, Steelers and Bengals in their division... we shall see if it effects him... maybe it does... I hope it does... but I am not betting on it.... if we beat em I think it will be its because we were better than they were on all fronts.

New England gets a 3... Dont forget Willis MaGahee....

I know I saw Carnel Lake's son last night too ... like geez

He looks like a bada$$ crushing people too... lets hope he does that on Sunday.

No this is fair, I think I was looking at when the playoff teams from each conference went head to head... but I did do some back of the envelope stuff when I looked and it looked similar to me... like we were 1 and 1 I think Eagles fared really well... so I think the numbers bear out. Not gonna lie, I was surprised by them.

and Nate Clemons ... saw Winfields son playing and felt old... lol

So there is the link! Its all Moormans fault LOL 🤣

yeah that would up the sting a bit...

I think my issue with the whole thing is the concept of the player most valuable to his team... clearly this is Josh, I think if you took out Lamar and Josh for the season the ravens have more wins. So, if it is going to be based solely on stats... take that part out and make it the MVSG most valuable stat guy... or the passing leader or TD leader etc... but in the end... I really just want a superbowl... so they can pick who they want...

Agreed he look like his hair was on fire and his a$$ was catching a lot that game... and the one before.

So truth is I would not have expected this outcome... thank you for that... I am just wondering... seems like a lot of bad teams in the AFC I believe they have 6 of the bottom 7 in the league in draft order... seems like a lot of have and have nots... I wonder (and no I am not gonna look it up LOL...nor am I asking anyone to I am just wondering) what the W/L ratio is between conferences amongst games between playoff teams... I wonder if that tells the tale...

That indeed would be a nice consolation prize for sure...

And I think that is exactly where he goes if the Browns dont offer him more cause they take another RB 1st... lol what would be funny is if the Jests made a play for him... I can only imagine this board... 🤣