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I feel that I'm obligated to push for this pick to happen because of how much I was in favor of actually getting Metcalf. Can't deny the metrics and the measurables. I hope we get him

If I change my username to TSW Poll would I have the final say for our pick? 🤔

BNP- Best Need Player? VLC- Very Logical Choice? 🤔

The acronym for this thread is FART 🥸 I didn't have much else to contribute... I'll see myself out now

We walk away with both of them and I think it transforms the defense immediately. That would be a pretty damn good starting point for a top tier defensive line for years.

I personally would like him back and I still would like a WR drafted. While we have been looking for complimentary pieces for this particular offensive scheme, I think we still need to stockpile for when that isn't the case. On avg we switch coordinators every other year and I don't think Brady will be here beyond next season if he fields another top 3 offense (which is highly likely). Let's maximize everything we can now and have something worthwhile for the next coordinator to utilize when they implement their offense.

I just started doing these yesterday. They're addictive but on my 2nd go around I went: 30. Kenneth Grant DL Mich 56. Landon Jackson Edge Ark 62. Elic Ayamanor WR Stan 109. Denzel Burke CB Ohio St 132. Jared Ivey Edge Miss 169. Jaylen Reed S PSU 170. Trevor Etienne RB Georgia 173. Chase Lundt OT UConn 177. Jackson Hawes TE Ga Tech 206. Kobe King LB PSU

This counterpoint (while understandable) basically continues to move the goal post though. It instead needs to be absorbed into the mindset of what was already established. Going into '24 we jettisoned both our #1 & #2 WRs while taking some dead cap medicine immediately. The logic was that it would be a soft reset to gear up for this year offensively. We undoubtedly needed to get a prospect (most wanted at least 2) and we would look to add a FA weapon this year. Nobody anticipated to depend on Shakir, a hopeful ascension of Kincaid and a rookie. Yes last years offense worked exceptionally well but we still need upper echelon weapons aside from Josh who is a generational qb and makes any offense hum. The defense has had steady investment (25 picks since we acquired Josh, 11 in the last 3 years + FA acquisitions). We spent half of last years draft on it to address the same issues we've always had with it. We are long overdue on making sure Josh has what he needs. We essentially only gave him Diggs and a handful of hope. Supply him with the top tier weapons when available while retooling the defense (even though the scheme is primarily the issue).

This is a spot on summary. When it's all said and done there are compelling points to be made in favor of either acquisition. Nobody is wrong in why they feel as they do. Great discourse nonetheless

This is basically why I'm slightly more in favor of DK at the moment. If we turned the reigns of the defense over to someone else to implement a more effective scheme (i.e. Fangio with the Eagles) then it's Garrett no question. This scheme has never shown to be championship level in todays game. It relies on the secondary to produce coverage sacks when in reality the opposite is what is needed and proven to be effective. We would have to add arguably 3 or 4 players for it to get to a consistent level of effectiveness instead of being highly opportunistic. DK seems like an ideal fit for this offense and more than likely transcends with any offensive scheme changes sure to come soon (Brady might be gone in another year). Either way I hope we get one of the premium guys

There is some nuance to the bolded sections that better represent why some are of the mindset of securing the offensive playmaker. 1. There's only one piece to go get on the offensive side. That one piece directly amplifies Josh's potential and efficiency during his prime. We will never get another Josh and I'm all for giving him top notch weapons to work with. DK is basically square peg to square hole. 2. Because it is only one piece, you can essentially toss almost every other resource into the defense this year and next honestly. 3. Yes the defense needs a pass rush but the scheme plays a big role as does personnel. We need almost an entire overhaul of the front 4 save maybe Rousseau. To use the Eagles success defensively is somewhat distorted because they had the luxury of acquiring 2 top 10 DT prospects in consecutive drafts while being a playoff team. This was after acquiring a top 10 WR prospect in addition to adding a top 10 WR in the league via trade. That's basically unheard of and will probably never be emulated again. But I am all for addressing the defensive side of things too, just let me stop at the store and grab this prototype WR right quick.

For those that complain about Beane so much and look at say a Howie Roseman as the blueprint are as contradictory as they come. They would've treated him the exact same way and wanted to run him out of town (he was largely hated in Philly for years). I'd argue that he has been worse than Beane with first round picks (drafting in general) during his comparative tenure(2017-now) and has had the luxury of not having to build up a team while in direct competition with 2 dynasties; as bigger contributions to how he is viewed. He also lucked into 3 top 15 picks (2 in the top 10) over the last 5 seasons as a playoff team or even winning their division. You give that to Beane and he'd be looked at as the top GM in the game too. Feel free to go look it up. Also look at his draft history from 2010 and on. This board would've shut down if Beane used a first round pick on a firefighter for an offensive lineman in his 2nd year. He has maybe 6 or 7 worthwhile 1st rounders to his credit since 2010.

If we have a shot at DK we have to go for it. We are a cusp contender for the entirety of Josh's prime and we don't really have the luxury of not going for game changers anymore on either side of the ball. We also have proof of concept with Josh paired with an elite WR and DK checks literally every box of the prototype #1 for him. I absolutely would love one on defense but I also believe that we need an entire scheme change in addition to players to get to an effective let alone championship level. By all means still draft and retool the defense but the offense is actually closer to being put over the top with an acquisition. I'll be ecstatic with Garrett or Crosby to be clear but get DK if you can

I'm 6ft 230lbs and I haven't even started my off season conditioning of continuous happy hrs and buffets I plan to measure in at 6'3 245 at the combine I could probably watch games during the season at 250 but I don't want to take away from my speed

I would make the argument that an upper echelon DT impacts the pass rush which potentially stops drives; which in turn gives our already potent offense more opportunities to score. We severely need that in general let alone against KC. I know your point speaks to playoffs but there were about 5 games during the season where 20-25 points wins against them. We are constantly forced to get into a shootout with them because we barely make them punt. This is coming from a guy in full support of upgrading weapons for Josh