RJ (not THAT RJ)

Well put!

When you are done preaching, could you please pass the relish?

Oh, I am not seriously advocating him... I am reveling in his catastrophic epic failure, as I do with all ex-Bills.

Oh my yes..... and how about Romo's great play there! Wade has that "befuddled" look we all remember so well.

... in about an hour and a half, if Ralph wants to call him. I am an angry and bitter man, but the collapse of the Cowboys has almost brought a smile to my face on this bleak afternoon.

Why not just say they were saving time with the wind? It will make you happier....

Did the Bills actually knock down a pass intended for Welker!!!!!?!!!

high wind in his face, I bet

Ugh. Thanks... and to you, Dan! and to the rest of you guys... gotta love the community spirit!

what happened for those of us with no visual?

I hear you, Dawg, but it is all just more stupid posturing by Internet tough guys who think they can say whatever they want.

Cody, I agree with the desire to end the suspense... but at the same time we all need to face one unpleasant reality: IF the Bills leave Buffalo (which is, thankfully, not a sure thing), there will never be another NFL team in WNY. Never. So, be careful what you wish for.

You make a lot of good points, Ramius, but I have to say that your conclusion does not add up for me. I wanted to believe that JP could be good as well, but frankly his last two performances have overdrawn the sympathy bank. At the most basic level of field awareness and good sense, he simply does not have it. We can talk all day about whether he would have had it if he had started consistently since 2005, but that is beyond moot. It is, after all, not unimportant to remember that part of the reason why he has not started consistently since 2005 is that, for one reason or another, he was unable to gain and hold the confidence of two head coaches, three offensive coordinators, and a few QB coaches. One could argue about the relative abilities of those coaches as well, but even then, the fact remains he was unable to gain and keep the confidence of people who saw him in practice, who watched him on film, and who actually had a vested interest in his success. Even the criticism of the play Sunday betrays the sad truth about JP. The problem with the call, so many people (including yourself, if I don't mistake myself) say, is that it was wrong to put the game in his hands. In the hands of a 5-year veteran who should have learned something by now. A more crushing indictment of JP as a QB is hard to find. I also agree he seems like a very nice kid. I wanted him to succeed, and would be pleasantly surprised if he did someday. But I just do not see that happening.

Rep-u-tation.

I am sure he does not know that.

Lori, you are fighting the good fight, providing perspective against the masochistic self-hatred that is spreading among Bills fans. Excelsior!

McNabb has had some good years, and has also labored with some mediocre supporting players and intermittently horrible play-calling from his coaches, but as someone who has lived in Philly for the past 5 years I am having a hard time getting terribly enthusiastic about him coming to B-lo. He has shown signs this year of wearing down in between good performances, and often looks pretty worn out. Furthermore, these mid-to-late-career QB shifts rarely pan out as much as the new teams hope. For every Norm van Brocklin or Jim Plunkett there are a lot of Drew Bledsoes, Daunte Culpeppers, and Niel O'Donnels. I think a vet backup is a good idea, but McNabb does not fit that role, IMHO.

Sorry, hyperventilating prose notwithstanding, you are off base. Does defense win championships? Sure it does, though it helps to score more points than the other side. The Bills stifled Brett and the Farts in the second half, and were brought down by their offensive play calling and QB. The Dolphins only scored 16 points; the Cleveland game came down to a made 55-yard and missed 48-yard field goal. The Bills D has weaknesses, as do many other defenses. But pretending that they are the worst in the league only reflects the kind of bizarre reverse narcissism that has infected this board over the past few weeks.

He's not interested in actual discussion... this was another one in a series of LAMPs in which people go out of their way to say how bad the Bills are, how they will always be bad, etc. etc. Must be some sort of catharsis thing. I haven't seen such overheated hate for a team from its fans since the Sabres adopted the Slug.

Perhaps Noone is a place. A place where they do not speak English, and use words like "wron." A place suffering from an epidemic of Internet Tourette Syndrome, where they know nothing of football. A place no one should want to go, or be from. Because that would be wrong, er, wron.

You kids just don't appreciate classic beauty.

He also tried a version of the across the field pass against Jax later in the season.... ugh.

Dierdorf and Gumbel tried real hard to sell that, but none of their replays showed the hand that was supposedly the cause of the penalty.

That may be true... but this defense held the Jets without a single first down in the fourth quarter. It takes real skill to blow a lead while doing that.

especially not against the Farts.