RJ (not THAT RJ)
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The week they righted the ship after a terrible game in Miami, and began to put to rest memories of the Bickering Bills...
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Knox was a great coach but his teams (in LA and BUF especially) also had a bad habit of coming up flat at random times, and of having no luck in the playoffs.
The 1980 team was great, but twice collapsed against the Colts and also against the Falcons at home--a win in any of those games, and they would have been hosting a playoff game.
The 1981 team had horrific collapses in New York, Dallas, and St. Louis and blew an 11-point fourth quarter lead in Cincinnati, as well as a dismal performance in the season finale in Miami. It was as if something was missing in the team's character that kept them from getting higher when they had a chance to take that next step.
The total fold after the 1982 strike was a back-breaker all around. (Many other franchises struggled to get it back together that year.) Knox lost the team in that last month, and whatever disagreements he had with Ralph on an extension were a convenient reason to go somewhere else and start over. Stevenson was young and inexperienced. He inherited an aging team that nonetheless started well only to collapse in the second half of 1983 under the weight of age and injuries and contract drama around Joe Cribbs.
And that was it until the Arrival of Jim Kelly
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He might find out that other teams are occasionally called for holding.
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20 hours ago, Augie said:
If you draft a black QB to replace your black QB, can it really be racist? Or is it really just picking the position where the player is most likely to help the team? Marlin the Magician was a better WR than he was a QB. Keep it simple is my motto. Their is nothing to support racism here (not that it did NOT exist then or now).
The Bills drafted Harris before trading for Briscoe. Both were then dumped by Lou Saban as soon as he became coach of the Bills. That's where one can see the racism.
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9 minutes ago, Green Lightning said:
I was there for those games. It wasn't just the race stigma, it was the mobile QB stigma. If they would have built the offense around Briscoe's talents, he would have been Lamarr but it just never occurred to them. An amazing talent before his time. Even then, a great receiver and fun to watch. Harris had it all, size, big arm, I don't remember him being all that mobile. He wasn't an EJ.
Harris was a big man, 6'4" and 200... prototypical QB size, which is why he, unlike many other black QBs (such as Marlin B or even Tony Dungy), was able to resist being turned into a WR or DB. Out of Grambling, he was groomed for the NFL, but was a bit too soon. Doug Williams was his clearest heir at Grambling and in the NFL.
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Marlin Briscoe believed Lou Saban was responsible for him losing the QB job in Denver on the basis of his race, and there is evidence. He had success one season at QB in Denver, then when Lou was hired, Marlin was not even invited to the QB meetings at the first training camp, then was traded to Buffalo. Then when Lou shows up in Buffalo in 1972, the first things he does is dump both Marlin (traded to Dolphins) and James Harris. Briscoe responded to the trade by lashing out at Saban. This led to the situation in 1972 when Lou had to rely on sore-armed Dennis Shaw, and then when he was inevitably ineffective, to turn to such titans of the pivot as Mike Taliaferro and Leo Hart at QB. They stunk, but they were the right color for Lou. When the Bills traveled to LA in 1974 to play the Rams, even OJ commented on how shabbily James Harris (who was then starting for the Rams) had been treated.
Saban was a fine coach in many ways, but this is a (pun intended) black mark on his career. That and his psychotic Wanderlust.
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10 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:
There was no Philip Rivers the year Elway came out either. The next QB picked was Ken O'Brien at #24. And yeah, Elway had the theoretical chance of going to baseball instead but he was never likely to do that.
These guys can take a year off and try again. It's not total control by any means, but it's leverage.
The next QB picked was Jim Kelly. That 1983 draft also had Todd Blackledge, Tony Eason, and Dan Marino. It was in all the papers, you can look it up. ?
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18 hours ago, bbb said:
I'm pretty sure those would not have been the divisional round.
Well, each of them were at home, and each were first (or only) round losses. Just a historical perspective on the need for some humility, even in the face of Baltimorean Assholia.
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4 minutes ago, njbuff said:
The Bills have NEVER lost a divisional playoff game at home.
So if Buffalo is a city of losers, what's that make Baltimore?
Just sayin
Len Dawson says hello... as does Mark Brunell. Heck, so does Gino Cappelletti.
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2 hours ago, matter2003 said:
Me either...usually there is one each on Saturday and Sunday.
It is new. I wonder if they did this so that everyone in the conference has the same number of days off. Or maybe they will just jumble it back up the following week and only did this so the Patriots would play in prime time...
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I was watching the game in Jimmy's Woodlawn Tap on 55th street in Chicago, where I had just moved to start grad school. Went through two pitchers of Old Style and a pack of Marlboro Reds. When the kick sailed wide, I tottered to the pay phone (kids, ask your parents!) and called home. My 15 year old sister answered in tears, and managed to gasp out, "nothing to be ashamed of" before handing the phone to my Dad.
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2 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:
Thurman could have ran for 300 yds in that game if said coach would have adj game plan
Plays were called on the fly by the coach wearing #12.
But, in addition to better tackling on third down, a couple of catches from #83 (a third down drop after the safety comes to mind) and the game is completely different. As with so many historical events, there are many possible inflection points. The next three times, they happened to run into better teams.
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4 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said:
1975 was a weird year...started off 4-0 and lost to the lowly Giants on MNF (which inexplicably wasn't sold out...I vividly recall listening to the game on the radio).
Bills also blew a 21-0 lead at home to the Colts, couldn't beat the Fish, sputtered to the finish line and finished 8-6...with OJ leading the league in rushing/rushing TDs.
So true, 1975 really started out to be the year the OJ-led Bills would break through to a championship. They beat the SB Champ Steelers in PIT to avenge their playoff loss of the year before, got to 4-0, and were leading 14-0 in that MNF game against the Giants. Then the wheels fell off, the defense couldn't stop anyone (blowing the 21-0 lead to the Colts at home, losing in Cincinnati on MNF, 33-24 in a game where Cincy never had to punt), and the Mercury Morris Phantom Fumble the week after that Thanksgiving Day win over STL ended the playoff dreams. Then came the Marangi Year of 1976 and the dream fizzled out....
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16 hours ago, RochesterRob said:
Harvey Johnson did not want the job but took it after Ralph begged him to do so. IIRC Ralph fired him at the end of the stint.
Twice!
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The other team gets to try and score too. At least this score will keep the Bills from settling back. (How's that for a glass half-full approach?)
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Just now, stevestojan said:
Up 16-0 and you don’t run the ball once? Now the defense will be tired. Daboll. Jackass.
If they had run three times, we'd be hearing complaints about how they lack a killer instinct.
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On 11/4/2019 at 7:33 AM, PromoTheRobot said:
One thing for sure, it will be another meaningless win against a terrible opponent, like the rest of them. Am I right?
Only if they win.
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Just now, IDBillzFan said:
Exactly. Just because we love seeing the team win more than it loses doesn't mean we're not realistic.
But some people need to be unhappy.
Too many people think being unhappy proves they are smart. All it proves is that they are unhappy.
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Forget the win. Bills actually covered the spread this week. That's downright historic! ?
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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:
Haskins has more passing yards than Allen
No, he does not.
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Just now, PromoTheRobot said:
Haskins is not playing badly.
True, that wasn't quite fair, but I'm flashing back to 1976 when the Bills could pile up the rush yards with OJ but still lose by two touchdowns because the O couldn't do anything else.
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If you say Dwayne Haskins' name backwards it sounds like "Gary Marangi."
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Just now, HappyDays said:
I don't get it. We don't use our 6-5 QB to get a foot?
Ask Patrtick Mahomes why you shouldn't overdo QB sneaks.
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In 1976, the Bills lost nine games in a row, including at least three games in which OJ ran for more than 150 yards; in one of them OJ set the NFL record for yards in a game (273, on Thanksgiving Day, against the Lions, a game DET won, 27-14). All those yards didn't matter a damn if the team couldn't do anything else.
I worry about the Bills run defense as much as the next psychologically damaged fan, but it's much better to be ahead on the score board than the stat sheet.
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Scott Norwoods other big miss
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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It did not start right down the middle... it started right and stayed there for an agonizingly long time as we all waited for it to curl in....
Romes also dropped an INT (mayve a pick-6) on the play just before Fouts hit Ron Smith to beat the Bills in the 1980 playoffs....
Being a Bills fan is hard.