MikePJ76

definitely organic tanking. Considering what Garrett said this week I imagine the veterans on the team realize they are playing to lose.

they have to make the playoffs first

welp put the bengals down for another win.

Ha, pickett is actually in...I must be a fortune teller. The atlanta stadium looks 50% full and I would say 25% of that looks like Giants fans. Atlanta is a horrible sports city.

Call in a bomb threat dude, some things are just more important than others.

I actually think these games are pretty good. Interested to see how detroit responds, can washington find a way, will the bengals blow out the browns....How do the jets look today? I think the snf game should be good too.

I think he is a good coach and will build a good staff. I don't think the pats staff is really a rock solid group. Having a good young qb should motivate the front office to have the best staff they can. plus I know someone who has coached with vrabel and have heard good things about the guy, so maybe that sways me.

I can imagine a scenario where Washington loses out and misses the playoffs. It would be interesting to see how Dallas approaches a game in week 18 at home with a chance to knock out the commanders.

It's banana's to me that they would not hire Mike Vrabel. He would build a good staff and with a good young qb and rb they could turn it around in the matter of one good draft and free agency period. IMO, in one good offseason with Vrabel at head coach and they would be better than the jets and dolphins.

I'm really interested to see what the Jets look like today. If they just go through the motions and get blown out I imagine next week they will want no part of that environment and the bills offense, especially if the chiefs lose on xmas. if they win and play really well today and then know they can screw up Buffalo's shot at the 1 seed they will give it everything they got next week.

woops. I meant pickens of course. now I bet the commanders wish pickett was playing today.

it never was. we all thought he broke a finger.

Hope is not lost yet. If the steelers can find a way on xmas the chiefs will get everything Sean Payton can get out of Denver the final week. i have little faith in the steelers but if pickett plays and they can get a lead you never know.

What is the big deal man? he has two.

Stroud crying shows me that he cares. A lot. If I were a texans fan this would make me really optimistic about the future. Now his offseason tour of self promotion about how great he is and ranking players....that is a really bad look. Caring so much about a teammate that you are overcome with emotion in a big game, that is a good sign.

Hoping the bills suffocate the pats early like last years game at the stadium. Just take away any hope early of the upset and then manage the game. a nice 31-13 win is what they need today. Then let the Steelers chiefs came play out Xmas day. That should set the table for what it’s going to take to win the afc.

Anyone else watch the hard knocks afc north? I watched it last night. All this time I thought Mike Tomlin was like belichick, McDermott, dungy etc. calculated calm leader but it turns out he talks and acts like a meathead. I was really surprised by that.

What if Pittsburgh loses in the wild card round and Baltimore wins? What if Pitt wins out and the bills get upset in one of the final three. They would be the 3 in that case. different viewpoint I guess. I just want Buffalo to get the 2 and have a shot the final two weeks to get the 1. Pitt losing today basically guarantees the bills the 2, they won’t get beat twice I would have to think to finish. Plus they could rest week 18 if kc beats Pitt Xmas day.

Yea this is what every bills fan should be rooting for. Pittsburgh loses today and essentially guarantees the 2 seed for Buffalo (barring an upset in the next 3 games) then Pittsburgh really needs to win the chiefs game. If they win they force kc to have to beat Denver in week 18.

They both might get 5 sacks. KC probably wins comfortably, it seems if you stop Mixon from having a big day you can really shut down that offense.

John Mara must be sitting here watching this game wondering why in the hell joe Schoen and Brian Daboll took a wr. on top of that he could have hired Sean Payton a few years ago and instead he is stuck with Daboll and schoen and the number 1 pick in a bad year for quarterbacks.

The game is 100% about matchups.

Denver like Baltimore is a team I really don’t want any part of in Orchard Park if the game turns into a snow game. They have the parts to move the ball and play in that environment.

The chargers play 17 road games. Why would any free agent ever go there. That must be awful.

Yea they talked about the bills and the patriots.