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I gotta tell ya. Poor execution. ... JK Seriously though, how anyone attributes this absurdly underperforming offense to anything but coaching at this point is mystifying.

8:54 time of possession 21 offensive plays 122 total yards 8 1st-Downs That has absolutely nothing to do with an injured defense. Given that the hope for our team is our offense, we're screwed.

How can anyone, meaning anyone, possibly argue that our issues are not primarily related to coaching at this point.

Aversion therapy as in A Clockwork Orange.

I'm tellin' ya! What a monster. Let's hope he can keep a high level of energy up.

Completely agree! The board will blame him, but that was sorely underthrown.

It also helps when you don't underthrow it by 5 yards tho either. Don't disagree otherwise.

OK, well that's an overgeneralization if you've ever laid one out. Sorry, but our offense should, as it has already, slice through that Bengal D like a hot knife through butter. Defensively, Cincy's scored a max of 34 points this season, it shouldn't be too much to ask to hold them to under that. Time for our "defensive oriented head coach" to put the pedal to the metal tonight.

In fact, the two defenses are pretty similar. Anyone complaining about ours in the context of this particular game, needs to look at their secondary and then reevaluate.

At this point it would seem that the hope is tied to getting in, whether it's with 11-6 and a division win or as a WC, then hope we get hot for four games. This team isn't coached well enough comparatively to be able to win four playoff games without getting hot. The talent's there, the coaching is not. @GunnerBill We'll find out tonight.

Goodell's son.

Even further out. Opponents are known years in advance with the exceptions of the two in-conference opponents and one NFC opponent based upon the place is the finish.

To date we've had the second easiest schedule in the league. Only Miami's had an easier one.

Yes, I misspoke re: Reader. Per my post to Gunner. Again, our D isn't much different than theirs but ours has I said nothing about a hole in our secondary. Their secondary is a lot worse than ours. My entire point is that the few injuries that we've had aren't enough to send this D to the depths of the rankings or play. Theirs is average.

Be that as it may, the point was that there's no reason why their D should be ranked average while ours founders near DFL. There's been at least somewhat of an overreaction to a few injuries here.

It's also fair to question whether these frenetically paced defenses, often and as in our case referred to as "swarming" Ds, as a result of their pace and style of associated play factor into to it.

That'll be the proof in the pudding. That and whether we even show up for the 1st Half this week. We have a significant advantage with 10 days prep and Cincy playing a late game out west.

Yeah, sorry, I meant Hill.

SNF's game has a lot more meaning that most realize.

Starters: Hubbard: 6'5"/265 Hill: 6'3"/311 Reader: 6'3"/335 Hendrickson: 6'4"/270 To compare: Groot: 6'6"/266 Phillips: 6'5"/341 Oliver: 6'2"/287 Floyd: 6'6''/240 Our OL: Brown: 6'8"/311 Torrence: 6'5"/347 Morse: 6'5"/305 McGovern: 6'5"/318 Dawkins: 6'4"/320 Reader should be across from Torrence. That could be the key M2M matchup there.

Grasping at straws time in Boston.

I'm not sure that DJ Reader is any less of a "hole" than our options. Phillips has had a better career than Reader, and he was better here last season. I don't understand why the drop in performance. He's only 31. I have to think that they can tweak the D to help him contribute more. As to the LBs, we've discussed that ad nauseum and essentially agree. The players on the roster are the ones that they chose. Now they have to live with it. Either way, we could conversly say that we don't have the hole that they have in the entire secondary too. Particularly if Douglas starts, as I suspect he will. ... and FWIW, their rushing D is worse than ours. If we can't generate some serious offense on SN ...

And as Gunner implied, they were FAs that he, Beane, signed, no doubt with much input from McD. Perhaps they should have thought things through and gotten at least one guy that would fit the scheme a little bit better. That's the problem as many view it, they're so overly focused on pass-rush that everything else, the other elements of D, takes a back seat, at least to a large extent.

And the backing up of Peterman by McD was just cataclysmically stupid.

I just went over their entire starting D lineup. Their D doesn't seem to be any better than ours based on the talent that's starting on Sunday. Their front-7 is almost entirely 3rd-round draft picks too. I believe that among the entire starting 11 there was only one Pro-Bowl appearance. Their top guys in their front-7 have 15 total sacks. Henrickson (8), Hubbard (4), and Hill (3). Our top guys in our front-7 have 19.5 total sacks. Floyd (6.5), AJE (5), Oliver (5), and Groot (3). TFLs, Cincy 20. Hendrickson (8), Hubbard, Pratt, and Wilson 4 each. Us, 31. Oliver (10), Groot (6), Bernard (6), AJE (5), Floyd (4). QB Hits, Cincy 39. Hubbard (12), Hendrickson (11), Hill (11), Reader (5). Us, 35. Floyd (12), Oliver (10), Groot (7), AJE (6). They don't seem to have any ringers in their secondary either and seems to be notably worse than ours. Just a little perspective for everyone that's bawling about how the season's over "because our D sucks." Speaking for myself, I have very little faith that we'll win @ Philly, which if we don't, makes this pretty much a must-win game. I agree with your 3-1/2-2/1-3 assessment over the next four games. Zach Taylor has outcoached McD the last three times we've met, which includes the beginning of the Hamlin game. The first time was with Dalton and a bunch of JAGS at WR besides Boyd, whose hardly prolific. Granted, we had Brown, Beasley, Jones, and McKenzie, but that was better than Boyd and three young WRs that aren't even in the league anymore, two not since '21. At this point the heat is appropriately beginning to befall McD. We'll see what he has up his sleeve, if anything, for SNF, Prime Time. It'll be on display for the world. I'm hopeful, but I wouldn't bet on us coming out on top. This team is ridiculously mystifying in its ability to underachieve.