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Then there's that. The problem is that when things go wrong with no explanations, unfortunately that's exactly what happens. The speculation on the parts of reporters start. In fact, one reporter even said that in the thing about Diggs' interview. He said when players say something that has implications, but don't provide the adequate background, that causes the true journalists out there to go and try to gather information and statements from other players. At the end of the day we're a team that has once again started strong, a McD hallmark, but then levels off to more of a steady state. The current three-game streak that we're on we've not seen since 2019. Phillips played much better that season raising questions as to why they can't get more out of him now. He had 9.5 sacks that season. Milano was a shell of himself back then. Other than our secondary we really didn't have that many great defenders and Oliver was in his rookie season. What we did have was more conventional players. more conventional LBs for example, not a bunch of lightweight speedy gonzalez types that can't tackle. Maybe our 30th ranking in missed tackles is much more the issue. That all points to coaching. Sorry to say. If our offense had been able to score 1 TD in the first half, we'd have won. Not impressively, but we'd have won. We've had the second easiest schedule to date. If we cannot do better than the 2019 10-6 team did, with the 23rd ranked offense, and today with a better OL, better RBs, better WRs, and a better receiving TE, presumably, than we've ever had, then it's not going to be good and there should be no expectation on the part of anyone that the coaching staff be the first place to point fingers.

Oddly, it's been reported that they are friends. Maybe that side of Rodgers is getting into Allen. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're right. Dorsey's got this offense humming along on all cylinders. Not sure what I was thinking.

If our entire season is gone because of a few injuries to our defense, then something's terribly wrong. #1 Jersey sales are 17 for a reason. And if we need is a game manager, then trade Josh and get one in here and get some adequate depth so with the loss of two players we don't go from 1st or 2nd to 31st or 32nd on defense. That sounds like the wrong approach for 2023 where everything revolves around offense, including the rules to support it. But hey, what do we know. Maybe a good question would be why our OL and WRs aren't better. But that's to impugn Beane, so we can't have that. LOL It apparently has nothing to do with coaching either many still maintain. LOL Well, alright ... We've had the second easiest schedule to date of any team in the league. The only team with an easier schedule to date is the Bears at 2-5. The Bengals had most of their OL missing and still managed to go to KC for the AFC CG and take it to the wire. I'm sure that those weren't their only injuries. As one example. Joey Bosa, you know, Joey Bosa, perennial 1st-Team All-Pro, on a team bereft of D otherwise other than Mack for the most part generally speaking, and yet they went 8-4 in his absence. Three of the four teams that they lost to during that stretch were playoff teams, two of which were the Niners and Chiefs. We struggled against the Giants, which as a reminder would have been a loss except for absurd blunders by their coaching staff and backup QB, and the Mac Jones Pats, whom the Raiders and Saints beat. Besides Crosby, who on their defenses is significantly better than, as whole, we have now? And what, our offense isn't capable of even approaching the offensive output generated by Carr, Olave and some JAGs and a rookie in NO?

I'd still swap NE's offensive play-calling in that game for ours. Not sure what two plays have to do with the overall game. It was simply better. Quite outstanding actually. Also, everyone's also complaining about the D, but in one of the pieces linked on the homepage, the writer mentions that we're ranked 30th in missed tackles. That's not an injury thing, that's a poor fundamentals thing and it's also not the first time under this staff that it's been an issue.

Diggs' long catch was 25, but sure. I'd have swapped our offensive plan for New Englands any day. But wait, I'm not sure we could actually run theirs without the superlative skills of Rhamondre Stevenson, Demario Douglas, Kendrick Bourne, or TE Pharoah Brown. So yeah, since we don't have a bona fide #2 there's no way we can compete with the likes of them. Maybe we can trade Davis for Dougless, Kincaid or Knox for Brown. Maybe then we could pull it off. But yeah, you're right, it's a tall order for us given the shabby talent we have. Maybe we can get Jefferson and Kelce in the offseason via trade. Maybe then we can be consistently good. Oh well, poor McD. That what you wanna hear?

That's true, but "fired up" doesn't always mean running like a maniac. I rewatched parts of the New England game and what stood out to me was the creativity with the play calling, on both sides. It's as if Belichick properly did all of his homework before the game but questions remain as to whether McD & Co. did any. And if they did, which surely they did, then they were not good if not outright awful at it.

Good catch! NPI

Did he? I was wondering about that. LOL That's actually fine. Whatever you have to do while entering the field. Listen to certain music, yack, hop around on one foot, eat 3/4 of a donut, etc., whatever. That's all fine and good. But we seem to be leaning into new age mantra crap or the like. What's next, crystals over the exit to the lockerroom. It's a physical game that relies heavily on the player's conditioning and skills. It's also an intellectual game. Nothing more. The coach's job is to put it all together to yield the best possible results. That's what practices are for. These guys certainly get enough money to do exactly that. If the answer is simply letting Allen run wild, then serious questions need to be asked as to what McD's role actually is on that side of the ball. We'll see what happens on Sunday, but if it's anything but a decisive win, it risks getting fugly.

They need to just go out there and get it done. If they cannot do that, then there's a lack of leadership, and that starts, on just about every team in every sport anyway, just seemingly not here, with the head coach. This team is currently playing to our non-best drought era levels, which is entirely inexcusable given the fact that we have Allen now.

If the health and wellness of this team depends upon Allen's mental state in entering every game, we and he are in trouble. These guys have a job to do and practice that job routinely. They get paid tens of millions in Allen's case. Get up and go and do your job. It's called execution. This shouldn't be anything more than that given his talent. This siht show leans more increasingly to coaching, or the lack of proper coaching, by the day now. SMH Honestly, WTF is next, some special ritual by the team before games. Mental safe spaces? This is starting to play out like some bad B-rate comedy-drama.

A half-keg of Bacardi 151 in the kegerator?

Yeah, but I'm not sure a complete newbie like Brady is it. Shula (offense) and Washington & Holcomb (defense) were. They're all Carolina products. There's a reason why they're here in secondary and support roles. The way things appear to be shaping up if this is all true, then it sounds as if the every man for himself warning is about to go off. As bad as things are, relatively speaking, I don't think that firing Dorsey at this point will help. And honestly, if that's going to happen and things get worse, Pegula has no choice but to clean house on the coaching staff side. I know a bunch of us have seen enough of Carolina's former coaching staff. Most of them shouldn't even be here to begin with. It's ridiculous to consider that they, of all possibilities, were the best people for their roles. Perhaps that's the problem, which it is. But then McD's the one that put that ragtag collection of the unaccomplished together. This thing gets worse with each passing day. SMH LOL, sure, but that's hardly an endorsement either. At the rate things are going the word disarray comes to mind.

They'll end up in a ditch flipping off a police helicopter. I wouldn't mind seeing some more pics of the monstrosity that they're actually building. Been sparse so far.

That's a little alarming. Brady would take over. His track record in the two years that he was the OC in Carolina is low-end.

It's going to be a very interesting game. For some idiotic reason, part of me is still expecting the same decisive win that I figured was coming over the past two weeks. I'm so conflicted.

Agreed, not a good look for the team. Looks reactionary.

I'm tellin' ya. Arms out to the sides. She runs like a girl. ... oh, wait ... Not to mention, the 70s version of Boob Watch, I was wondering if those things were gonna come poppin' out of their holsters. Just make sure that the homefries are still cold. A latenight specialty when it was crowded. That'd be in keeping with the situation.

To start, paragraphs are your friends. 🙂 I question the wisdom of bringing in the top half of a coaching staff that never did anything of significance elsewhere other than in a single season under the most favorable circumstances that they'll likely never see again. .... Actually that have in a limited manner, the early party of this season, and the results aren't encouraging. The one that brought them in needs to be held accountable. But who really expected him to bring in that young innovative talent you mentioned? That would threaten his power base and be a candidate to replace him. But alas, maybe he's in a catch-22 now as a result. He is the head coach after all.

Yeah, sorry, I meant for an entire season and as best as it possibly could.

Size & types of players rushing? i.e., DBs rather than LBs maybe. I haven't spent any time looking whatsoever other than superficially.

I'm curious what his metrics are in this way. Cook's not the prototypical blocking back to be polite. It was a weakness of his coming into the NFL and it seems as if Dorsey needs to find another solution. Goes with not being a 3-down RB I suppose.

Yeah, and finished below average defensively in four of six seasons. We've been through this. The year that the Panthers went to the Super Bowl, they had the easiest schedule of any NFL team from 2011 thru 2022, 12 seasons. The easiest. That's relevant context. That was also easily the best season that Newton ever put up. He was no better than average at any other time. We can find exceptions for everything.

Gotcha! Still, that would be fine if the offense were running on all cylinders, which it never has under McD. I mean we trade-up to draft Kincaid, crow about 2-TE sets, rarely use those, rarely use Kincaid, a pass-catching prodigy, and since McD's been here, no matter who we have as WRs, for some unknownn reason we never have a bone fide #2. That at least makes people say "let's get an offensive person in here to see if they can get something more from an offense led by one of the top QBs in the leauge." Defense shouldn't be carrying this team. And to the extent that we've expended draft resources on it, it should. But in the playoffs, our D typically goes on vacation. So why does it matter. That's where we need to shine, and the D's done anything but shine with even the slightest of consistency therein.