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Miller's out the moment they can afford to dump him. From Spotrac it seems that it would be a bigger cap hit for us to cut him than to keep him, but nearly $10M. So he'll be around.

Well that's all fine, but then Beane needs to take that heat, not Davis. Beane's had six drafts now to craft this roster. Milano wasn't his pick, neither was White, and Jones was a free agent. Everyone's complaining about what's left, aka Beane's draft picks. So in essence, since "we suck on defense" now, that has to mean that Beane's draftees aren't cutting it. Three of them start on the DL, Groot, AJE, and Oliver. Our LB corps are nothing but Beane draftees now. Jackson, Johnson, and Benford start in the secondary.

If you throw the ball enough to any WR he'll log those numbers. Don't forget too, that the Fins threw for nearly 4,800 yards last season. IMO he's the worst WR on our roster. Last season he only had two games with more than 3 catches, and only three games with more than 44 yards. We can find all kinds of WRs that posted a 400 yard, 2 TD season as their big season. His catch% was also 58.8%, which is poor. I do think that part of his lack of use is coaching, but that doesn't mean to the tune of 500+ yards or anything. If they tried to work him in more, 25 catches for 300 yards or so would be my expectation, nothing more. Right now he's WR5 with no one behind him besides the PS if there are any WRs on it. Of course Kincaid is ahead of him in the gameday pecking order.

Well, this is his sixth NFL season. In those six seasons, the sixth one still developing, on four different teams with different coaches, he's "amassed" a whopping 4 TDs, 12.1 YPR, and fewer than 200 yards per season. One would think that if he were something other than a JAG, he'd have proven it by now. If you go back and look at the competition he's had for a #3 spot, it's incredibly weak wherever he was. Any WR that's currently on a roster in the NFL is capable of doing what he's done, particularly on a team with Allen as the QB. I'm surprised he's still on the team. I sincerely believed that he'd have been cut by now.

McDermott is never going to hire anyone that could potentially replace him, on either side. Once Pegula figures that out, meaning that it's incredibly unlikely that McD actually hires a qualified proven competent OC, it's over for McD. The question is when Pegs will figure that out, if ever. Otherwise the Allen-era will be like our Kelly-era, forever wondering what could have been with better coaching.

Can't speak to Harty, but Sherfield's not much below his average per-season pace. He's squarely on pace for what he did in three of five seasons otherwise on two different teams. He's also never had the competition for snaps that he's had here in Buffalo, including at Miami last season, where he was the #3 WR by default. When your competition for snaps is Cedric Wilson Jr., River Cracraft, and Braylon Sanders, who isn't even in the league now, then it's not difficult to log snaps and playing time. He was massively overrated coming here.

Here's the thing that few seem to realize and understand. Allen entered the NFL with incredibly weak defense reading skills. He was arguably worst in his draft class. What saved him was his physical attributes and arm-strength. He's never been a multi-read guy in the NFL. It's absolutely remarkable what he's been able to do in the NFL. In the NCAAs, his physical prowess allowed him to succeed as a "man among boys" so to speak. But that's also why he was the worst QB in his draft class against Power-5 competition. Given that he's overcome so much of that, and produced to top-QB levels, it's not anywhere close to a reach that with proper and good coaching, he should be able to refine and polish his game to be able to get rid of his flaws. At the same time, not having that proper coaching could irreversibly do the opposite, which appears to be occurring, or at least render the process for turning him into the best in the league much more difficult and time-consuming. But looking for him to be doing something that he's never exceled at or come close to exceling at, particularly given the questionable coaching that he's working with, isn't really fair to him.

How about finding an up-and-coming seemingly brilliant offensive mind, like Ben Johnson or Press Taylor as two examples, and hiring them. I realize that would take some competence and intelligence on the part of the one doing the hiring, and not hiring for other non-performance related reasons, such as "culture," relationships, etc. But just a hunch, that might be in the best interests of a team like ours with Allen at the helm.

And ROFLMAO, your post was prescient. From a few days ago ... https://nypost.com/2023/11/04/sports/josh-mcdaniels-firing-another-bill-belichick-coaching-tree-failure/ Bill Belichick’s Coaching Tree Has Alarming Number of Dead Branches Maybe you want to read your own post to me and then look in the mirror as if you wrote it to yourself. Just sayin'.

I'm sure he's got his strengths. But after oh, IDK, however long he's been on PFT, listening to him, he's had quite a few ######ed takes as well. More than enough to fuel any questions as to his overall intelligence about all things football. And simply because someone's knowledgeable in one area, hardly makes them an expert such as yourself as implied. Right, because coaches like McDaniels, among numerous others, have been so successful on their own. Funny too, Belichick's been so successful too without Brady. In fact, he's had no success without Brady. I think there may be a connection there. Thank you! Maybe on day I'll be like you.

100% agreement. I was never big on McD to begin with. His credentials were maybe not weak, but hardly strong when Pegula hired him. 13-Seconds dit if for me at that point as well. It's been downhill ever since, now drastically downhill. This can't be a good situation for the team. (players, coaches, etc.) As pointed out before, Pegula's gotta think about this PSLs and ST sales in the new stadium. What's going on now is hardly good marketing while you're trying to ratched up ticket prices by double or so, while adding PSL fees on top of it. Anyway, I was being facetious.

If that play were any other WR then everyone would be saying that it was Allen's fault, particularly if it was Diggs. For less than $1M/season, I simply don't understand the hatred for Davis. Great, so he's not worth what he'll get maybe, but that's the offseason, not now. He was targeted twice, once that play, and once more with that facemask in the endzone, which was also not a particularly well-thrown ball. No other targets, but it's Davis' fault. BTW, and FWIW, Simms isn't one of the brighter people covering football, and as a QB he sucked. As you implied, could be a positive thing.

Indeed. But it's only been 7 seasons. He obviously needs more time to iron out the kinks.

I've heard a bunch of people say that, but we were also pretty close to losing to both the Giants and Bucs. Imagine being on an 0-5 streak right now. The only difference is that in '21 at that point we had a 4-13, 5-12, and 7-10 team left to play, and the Pats who ended up being 10-7. This season we have two teams that have already beaten us remaining, three other current division leaders, and the Cowboys which are in 2nd in their devision behind Philly, one of the division leaders on the team. Arguably the easiest remaining game is next MNF vs. Denver. We have had the second easiest schedule to date this season. If we're going to win the division, it's quite likely that we'll need to beat @Miami and NE and the Jets at home. That seems like a tall order at this point in time. Of the 8 games remaining, thinking that 4-4 would be good given how we're playing. That would put us at 9-8 without many tiebreakers.

Thanks for reporting! This staff isn't going to be getting many if any benefits of the doubt going forward at this point. They've blown whatever good will they've had for this season anyway. It's already an uphill climb for McD to salvage this mess. I'm seriously wondering when he's going to throw Dorsey under the bus and promote Brady into the role. Not that he's competent there as the odds are beyond slim for someone that has absolutely no track record of success in the role. It's going to be interesting to see how this shakes out and how patient Pegula is smack in the middle of an attempt to sell season tickets and PSLs to fans that already seem to be growing thin on patience for the current staff. And no matter how bad anyone thinks we are, honestly, we're presently seeded after the Steelers, Browns, and Jets, none of which have great QBs to understate their condition.

Perhaps he felt that our offense wasn't inclusive enough. Maybe some players weren't happy with their roles, and in the interests of positive culture McD decided to try other styles of offenses. Maybe they'll put a tent on the field as a safe space for any player(s) that aren't happy with their roles during games. That could help. And for the players on D for which it's too much trying to play more due to a couple of injuries there, maybe a tent on-field with comfort dogs or something too. We could put snap counters on players, and once their forced over a certain percentage of snaps, into the comfort animal tent they go for treatment. It's so exciting to see where this goes!! Either way, it's good to see that our Head Coach was on top of things and made sure to abandon things that were working so that we could be inclusive to the feelings of other inanimate styles. There's no denying the fantastic culture he's built here.

Come on now. Be patient, ... trust the Process!

Of course it is. That's why leadership (aka coaching) needs to be replaced. No one in charge, in applying good management, should have attempted to "sustain" it any longer than absoluely necessary. Meanwhile, how badly it's screwing with Allen's mind is anyone's guess. Yes, I realize that. I'm too tired and don't care enough to explain it further. No worries, it's really not that important. As I like to remind people, myself included, not a shred of anything we say here really matters. It's all just filling our time. LOL Frankly, if someone at OBD did happen to have their ear to the forum here, they'd probably go nuts in a matter of hours.

It may not be the direct topic, but it without question has an indirect impact on the situation. So you're saying that the rate of fumbles among scrambling QBs is the same exact percentage chance or outcome as those from RBs/WRs/TEs that are carrying the ball? Got any mathematical evidence for that, I'd love to see it and the source. I haven't been able to find anything from numerous sources. Either way, that was my point. I'd be incredibly surprised if the rates were identical. And how's that compare to RBs for example? BTW, Chicago was the worst team in the league last season. Could at least partially be why whatever Fields did, Fields did. Again, not my point whatsoever. I'm interested in the fumble rate data that you're looking at, largely because I couldn't find it. And BTW, you do realize that you're arguing staunchly against a generalized "more touches, more fumbles" likelihood, right?

BTW, here are our available starters on D after the longer-term injuries generally speaking: Groot Floyd/Miller Oliver Phillips Dodson Bernard Johnson Jackson Benford Poyer Hyde There's only Milano and Jones without comparable backups. Two players, not a "decimation" nor anything close. It's a few injuries, key ones, but hardly anything many other teams haven't seen without falling apart from the levels of 1st overall to DFL overall. That secondary should be fine. And maybe it's time to ditch Hyde with his never-ending injury concerns too. But that's a Beane thing. We also have Floyd which we didn't have last season. Maybe time to see what McD really has in terms of coaching up the D. In Carolina his Ds there averaged 17th scoring in his six seasons there.

Of course not, but like everyone was focusing on his 2.5 sacks, 3 TFLs, and 5 QBHits over three games, a pace of 13 sacks, 17 TFLs, and 28 QB Hits, nearly his 9-season total, over three games, you're saying don't do that then like everyone is in establishing how much of a force he's been this season? Roger.

OK, agree to disagree. They're a hit, but such that, and with our replacements now, like Douglas who's playing better than White has in two seasons, it drops a team from #1/#2 overall to DFL, nah, no way.

Phenominal's a bit embellishing for a DT that logged a sack and a pair of half-sacks, 3 TFLs, and 11 QB Hits on a 16-game season. As to White, we all know that White hasn't been the player that he was since getting hurt and hasn't recovered yet to date. Douglas will be better. So there's that, which is a wash. The primary player is Milano, and that situation is the creation of McBeane, the depth part of it. Either way, other teams suffer worse injuries than we have without dropping from the top of the rankings to the bottom of them. Some are using that as an excuse to defend McD and Beane if we can be honest. Yes, it's a hit, but not that big of a hit. If you do a man-to-man analysis of their D vs. ours yesterday, as it was on the field, ours is better. Take a look at their secondary some time. There's no way theirs even approaches ours. The front-7 is comparable. And three starters, what, we're the only team to have lost three (or more) starters without having melted down? On a related note, take a look at where their front-7 starters as they were on the field yesterday were drafted when you have a few minutes.

He's not as good as people are making him out to be. He was on pace to shatter his season best numbers, this single season, by five times over. He hit a streak. He's a solid player, but everyone's making him out to be much much better than he was after he, and the team, ran a hot streak against a few cruddy teams.

Right, but Jones was massively overrated. I mean it's no accident, in fact it's rather routine for McD coached teams here, for us to come out of the gates swinging, several players really stand out early in the season, before fading away. This notion that Jones, a JAG in essence throughout his 9-year career, all of a sudden in the early part of his back-9, "came on." It was a short spurt for him, much like Rousseau last season had one. Meanwhile, Oliver's continued his old now you see me, now you don't role. Our secondary is better now than it was for most of last season. Of our starting F7, we have 5 players of 7 that were designed starters. If losing Jones and Milano cause that kind of downfall in the rankings, then McD should be fired right now.