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Uh oh! Davis with a 2-point conversion. Not good.

You're right! Super Bowl here we come. We'll show 'em @ Philly and @ KC in two and three weeks. And hey, we just pulled within a FG against Denver. At home, in a game in which it appears that we'll be heading into the half with 7 points. My bad. As you were.

Coaching is more than merely play-calling.

I hear ya, but a divisional team though. Either way, not good.

The poor coaching is getting into the heads of the players and affecting them.

Denver! The easiest team on our schedule. At home! SMFH

Seriously?

We're a good, not great, team. Poorly coached.

The end of season "numerology" will take care of that.

Bless you my son! The Process is finally defined for us! Numerology is part of the Winning Culture here.

🤣😂🤣 You're not playing properly here. LOL

No, but if we don't win the Super Bowl because of conflicts between the competent OC and McD, which is far from being a reach, you might very well. McD's never going to hire someone that if things don't go right has a chance to succeed him.

Yeah, we'll see how it shakes out. While our PSLs and prices will likely be lower than elsewhere, according to the surveys etc., they're still going to be twice or so what they are now, again, plus those PSLs. Which is high for our region. Either way, when it comes up, many people here that have been long-time STHs say that they're not going to be renewing under those circumstances. But the point was that the way we're playing certainly isn't positive marketing for those sales. If it were going to persuade or disuade someone from buying, clearly it would seem to be the latter. That's all I'm saying.

Not the way it's being coached it isn't. The chances of McD stringing together four games to win it all is remote. Remember, we did catch lightning in a bottle in '21, and at the climax, Allen & Davis took over the game. McD let that lightning out of the bottle in the waning 13 seconds of the game. They call it lightning in a bottle for a reason, it's very unusual that it happens twice. To whom much is given, much more is expected. He may be one of if not the most successful coach in franchise history, but he wouldn't be close without Allen and he's the one that's prevented it from going further. Allen should be on his Christmas fruit basket list for the rest of his life. Allen >>> Eli Manning Right now, if we're going to compare, let's compare our record at season's end to who the QBs & coaches were during the drought years that had the same or better records. Let's see what happens tonight first. If someone had told me at the beginning of the season that the Denver game, conceiveably our easiest back then, would be a pivotal defining game for us, I'd have thought they were nuts.

That's a significant part of the point/problem. Josh shouldn't have to take over games by himself in order for us to win. That's been the case throughout McD's tenure. Allen winning games to the difference of drought era teams and this. The only thing making McD look good in the playoffs was Allen's having taken over the Chiefs' game along with Davis in '21. Otherwise McD can't win anything but a Wild-Card game. The biggest common denominator in the now four season duration of Allen's top-level play is that it's been in the post-Brady era and our division has generally sucked. Miami's been the only true threat and that's reliant upon Tua who's seen a tumultuous injury history not even being able to play a full season yet.

Out of curiosity, how many other head coaches have firmly indicated that they have no idea what's wrong much less how to correct what they don't know is wrong with their own teams? Asking for a friend.

Once again, it wasn't my point, numerous others here have laid out out. As to selling Tix, don't take that up with me, take it to with the numerous people that are STHs here alone, that have already said that they're bailing, ... before this season even played out. I didn't say it, they did. Great that you think that this level of play isn't going to impact ticket sales at twice current pricing plus PSLs. Is it OK if others disagree with you? Or not? Just to clarify what you're allowing in the forum. Talk about extreme, one more post and I'd strongly suggest implications of stalking me. 😉

Way to not even remotely get the point. Nice work. That takes some doing to get from the Croix of what was stated to that. 😉

If even that.

Bills should be 7-2 and in sole possession of first place with the second-easiest schedule in the league to date that they've had. If not 8-1 given that three of our road games were against three horrible teams with absolutely terrible QBs that we dropped two to. Wins against the Jets and Pats alone would have us at 7-2. Apparently we're incapable of beating the Bengals with McD. Now we face the polar opposite, three road games against division leaders including both of last seasons Super Bowl participants, one more road game against a team that we haven't beaten on their turf since the Chuck Knox/Ferguson days, a home game against one of the toughest defenses in the league that also has an offense that's better and more balanced than ours, and two teams at home that we've already lost to. ... and resurgent Denver whose coach knows McD's D's well. Just sayin'' ... Barring something unusual, it seems that we're tracking for a season that's on par with a bunch in the drought era. Is this where the highly touted yet ill-defined Process that we're supposed to have trusted has led?

If McD can shake his Peterman-like insistence that Dorsey's doing a good job when he's not, then Dorsey will be back on the field as a QB coach somewhere else next season and won't have a choice. That's if McD even survives if he can't put up something better than a drought era losing record alongside a playoffs swing-and-a-miss with Allen at QB. ... after candidly stating that he doesn't know how to coach his offense up. Let's see if we can even win tonight. This should be a 14 point plus win. If not, ... LOL ...

Maybe Dorsey was never the right guy to begin with. Maybe McD won't hire the right guy because that guy would be a candidate to replace him. Simply because "Josh likes him," doesn't mean he's competent. That's the problem with this whole "culture" thing. It's like a fraternity, but a fraternity in and of itself is not a good business model. Competence is still needed. Fraternities, aka "culture" in this case, translates to little more than blind loyalty.

And BTW, what should be indisputable is that it's not going to help. Also, keep in mind, that before this implosion, numerous longtime STHs even here have said that they're not renewing. Remember, the prices are going to be approx double, and there will be pricey PSLs. Even if you sell the corporates, you don't want half empty seats. We'll see what happens there. I am s little surprised that the ticket sales process hasn't already begun. We'll see if we finish with a worse record than some of our drought era teams. Even equal isn't a good look. It's also not a good look when many of our fans are going for that exactly so that McD will get fired. I've now interested with a number of fans hoping for that. At the end of the day, a coach admitting, several times now, that he has no idea how to get anything more than mediocrity from an Allen-led offense more or less dug his own grave. Don't blame me or any other posters, he did it. We're simply reacting.

Interesting point there. Maybe it is all about the corporate sales now. Maybe not. Pegula said he's counting on the PSL revenue to carry a good chunk of "his" share of the cost. They'll never be a "dumpster" as long as Allen's on the team. But make no mistake, this can easily turn into a team with Chargers or Bengals type appeal with Rivers or Dalton. It already seems that we're tracking for that, which is tragic given Allen. It comes with having a fanbase as passionate as ours is. We don't settle for underachieving mediocrity. During the Super Bowl years, playoff tickets weren't at all difficult to come by at face or less in the last season or two of our playoff run.

No, but at the same time it's clear that McD's got a ceiling. We'll see when STs/PSLs go on sale. It's foolish to think that the current situation isn't going to impact that.