PBF81

Next big speech, how to go on a roll using Jeffrey Dahmer.

LOL Indeed Skyy Moore's on it. That probably favors KC.

LOL McD's lucky he's still here, we'll disagree on that apparently. But hey, if he can win a championship, all this is going to be irrelevant.

Game day can't come quickly enough.

OK We're finished with this line.

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what you implied. Let's end this please. Who cares what I think. This situation isn't doing anything for team unity and it cannot possibly help for a game that's in three days. McD has difficulty enough preparing under normal circumstances, this is going to be an interesting game.

It's definiltely something new that makes his situation more untenable by the week now. It's just a matter of time at this point. Our performance on the field is hardly irrelevant also.

@Alphadawg7 Don't eyeroll it, answer it. It's a simple question, yes or no. The definition can't possibly be long.

It's never-ending, that's part of the problem.

Just another example of him unraveling a foot of the proverbial rope that he's gathered to hang himself with. Add everything up, game day related stuff, team stuff, Von Miller, 9/11 thing, etc. etc., it's simply befuddling.

And then some either by word or action, or lack of action.

OK, so let's drill down here. You're saying that you don't trust that he's telling the truth then? Spill it, what, exactly, are you saying about his sources? They don't exist? They're lying? You're word salad here is without direction. Just step out and say it. We're all family here. LOL

BTW, given our discussion, can you define "Complimentary Football" as McD states it? I can't wait to hear this. Really.

How would I know. So you're insinuating that he really hasn't then? If you were a journalist and relied upon confidentiality for your sources, you're saying you'd violate those unwritten agreements and tell the world who told you what? Come on ... that's a ridiculous question and you know it.

Your questions are tangents, that's why. All this tertiary crap, who cares. And when you come straight out and say that year by year established numbers aren't facts, .... LOL Let's just call this.

Does he have good assistants now, or simply yes-men that he dragged with him from a former team? There's not a single distinguished coach on this staff.

So you think that the people he's interviewing are lying because they're disgruntled then. OK Maybe. He's interviewed a lot of people, that's a lot of people to "agree" on those points if there's nothing there. Oh well, we'll find out more at some point. It's not all that important anyway. And what do you think they'd include in that in terms of how great of a head coach he is?

To the tune of 30 PPG or so?

BTW, much of what is in Dunne's piece has been obvious for a while. But as you say, if he truly is the guy portrayed in this article, even half of it as someone else said, this situation is going to go from bad to worse fairly quickly. Once stuff like this gets out and people, no doubt including players and coaches, talk, it's just a matter of time. As has been my contention all along, McD's slowly hanging himself after setting the scenario for it by giving himself all the rope he needs. You didn't do it. I didn't do it. We're irrelevant in the scenario. He's doing it to himself. When you preach character, and things like "The Process" but never define it, or "Complimentary Football" but never define it, etc., and things go south because of your own hypocrisy, people notice, whether they be players, coaches, fans, media, etc. I mean keeping Cook off the field for performance reasons, but applauding and fully standing behind Dorsey after mega failure, ... that sends a message whether he wants it to be sent or not. The players will run through a wall for Allen, would they do it for McD? Maybe that's what Diggs' beef was all about. One of the biggest things being mentioned in this thread, although not taking up much space, is that McD's assistants are all reliant upon him for their jobs, so they're unlikely to speak out. If they were all that great, then they wouldn't have trouble finding jobs elsewhere. It's quite possible that they're not, which is why they're so supportive. We don't have a single coach on this staff that has distinguished himself in any significant way in the NFL. Not one. That comes back to McD.

If for no other reason, I have no idea how you keep a head coach on with both the demonstrated as well as articulated (by himself) disconnect with the Allen and the Offense, which is the core strength of the team. If we were the Niners or Ravens, relying our D, maybe, but this gap in competence should be the elephant in the kitchen sink.

The biggest "surprise" takeaway is multiple people stating that McD is a factor that needs to be overcome to win at the highest levels, not one that contributes. That sentiment has been expressed by a wide variety of people, thereby rendering it unlikely that players and coaches, former or otherwise, do not also see that. Even if Dunne's lying through his teeth about players/coaches saying that, it's still blatant. Arguing over who believes it or said it would appear to be irrelevant.

So how do you explain the massive difference in scoring production from our first four weeks and since then? It can't be the competition, the caliber of defenses in Dorsey's next 6 games before being fired was poor, not a team currently ranked in the top-10, four of six ranked 20th or worse. The "blueprint" as you put it was out from last season, not new for this one. What's your explanation?

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought that a certain number of points on record was a fact. My bad. Things are clearing up as to our differences of opinion. So having said all of that, Dorsey's entirely at fault, McD bears only a modicum token of responsibility, and McD's responsible for how good Allen is? Is that how we all should read that? Again, I've never defended Dorsey, I have no idea why you're on my pant-leg about that. Let go already. LOL

No doubt. I'd part from McD because he's not competent enough. He's clearly never going to outcoach his playoff peers. That's a huge problem if you want to win a Championship, which is something that Pegula needs to understand and come to grips with, and make a decision regarding. But the biggest single and incredibly simplistic reason why I'd move on from McD is that there's a complete disconnect between him and the core strength of this team, namely Allen and the Offense. Watching him plug-n-play varying OCs, to date all having ties to W&M or Carolina, more on that in a moment, hoping to find the right one, because he clearly won't hire from elsewhere and get a better one, with my theory being the logical one that he refuses to hire anyone that won't do what he says despite his ignorance in the matter, and therefore won't hire a competent one for fear that he'll end up getting replaced because his own house, "Defense," is anything but in order come playoff time. As to W&M/Carolina, what on earth are the odds that the best candidates for that position to get the most from Josh & the O, were people with that background? Sure, it's possible, but it's also ridiculously unlikely. Don't know, but it was McD's decision much in the way that he was literally the only one in the world, including of his own coaching staff, that claimed that Peterman gave us the best chances of winning. Those decisions come with a price if they're wrong. Or should anyway, for a head coach. How many times can a head coach be so wrong about so many things and still be regarded as competent. His nepotistic ways are not helping him in this regard. Yeah, that's pretty much the substantiated narrative now. Again, we'll find out more once he's gone, whenever that is. But at some point it's likely that he loses the lockerroom, and I don't see that his decision re: Von Miller has helped him in that way, backed by Pegula. That's a bad look for the team, Bills' mafia, etc. Remember, he just fired two people that had a normal yet romantic relationship from his staff. Now he's letting a player with a past history of domestic abuse and in hot water at the moment for what looks to be more than "nothing," take the field. This is not decision-making by a rational person that constantly decries character.

No, it isn't complicated. But I'm not defending Dorsey. I never wanted Dorsey as an OC. I was always wait and see. So I have no idea what you're even referring to here. I'm anything but a Dorsey apologist. What you're doing is conflating the notion that I don't excuse McD from any of the current state of the team, with me being a Dorsey apologist. Sadly for you there's zero evidence of that. Sorry, there just isn't. Again, here are the facts. +84 of our current Point-Differential was due to an explosive offense in three of our first four games, after the Jets game that we went into entirely unprepared. That's for another thread though. Since then we're +17, -9 without the big game over the hapless Jets. Those are facts. Another fact is that McD's phrase, "complimentary football" did not make an appearance, at least not that I'm aware of, until after that point in time. Obviously something changed in our offense after we got back from England, or maybe even for that Jags game, either way, doesn't matter. That's also indisputable. So what was it? What, Dorsey just said "f-it, we're scoring too much, I need to slow this ship down." ? I'm not nor have ever defended Dorsey, in fact I don't defend any coach that's currently on this staff. Not one, not even Brady until he strings a half-season together consistently, which we'll find out here in December. But something changed, so what was it?