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Thank you. 🙂

That misses the point entirely.

Nothing to prevent, but a necessary charade, that defeats the purpose. No? Who cares, it'll happen the way that they want it. Why are we bickering over this?

Well, Jets the original post of yours that I originally replied to. Implied there is that we should all be, since you appear to be speaking for everyone, not sad (or other unhappy emotions) when we lose like were did this season to the Jets, New England, Denver, Cincy, the Jags, or even the Eagles. I'll keep my ears perked for the next time after an egregious loss, that one of the players, who knows, maybe Allen to confirm your point, says, 'I don't mind that we lost, I'm just happy to be playing here in Buffalo.' In short, your insisting that win or lose, playoffs or not, "appreciating that we have a good team" should trump all other feelings/emotions. Any notions or suggestions that there isn't a Bills fan out there that doesn't appreciate that we have Allen, with perhaps a few insignificant exceptions, is delusional. Implying that there are any Bills fans out there that don't appreciate Allen, .... really?

You're the one that brought race into it, not me. Your points are good, but it's also native to think that some form of a good ole boy network still doesn't exist, or sub-variations of one. Take our team for example, the senior staff is entirely connected to McD via Carolina. Dorsey was too and it's a real reach to think that he was the best candidate for the job over others that weren't. Insofar as race goes, I don't recall the interview process with him getting the gig over four others, including a black candidate, but I'd be curious whether that black candidate has done better than Dorsey here taking into account that Dorsey's had Allen. The irony is that the black candidates know that it's a sham and several have spoken out about it over the years. IIRC one even refused to interview a number of years ago realizing that he had no real chance of actually getting the job. I only asked because hiring from within should always be a free choice. Otherwise, as the OP posited, it seems that Brady's the one that they'll hire, so any such effort is obviously a charade. There's not much ambiguity there.

Bills - 13.5 O 42.5 Gotta love us and the Over, easily. Poor Jiminy Glick at QB.

Wow, pretty messed up. You should at least be able to promote from within without issue. Thx!!

So he can't be promoted from within before the season ends and kept on?

Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but as for myself, I personally will be tremendously disappointed if we miss out on the playoffs, or if we lose to pretty much any AFC team therein if we make it. Our roster, even with all of the injuries, that other teams have as well, is better than any in the AFC on the offensive side of the ball. In fact, there's not one team in the AFC that's close. But if you're content with that, great. I also don't see the players and team being satisfied with it either. Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe they'll be satisfied with an early exit too. Not much to argue about other than the nits that you're bringing up.

IDK, you'll have to talk to them about that. No "grousing" here. LOL I was and continue to be as happy as a clam in mud. Just a little perplexed as to why more games haven't been closer to that than closer to many of our others.

BTW, post a poll, let's find out. Q: Are you less satisfied when we underachieve with Allen as our QB, or equally satisfied whether we make the playoffs or not, or lose in the early rounds to inferior teams or not? A: Yes or No No team is perfect. Perfect and underachieving and losing to less competitive teams are two different things if we're going to be honest. Absolutely no one expects perfection, not even the most critical of fans. ... except in the GDT here. LOL

I'm pretty sure that if we miss the playoffs both the players/team and fans will disagree. Otherwise, totally unrelated? Well, OK.

Well, and again, it's easier to appreciate what you have when you make the most of it, not underachieve with it. Then it becomes more difficult to accept. Pretty simple.

This will be a blowout if even half the effort of what showed up yesterday hits the field to open the game. Jiminy Glick will be overwhelmed. Our @Chargers curse will finally be broken.

Red did what he did on longevity. In 16 seasons he posted only four 1,000 yards seasons. Only for times in the top 10 for TDs and only the times on the top 10 for yards, peaking at 5th in both. ... to your point that is.

That makes sense Gunner! But I would also add that the players themselves get sad when the season ends prematurely, aka no Championship. Their expectations are for nothing less than a Championship, so why shouldn't ours be. We do need to appreciate what we have, but consider, we have Allen. I told the guy sitting next to me at the Bills Backer bar yesterday that I sometimes still can't believe that we have Allen, the most exciting, if perhaps not the fan/media-favorite "best" (Mahomes), QB in the league, quite possibly in league history. If we could build a QB in a lab made for Buffalo, Allen is that QB. Having said that, the bar is a little bit higher, particularly for those of us fans that actively went through the four-year string of Super Bowl losses. When you have Allen, the QB leading the charge in the topic of this thread, it's almost tragic to not win a Lombardi, or even multiple ones. It's certainly not beyond the realm of reason to question why that did not occur and then to hope for the requisite changes. Not too many people after losses to New England, the Jets, Jax, Denver, and near losses to the Giants and Bucs, were too happy afterwards. It was pretty dismal here in fact. LOL What bothers many is how we did what we did yesterday, but then lost all of those aforementioned games. Frankly, we should be 11-3 or 12-2 right now, shaking hands with the #1 Seed and homefield advantage. Instead, we're hoping to squeeze in as a Wild-Card with help from other teams, again, as we did in 2017, McD's inaugural season with Taylor. Having said that, you know that I posted prior to and earlier in the season, that I'd rather get that 7th Seed, sneak in unassumingly, and win the whole damn enchilada. But consider, right now the pattern from the season is that we might be able to beat Baltimore, KC, or Miami in the playoffs, but that getting past Jax, Cleveland, Cincy, Indy or Houston might be a problem. ... purely for the sake of discussion that is. Yesterday was phenominal, and what has been expected all season by many of us, but where has that team been? Was yesterday just another emotional blip in home-team energy against a team that spent itself last week in a more important game, or are we on a roll and peaking? That's anyone's guess. Let's hope it's the latter. Anyway, the point to your post was that winning a Championship has to figure in there somewhere given that we do in fact have Allen. If our QB were Taylor, Fitzpatrick, or any of the others we've had since Kelly, then yeah, just getting to the playoffs would be satisfactory and watching the games without those expectations would be reasonable. But when you do in fact have Allen, and when it's considered that other coaches would have done more with Allen, then it hurts and probably should, and the bar is much much higher. Not trying to stir things up, but also not sure it's fair to yank a Championship/Lombardi out of the mix for fan contentment, when even the players and coaches aren't content with that. Fully agree with you on those that take their lamentations into the week and let it affect their personal lives however. It would be a whole lot easier to handle had we actually won one or two of those Super Bowls, as we should have then as well. But as Bills fans, or any fans, by default we set ourselves up for sadness by being fans, when our teams do not play to the level of their talent. That's simply natural.

Yeah, I remember that, but also, or division sucked rhino nuts for six games every season too. Throw in a few more games against siht teams, ... Just sayin'. Dallas is one of the two best teams in the league arguably, it's likely that they square off against SF for the NFC championship. If we can beat them ... 🤞

That's always concerning. Vegas doesn't like to lose. Either way, we need Diggs to step up in this game. He's averaged only 4 catches for 40 yards with only one TD over the past four games, and a 49% Catch%. It's a slump he needs to shake this week.

So you think that Baltimore & Jax have better receivers than we did then? BTW, Kincaid has both the highest Catch% & Success% of any TEs in the league. ... as a rookie.

Brady gets props for doing it with Brown, Patten, Branch, & Givens though too. I'm not sure that there's a 1,000-yard season in the batch.

Miami too. And for all the complaining we do about our receivers, in the AFC the only teams that arguably have better receivers than we do are Cincy and Miami. But Cincy's on a backup QB and Miami has Him and Waddle, that's it. If one of them goes down they're in a world of hurt and will have to turn to their "Sherfield" again. Diggs, Davis, Kinaid, and Shakir have about 2,600 Yards & 18 TDs. Chase, Boyd, & Higgins have about 2,100 Yards & 11 TDs. Hill & Waddle have about 2,400 Yards & 15 TDs. No other receiver on their team has more than 207 yards or 2 TDs. We easily have the best receiving TE, possibly in the AFC, given Kelce's age & looming retirement.

Funny you say that, in a league where everything is about money, why would that not include this general topic. Goodell & the Owners water this league down for an extra buck any chance they can get. More games, probably more playoff teams, increasingly more games in more countries, probably more teams, etc. It may be naive to think that they'd let officiating stand in their way. We see players & coaches complain about the officiating, but how often do we see owners publicly complain about the officiating for their teams. It's not as if they don't have the money for the fine.

Be nice to know who the OC is going to be and what their plans for the O are first. Some team will surely relish him in a role that he's more suited to.

STD: 187 snaps, 2 tackles (1 solo/1 asst.), 3 QBHits, 0 Sacks, 0 TFLs.

No doubt. But the point is that our OL could have been a whole lot better but we've never done much to make it that way when Allen's the centerpiece of our entire team.