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Well, if you read the piece, and based on your comments above it would seem that you didn't, what you said would make a ton of sense in perspective. Read it. What you say will make a ton of sense in the proper context.

Maybe he did something to his friend's mom.

It's called hypocrisy in any other circumstance.

At the same time, the only (few too) players that have independently defended him, have been on the defensive side of the ball. And Hyde's a DB too, one of the first brought on by McD whose love is the Secondary. His support should have been expected. I'm awaiting the supportive comments from the offensive players. And Allen's silence is hardly inconspicuous, particularly given the supposed gap in any type of relationship between the two, personal or professional. Diggs too, who's clearly aligned with Allen. How about some of the offensive coaches? Where's this massive thrust of support, it isn't there. I'm not a big fan of sports media, I draw my own conclusions and only read local/regional stuff related to the Bills. But a Cowherd brief came up on my phone and I listened to it, and he's right, when players and coaches cannot approach their head coach, ultimately they'll end up going to the media. As Bills fans we should be happy that so many of them actually care about winning before they leave here while leaving the place undesireable for free-agents due to the head coach. And honestly, it's now no secret that McD was PO'd when the WRs gave Hall a truck for Christmas? Do you defend that behavior by McD? For just one point even. Is that a good trait, a consistent trait for what he preaches, for a head coach? Your thoughts on that? Seems to me that should bother everyone.

It's going to be very interesting the changes in views here in just five weeks.

That's fine, but then at the same time I fail to see how such morally oriented people feel so free to comment on his work, considering that 90-some percent of it is behind the paywall, and discuss his motives in compiling the piece, which obviously took many months and wasn't written in a week as so many of those "forthright" people have speculated. If the coach were Jauron back in the day and the topic was the opposite, some writer working up a great piece about what a competent coach he is and great guy, how do you think those same people that refused to read something that they feel fully qualified to comment on would say/do re: that. (rhetorical) Patronize, don't patronize, but when the reason is pure emotion, it's terminally disingenuous to do what they claim he's doing to McD, despite a mountain of evidence much of it well known publicly, to him.

Given this, you should definitely take the time to read it.

You're on a roll BTW! 👍👍

It's more like a small book. ... about 80 pages. Very well written. Well worth the $8. Pay, download, cancel. 🙂

It'll be interesting to see where the foreign interest is when they have their own team rather than seeing two established teams play in a particular city one or twice a year. Will they sell out like they do if they have a mediocre team. They probably would given how the game/league is geared towards corporate interests these days. Yeah, it was maybe seven or eight years ago I think that the league said it would have its first international team by '22 or '23, around now. I can't recall if they said it would be England or what.

Sure, remind me tomorrow. I'm bushed.

I'm happy to answer that via PMs. I'm not sure I should post much more in the forum. I've posted a lot in responding to others. I try to never be a wise guy. LOL I'm genuinely interested in sincere, substantive, and objective discussions. I'm not a "see I told you so" type and I go out of my way to not gloat or the like. I don't see why that's necessary and all it does is invite ad hominems.

I never said all. But I posted intimations that things weren't going to go right for McD this season. Took tons of heat for it too. Frankly, the extent of it it, even before Dunne's piece, has surprised even me.

Myself for one, but others as well. I posted it semi-regularly.

Sorry to take issue, but the broken records are the McD apologists that can't even imagine that perhaps he has terminal issues.

Yeah, maybe. Isn't Brady a pretty huge risk as a HC however? His background and incredibly limited accomplishments to date, of what's there, don't exactly scream out best choice. A guy like Ben Johnson as some are heavily advocating for would seem to be a much better option.

I stand by that. There's zero chance that with the support of the fans and community that McDoesn'tKnow continues to stay on for much longer. I give him next season tops. What Pegula does is anyone's guess, but relegating this team to a higher caliber version of the Sabres is not in his best interests.

Sounds as if those that understand McD realize that you have to ignore him in order to be at your best sometimes. As Dunne points out in his piece as well as logic dictates, Brady is also interviewing for a job simultaneously, he likely doesn't want to piss a temperamental McD off. Should be interesting. Yeah, that's the 1-0 Niners. We beat a team that finished 6-10 and we played them with Nick Mullens at QB.

Interesting that you say that, because by their survey, the new prices are going to mimic the aftermarket prices here a lot more closely than they will the current pricing structure, and that w/o the consideration of PSLs. I'm simply curious when these alluded to virtual tours are going to start for those interested in buying future seasons/PSLs and willing to drop the $150 non-refundable deposit that's reportedly required to do so.

I'd strongly suggest taht you read Dunne's entire article. If you want to agree with the many sources he's cited, or call them liars, feel free. You won't hurt my feelings. But as I recall, many of the things that we now know to be absolute fact, were contested by McD's apologists as hearsay, nonsense, and without any substance or basis whatsoever. So that hasn't aged well. Otherwise, this really isn't all that important to me. McD's days are numbered and that's his own doing, not mine, Dunne's, nor anyone else's. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Completely agree! Thanks for pointing that out. It's a great piece, and contrary to the notions that Dunne whipped it up on short-order and simply decided to release it now, that's ridiculous. The amount of time and effort that clearly went into it must've taken many months at least. Well before the start of the season. But yeah, the piece says some positive things too, but it's also clear that those positives are McD's ceiling, and that he simply doesn't have the polished nuances that are necessary for the team to optimize the play of the team. Those things have also gone noticed by most people here as well however, but we've simply not had the hard evidence to validate them.

Well, per your control-freak comment, which we now fully know has a lot of validity to it, the odds as you imply are probably zero. LOL As you say however, if Brady has the stones to simply let the D cut loose like Daboll did, then as is the schtick re: McMeltdown, we may overcome our biggest impediment, our illustrious head coach. It would be pretty exciting though to make the playoffs as the 7th-Seed, then go on to win the Super Bowl. I almost think I'd rather have it that way in fact. GO BILLS!!!

Again, the one thing that you're not ackowledging, is statements by both current as well as former players, stating outright, that anyone that says something that McD doesn't agree with, much less challenges or disagrees with him, is chastised or castigated by him. That hardly fosters a culture of openess. You seem to ignore that entirely. Again, we'll see as time goes on, more will come out. It's not as if we have any say over any of this. And when you said "Poyer agrees" above, it's clear that McD treats his DBs differently than he does the rest of the team. That's been blatant to outsiders for years.

We'll see, hopefully that's the case. My personal take is that I'd rather make the playoffs as the 7th seed and win the Super Bowl than have the 1st seed and choke in the divisional round. I know that that speaks for just about all Bills fans if not every one. Having said that, few if any of us ever imagined that we'd be at the 11th spot currently reliant upon, in essence, winning out, or at least finishing 4-1 for that 7th seed. No matter how we slice it, McDoesn'tKnow is an element that needs to be overcome in these games for us to do whatever it is that we're going to do. Whether that happens, Sunday will be the first final piece of that puzzle. Hopefully this is that "unlikely" season where we overcome all the odds, including that of the 7th seed and worst team (record wise) in the playoffs, to win a Lombardi. If we're in it even, I'm going up to Buffalo, even if I have to go alone. LOL GO BILLS!!!

Been thinking about this a little bit more. Did you read Dunne's piece, the whole thing, not simply the free part? It's well worth the $8 alone if you want to understand the current state of this team. Among the handful of core takeaways are that players are loathe to speak their minds to McD for fear of retribution of one sort or another. That coming from current players/coaches as well. So to your point, and many of us have come to this conclusion independently well before this Dunne piece came out, which BTW, he'd been researching and compiling for quite some time, it seems that the highly praised "culture" here is precariously teetering on the fence leaning towards falling into the toxic category. Contrary to the thoughts of many as posted, that he woke up last week or a few weeks ago, and decided to write it and release it off the cuff.