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Three OCs in as many seasons, and you pin it all on Josh? Really?

Well, this is what the defense typically brings for a do-or-die game. Josh has always bailed us out in these games. If we manage to win, it'll be Josh again, not the D. Cook, just as in five other games under Brady beside Dallas isn't doing much. Of course none of this has to do with McD. Naturally not.

If we win this it's going to be because Allen steps up. Not for any other reason.

Agreed, Josh really needs to tighten up the D in the second half or the Fins will have nearly 500 yards, with two of their best three offensive skill-position players out. Davis bears some responsibility for the poor D as well. McD, he's been clean, no issues there, ... of course. Otherwise, ... seriously?

We're certainly being outplayed on both sides of the ball and in coaching.

Diggs on a screen. LOL

Something about he shouldn't have thrown it in the field of play, he should have thrown it to the endzone. Maybe if someone in the End Zone had been schemed open. Either way, that's BS, you don't say that. Meanwhile, his D has sucked gigalo balls.

You'd think some thought and creativity in taking advantage of the Miami (22nd ranked) defensive alignments wouldn't be too much to ask. Looks as if we may have Allen's 4th OC in as many seasons next year. Gee, I wonder why he isn't more settled.

Agreed, but the fact that once again in a playoff atmosphere, our D is AWOL, shouldnt be overlooked. Allowing 218 yards and 13 1st-Downs to a depleted Miami offense, how TF are we doing to do next week with Waddle and Mostert added back in. In our first game with Miami we had the advantage of 2 TOs by them, none by us. Now we have two TOs, despite the fact that they have one, and it's a completely opposite game. SMFH Meanwhile, McD throwing Allen under the bus just before the half in the exit interview. Also SMFH!

Same for blaming the OC and QB for allowing 218 yards and 13 1st-Downs in the first half alone. Once again, our Defense goes AWOL in a "playoff game."

Three different OCs in as many seasons. Makes one wonder whether he's ph'd up because of that.

Enjoy the game Chans!

He also hasn't been in the league for 9 seasons. If you want to use that comp at least be honest and cite Agholor's first two seasons where he averaged just over 300 yards. That's part of the problem here, you and others can't be honest with your arguments. It makes it impossible to have an honest discussion. No sense in trying further. Enjoy the game! Of course not, otherwise you'd have to do a little bit more thinking on your postion re: McD. I understand.

So you don't think then, by implication, that we're better than the Steelers, Texans, Browns, Fins, and Chiefs ... this season? Well, OK. Otherwise, using that as an excuse every season, well, that's a huge part of the problem that we're having in these discussions between the two sides. LOL You don't know me, you couldn't be more wrong. You sound like the type that runs on emotions and fuels your arguments that way. You a woman? Asking for a friend.

Presumably you would agree that there's zero excuse, given the field, of not at minimum making the AFC CG, right?

OK, so Allen better than Lamar. Cook better and more versatile than Edwards who has very limited utility as a receiver and is more power back than speedster with agility like Cook. As to the WRs, let's stick to the group as a whole. Which is better, ... Flowers, OBJ, Andrews, Likely, and Agholor ... or .... Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Knox, and Shakir? Don't leave Diggs and Kincaid out of the discussion and try to pass it off as if Baltimore has better WRs. Which team has the better top five WRs/TEs? You say that Likely is a vet, he's in his second season as a late 4th round draft pick. Hardly a seasoned vet. Agholor in 9 seasons has averaged about 500 yards and 4 TDs. Hardly much more than a JAG. Flowers is a rookie. Is there a reason why their WRs/TEs are more consistent and why their offense averages 1.5 PPG more than we do when their leading RB and leading WR don't even approach the production of ours? Thank you for a decent answer. We'll never know, but I'm curious what John Harbaugh would do with Allen as his QB over Jackson. It's time! GO BILLS!!!!

Of course they have. But why? Better talent? Why is their offense performing better than ours? The question can keep getting asked; Is Jackson better than Allen; Edwards better than Cook; Flowers, OBJ, Andrews, Likely, and Agholor better than Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Knox, and Shakir? Why are they performing better? They're certainly performing more consistently. Why? Is it their level of talent that's superior to ours on offense?

Indeed. Mr. Process Mr. Complimentary Football Mr. I Wish I Knew Mr. "I Didn't Do It"

Let's hope that all of this emotional tough talk isn't sentient. That's not the question. Would you like to answer the question, or evade and tiptoe around it? Which ones are playing better, and why? Are they better players?

So you think that Jackson > Allen; Edwards > Cook; and the Ravens' WRs/TEs > than our WRs/TEs then? ... by implication.

Okay is right, hardly superlatively. Either way, the biggest games of the season are yet to come. McD apologists can see a cork put into the mouths of the rest with at least an AFC Championship. Unless of course we're not as good a Pitt/Pickett and their 27th ranked offense, Cleveland/Flacco and their 9th ranked O and 11th ranked D, Houston/the rookie Stroud and their 14th ranked O and 13th ranked D, the backslidden Chiefs and their 12th ranked O being carried by an old TE and a rookie WR, or Miami and their 21st ranked D. Baltimore, maybe, but is Jackson better than Allen; Edwards better than Cook; Flowers, OBJ, Andrews, Likely, and Agholor better than Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Knox, and Shakir? If not, a good question would be how Baltimore is getting more out of them than we are out of ours. Don't you think?

BTW, you had asked earlier where/when we had discussed coaching before saying we hadn't. This thread is one of the several places.

The problem is that the worst ones are in the playoffs to end out hopes. Let's see what happens this season yet. Who knows, we may win it all and then we're all whistling past the graveyard in a manner of speaking.

Just sayin', it didn't cost them a pick. ... regardless of anything else.

Yeah, they did, and it didn't even cost them a draft spot. But yeah, the Jags were their own worst enemy today also. At least we're in although we'll all be a whole lot happier if we win tonight. Be nice if we win and Houston or Cleveland goes to Baltimore in the D-round with the Ravens rusty and beats them, putting the AFC CG in Buffalo.