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Ryan O'Halloran - Bills should go Defense Heavy in draft
PBF81 replied to BCAS Baritone's topic in The Stadium Wall
Sure, let's draft some more CBs, DEs, and LBs. Allen can overcome the seemingly consistent lack of WRs by running more. SMH -
Would love to see that because the stats I just put up don't lie. There's a huge difference between 14.5 YPR and 8.8, much more between 7 and 1 TDs. If you have the link I'd love to see it. I'm pretty sure it's quite easily debunkable.
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He caught 6 balls for 86 yards and a TD two weeks prior, for 14.3 YPR, 5.5 YPR greater than his average under Brady. The week prior, with Dorsey already taking heat, who knows how impacting his play-calling, Diggs still led the WRs and Allen only completed 15 passes. Diggs still average 11.3 YPR, more than all but two games under Brady, and only marginally less in those two games. So that's not a true statement. When Brady took over, that's when we saw his routes turn into short OTMs, short outs, and other nonsense more suited to slot WRs or guys out of the backfield. At the end of the day we're hardly dealing with premier OCs here. That's on McD. We'll figure it out. I get the impression that Allen doesn't care, because he has a fairly care-free life. He's disappointed in the season, but he also seems quite content to get away from football and go on his annual golfing and travel spree. Great for him, really. Quite frankly little if any of this is his fault. I'm sure he needs to get away from this insanity just as much as many fans do now too.
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Here's the problem with that, KC was very beatable. OK, so we didn't have our A-game CBs in the game. Which of KC's WRs needed A-game CB defenders to defend them? Have you taken the time to actually look at KC's WRs? Rice is the only good one they have and he's a rookie, also playing in his first NFL playoff games. After him their next two leading WRs, at 460 and 315 Yards, with 3 and 1 TDs, boy howdy, both have catch%'s of 50%. Why do we need Tre White and Douglas to cover trash like that? Shakir's easily better than any of them. Hasty's probably better than any of them. And Kelce being wide open had absolutely nothing to do with talent. If the 5'6" Hasty were covering Kelce then perhaps that might make some sense. But there was absolutely no one covering him. That's not a talent issue. We were and are by far, the better team. To lose like that at home is inexcusable. That was the game we've all been waiting for and we, really McD, failed. It's even easier to take a position like that. Look, this notion that any of our coaches that got us close but no cigar, IOW to say 7-9, 8-8, or 9-7, but failed to make the playoffs, wouldn't coach this team to make the playoffs. McD's never had it easier than any of them. He got the easiest schedule that we've had since 2008 this season and other than that the easiest. He barely made the playoffs. He's had the luxury of not having to play the Brady-led Pats for two losses every season, and still, with Mac Jones at the helm the best he could muster is 5-2. His 9-7 in 2017 was worse than any other 9-7 or even 8-8 that this team had during the drought years, was easily the worst of the six 9-7 teams that failed to make the playoffs that season, and he made the playoffs purely for reasons of luck. Does NE dominate the division like they did during our drought years to the tune of all but two guaranteed losses every season for us? What if all of those teams go to face NE (and every other team) with Allen while NE had the likes of a Mac Jones (or Bledsoe) slinging the ball for them? What, that's not good for a few games? How many games did we win this season purely because Allen was our QB? The Steeler playoff game was one to advance us to this past game. We can probably add both Miami games, the second Jets game, the Raiders game, the Chargers game, the first KC game and maybe another couple. Imagine this team as coached by McD with our drought era QBs on the team. Who even envisions that team even merely making the playoffs. It's a fool's argument to suggest that that's the case. You say that it's real easy to become impatient in football per this topic. But it's even easier to be so afraid of missing out on an existing standard that ain't cutti' the mustard, in favor of something far greater. It's irrational, but many are so afraid of a return to the drought era days, that we've become complacent and content with winning the regular season, and even less than mediocrity come playoff time with our biggest failures being the supposed strength of our head coach. The entire thing reads like a parody. It's beyond comprehension.
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So you're of the mind that the moment that Brady became the OC that Diggs couldn't separate anymore? Well, OK. I'm not buying that narrative though. With Dorsey as the OC, Diggs was on pace for about 120 catches for about 1,500 yards, and 12 TDs. With Brady as the OC, over the course of 17 regular season games, he was averaging a pace for about 82 catches, 930 yards, and 2 TDs. It's a real reach to consider that Diggs' "ability to separate" fell off a cliff pretty much in line with the promotion of Brady to OC. It's a lot more likely that Brady's doing what McD instructs him to do according to McD's version of "complimentary football," which essentially means the offense supporting the defense, and that production, both Allen's as well as Diggs' in the passing game, has fallen off. But hey, for the people that seem to believe that Diggs remarkable became unable to separate at the ripe old age of 30, just turned 30 even, was purely coincidental with Brady commanding the offense, that's fine too. Remember, all we can do is to discuss what's going on, none of us has the ability to change a thing.
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He's also largely running stupid routes given his strengths. It would seem that part of McD's "complimentary football" is not logging too many big plays. It was a roaring success in that way this past Sunday vs. KC. Can't wait to see next season's unceremonious Division-Round ouster from the playoffs. SMH
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That's a decent analysis. What's interesting, yet not included, is that Allen has a similar pattern of play from first-half of season to second-half of season as well, although not quite as pronounced, yet nonethless. What's interesting about this season's division, is that it occurred pretty much when Brady was promoted to replace Dorsey. Doesn't anyone find it suspicious that before Brady took over Diggs had 73 catches for 868 Yards, 7 TDs, and perhaps most tellingly, 11.9 YPR, in 10 games, but after Brady took over, in a similar 9 games, had 44 catches for 388 Yards, 1 TD, and 8.8 YPR? or 3 YPR fewer? Prior to Brady Diggs had 7 of 10 games in double-digit YPR. After Brady Diggs had 3 of 9 games in double-digit YPR with a max of 12.4. In rank order, here are Diggs games ranked by Brady/non-Brady in terms of YPR; 1st thru 4th: non-Brady 5th thru 7th: Brady 8th thru 13th: non-Brady 14th thru 19th: Brady That's a unmistakably clear pattern. So we're to assume that Diggs remarkably fell out of the catergory of greatness, besides being a few years earlier than is typical for a WR, once Brady took over then? That sounds like a narrative built for fools. What's going on is simple. In a nutshell, McD's notion of "complimentary football" is the offense supporting the Defense, the only thing he knows anything about. He lacks the coaching skills to maximize the team as a team and has to continue to make the D the focal point, fighting common sense, media and fan knowledge predicated upon years of history, and his own ego to continue to have his Defense shine. It's beyond the pale that we have a team led by what will end up being one of the great QBs in NFL history, but the focal point and emphasis in the offseasons have been defense until perhaps this past draft, and even then, we underutilized Kincaid and our passing game. It shouldn't at all be surprising if Diggs asks for a trade and shines next season on a team that understands modern football. McD's methodologies have tried to turn Diggs into a short-yardage WR. SMH
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Not sure that there's much wiggle room for critizing Allen. He's the only reason why we've made the playoffs on McD's watch. His running game in particular. His passing game is being suppressed in the interests of "complimentary football." The fact that he's done and doing what he's done and does with the absolute minimal level of support from Beane to date, while he and McD perpetually tinker with McD's mentally unhealthful pet D, is remarkable in and of itself. Anyone criticizing Allen, at all, doesn't have a clear picture of what's going on with the team.
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That's the core of the entire debate. Are we the only team in the league with a great QB that has only very minimally tried to do that. It would seem to be common sense that if you Draft Allen, build around him. Apparently that's an insurmountable mental hurdle for McD, in all sincerity. He's playing more like Richardson did at Florida than as someone with the strongest arm in the NFL that can make any throw. That's the way they now have it under Brady.
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Or do much to stop their running game, Pacheco's 2nd-best yards-per-carry game of the season and 4th best yards-from-scrimmage performance. The question is whether we did all that we could do, including, once again, not making boneheaded decisions and conservative play-calling leading to 3.6 Yards-per-Play in the 2nd Half with once again, seemingly zero ability to adjust, thereby getting out-coached again in the playoffs, etc. We clearly did not. The excuses provided on McDivision's behalf are seemingly endless.
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Doesn't anyone find it suspicious that before Brady took over Diggs had 73 catches for 868 Yards, 7 TDs, and perhaps most tellingly, 11.9 YPR, in 10 games, but after Brady took over, in a similar 9 games, had 44 catches for 388 Yards, 1 TD, and 8.8 YPR? Prior to Brady Diggs had 7 of 10 games in double-digit YPR. After Brady Diggs had 3 of 9 games in double-digit YPR with a max of 12.4. In rank order, here are Diggs games ranked by Brady/non-Brady in terms of YPR; 1st thru 4th: non-Brady 5th thru 7th: Brady 8th thru 13th: non-Brady 14th thru 19th: Brady So we're to assume that Diggs remarkably fell out of the catergory of greatness, besides being a few years earlier than is typical for a WR, once Brady took over then? That sounds like a narrative built for fools. What's going on is simple. In a nutshell, McD's notion of "complimentary football" is the offense supporting the Defense, the only thing he knows anything about. He lacks the coaching skills to maximize the team as a team and has to continue to make the D the focal point, fighting common sense, media and fan knowledge predicated upon years of history, and his own ego to continue to have his Defense shine. It's beyond the pale that we have a team led by what will end up being one of the great QBs in NFL history, but the focal point and emphasis in the offseasons have been defense until perhaps this past draft, and even then, we underutilized Kincaid and our passing game. It shouldn't at all be surprising if Diggs asks for a trade and shines next season on a team that understands modern football. McD's methodologies have tried to turn Diggs into a short-yardage WR. SMH
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You missed the point. The fake punt was not called by Smiley, it was called for by McD. It was ill-advised out of the gate, and as many people have pointed out, using Hamlin to run it? Honestly, even as the play is developing I found myself saying WTF. Meanwhile, the message that it sends it that Allen can't overcome that punt on offense. Be it as it may, we can pin that on Smiley, but McD knew who would be carrying the ball on that one and could have come up with another option. Even their defense wasn't fooled, that's how predictable McD has become. We averaged 3.6 Yards-per-Play in the 2nd Half. 3.6!! To add some perspective to that, the absolute worst DFL team in the league in YPP on the season was Carolina at 4.1. This game was a clinic game on how, once again, McD was outcoached (via being terminally [literally there re: the team]) out-adjusted by Reid in the 2nd-Half. Adjusting is a glaring weakness of McD, seven seasons in as a HC. It's shameful. You're right, our STs wasn't good this season, but that's not the reason why we lost on Sunday. McD is, ... once again. Terminate Smiley if they want, it won't change anything. He's simply the next scapegoat in the never-ending string of 'em.
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Sheffield was a waste of $1.8M, more than Davis gets btw, and had the worst catch% of anyone on the team at 50.0%. He didn't qualify in the rankings for lack of catches, a self-made problem for him, but of the WRs that did qualify, only four we're worse. Three of them had crap QBs and the other was a rookie. We knew this upon signing him, he has a career 55.3% catch%, which is abysmal. Entirely unreliable as we saw in our last two playoff games.
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Again, the flaw in that logic is multifold, and you McD apologists won't ever acknowledge it, but just about any coach can get this team to make the playoffs. I mean seriously, is it actually a sensible argument that given the roster we're had, and the division that we're in, that it's even remotely difficult to make the playoffs? If anything it should be beyond clear that we've underachieved this season. Twice, in 2017 and this season we've needed much luck to make the playoffs, and we got it. The standards, injuries and other stuff, that we cry over as reasons why we lost our lose, we entirely dismiss in examining or wins, like our narrow win over the Chargers who were without a premier QB, a premier WR, and a premier DE. At the end of the day, here's what McD's Complimentary Football means, it means highlighting his defense, and having our offense adjust for purposes of doing that, or complimenting that. Why? Probably because given that McD admittedly doesn't know offense, he wants to be regarded as great, and that's the only way he knows how to do it. It's short-sighted thinking of that's the case. It also explains why our offense is treated like a red-headed stepchild. Again, if we had drafted Allen before McD had gotten here, the odds of McD getting the gig would asymptotically approached zero. McD now admittedly doesn't know much if anything about offense. Why on earth anyone supports a head coach like that at this point when we have Allen, a generational talent at QB, is inexplicable. It makes no sense. In this piece Dunne puts it succinctly by saying that he's turning Allen into a Tannehill that can run. It's not even a mystery, it's palpably blatant. ... for anyone with any objectivity. Statistically, the "eye test," etc. Among the increasing proof in the pudding is that it offense is now regressing from season to season for no apparent reason. We just drafted one of the best set of hands as a TE and made two solid improvements to our OL, which has been a huge problem until this season. We should never expect our entire OL to get through a season injury free again, ever. Yet, or offense is worse in PPG than any of Allen's last four seasons. This isn't difficult to figure out. Emotions are getting in the way of those that don't. Wake me when McD hires an OC that would have the potential to replace him. Won't ever happen! It's OJTs and yes-men, that's who will continue to be our OCs on his watch. People that he can control to ensure that our offense supports his defensive strategies in the veiled disguise of "complimentary football." Sounds great, it works like siht in the playoffs. But hey, it makes us winners of the regular season every season. Heaven forbid we actually take a chance and actually try to win a Lombardi. Better to simply hope that we get hot for four games once we make the playoffs against much better coached teams. Too many people appear to be so afraid of "not making the playoffs," rather than realizing that we're squandering much greater opportunity. It really is a bit mind-boggling. Not that we have any say in the matter anyway, so it's nothing to get at each other over, just sayin'. Works for me. Expect a CB in the first though. Remember who's in charge, ultimately. BTW, you'd also have to actually play those rookies a lot. Would that happen under this coach. (Rhetorical).
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Next scapegoat. Was it him that called for that play to begin with? No, it was obviously McDividionsl-Round's decision. You're right, it'll probably cost him his job, but he got handed a *****.
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Mr. Pegula please read Tyler Dunne’s newest article
PBF81 replied to NeverOutNick's topic in The Stadium Wall
Well, to be fair, many of his suppositions are widespread. Here's how one ex-Bill starter put it: “There’s so many coaches that you can just name and plug in there and they won’t be worse.” The Bills have the quarterback capable of reaching the Super Bowl, yet asked Josh Allen to be Ryan Tannehill. Because Allen is still Allen, he can still find a way to be special under these rigid circumstances. Those are wide spread beliefs. And for real, did McD really say this; “When you look back to the AFC Championship, our first playoff meeting with Kansas City, it wasn’t close,” McDermott said. “It really wasn’t. We were at a different point. They were at a different point. Now, it is close. That shows you the strides we’ve made over the years. ..." It's statements like that that beg the question as to how bright the man really is. We've actually gotten worse, fewer points scored on offense, more allowed on defense for us since '21. Both our O and D rank 3 spots worse this season than back then. KC's offense OTOH is a shell of what it was in '21, they're scoring nearly a TD/game less. Kelce was in the tail end of his prime then, and they had the best WR in the league, Tyreek Hill. We didn't gain on them other than relatively, any gains made were due to KC's diminishment, not our improvement. McD's deluded if truly believes his own BS. There's no way anyone can legitimately spin it any way other than the difference being KC's offense being a shell of what it once was. ..., which LOL, if true, merely ads more fuel to the time-for-McDivisional-Round-Loss to go. Otherwise, given all of that in the article, it explains why we play to the level of our competition. "Complimentary Football" in McD's mind is just that, about our strategy of staying close. -
A whole lot of that is creating your plays, play-calling, and overall scheme to match the talents of your WRs. Beyond that it's a Beane issue. But hey, when you never draft a WR on days 1 or 2, ... As they say, you'll never hit unless you buy a ticket.
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It's been obvious just watching it over the past two months too.
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Can We End This Nonsense About Homefield Advantage Now?
PBF81 replied to K D's topic in The Stadium Wall
Our entire second half sucked. We averaged 3.6 YPP and failed to make any key adjustments at all, as usual. 3.6!! That was with our perfectly healthy offense. Davis was out, but he sucks and we're better without him we've been lectured. KC did. This loss, contrary to the injury narratives, is on coaching. Our perfectly healthy DL couldn't generate any pressure or stop their run. Their cast of WRs are hardly daunting, it shouldn't have taken Tre in his prime and our starters to handle them, they're backup caliber WRs. Meanwhile, how does a wide open Kelce have anything to do with talent? That might make sense if Elam was on him, but NO ONE was. No talent. He was uncovered. We're didn't even try on that one and several others. And how is it that we play great for a half and collapse in the second half, yet it's talent. If it were talent we'd have been outplayed in the first half too. We did not adjust at all, much less effectively. Once again, McD was playing not to lose and was out-coached. He's not a playoff coach, plain and simple. We can continue to pretend that he is, but that does not change anything. -
Can We End This Nonsense About Homefield Advantage Now?
PBF81 replied to K D's topic in The Stadium Wall
And last season ... Wildcard weekend: 4 out of 6 home teams won. Divisional round: 3 out of 4 home teams won. We're the only home team to have lost in the Divisional round the past two seasons. Neither are the best coaches. -
It was a desperation move. The only reason he was signed was because none of Beane's drafted edge-rushers turned into anything reliable or were looking promising. But again, that was a high-risk move. When you take risks and they don't own out, that shouldn't absolute the risk takers. For some of reason our drafted players take longer to develop than other teams' top draft picks that develop do. This past draft, Beane's 6th, is the sole exception.
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He was all-in on Brady just like he was all-in on Dorsey. Maybe just get a game-manager QB with running skills. That's really what McD needs. Times three or four in a row.
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Too bad this isn't open for bidding. I'd bid $2M for one tackle, get hauled off on a stretcher, go on IR, and retire.
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Wash, rinse, repeat. Win the division, everyone gets excited, then lose in the Divisional Round. Oh, and by all means, don't draft a WR, make sure we draft a CB. Round 2 another DE. After all, our OL was perfectly healthy this season, we can count on that again. (sarcasm)
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McDimwit almost always gets out-adjusted. It happened again yesterday. The running game was working great in the 1st half. Reid adjusted. McD did not. It cost us the game. Imagine if we don't get that touchback fumble recovery. This game ends up more like the '20 game @ KC. Horrific judgement in letting Hamlin run that fake punt. Bet the farm that we lose again next season in the Divisional Round. It's McD's specialty, even against lesser teams. At least we won the Regular Season for the fourth season in a row. Regardless of what they do in the offseason, my enthusiasm that we'll do anything come playoff time is practically nil.