PBF81

Well summed up!

In 7 seasons they should have done something besides merely signing Diggs to begin with. Same for the OL and the (up until last year) hodgepodge way they've pieces our OL together. It's become an issue and it's their problem to solve. Let's see how they do. It's quite possible that it's the overall methodology that's the issue. Just sayin'.

Uhhh, scoring maybe. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ until they start determining game outcomes by yardage gained ... Samuel, Mr. 3-TDs/season over 7 seasons on average, on two different teams, isn't likely to turn into a scoring machine now. He may be a great addition, who knows now, but it's pretty likely he's not going to go from averaging a TD every 15 catches to a TD every 6. Call me nuts, but for a WR that's averaged just over 3 catches/game, on a team where no one even knows the right for for him, it seems unlikely that'll change significantly. He's not going to be averaging 8 catches/game either. Which begs the question, who's going to be doing the scoring on the receiving end. I suspect that Kincaid will pick up much of that slack.

No doubt. They're still going to price people out though. Many of the people commenting appear to simply be fed up with the overall situation and are already preempting it. They're not club level STHs. I haven't been a STH in years, and there's nothing like going to a live game, but when paying for live games means dropping money that could go towards other significant expenses or leisure options besides a few hours, that's when things change for me. Love the Bills, but it's not a religion and if my status as a fan becomes determined by how much money I drop to go see them, well, something's amiss. Other than for an occasional aftermarket ticket purchase for myself and whomever wants to go with me to a good game, I'm fine with watching on TV either at home or at a Bills Backers bar. I mean heck, for less than a hundred bucks I can eat and drink myself silly at a BB bar. IDK, seems as if it's all gotten out of hand the last decade or two. It's a business, but the cost for the live product has simply gotten to the point where I'd rather do other things with my money. And that's apart from the fact that I would never pay a PSL merely on principle regardless of the cost.

Speaking of stadium construction, I looked at the Bufnews piece and comments on the PSLs and they're taking a beating. The next month or two is going to be very interesting.

Well, OK, other than for Diggs, name the other WRs that we've had here that have played significantly better than they have elsewhere?

You missed the point entirely. It's about efficiency, not gross numbers. That should have been clear. Again, we'll see. I'm way past believing how players that our staff is familiar with, typically from Carolina, are all of a sudden after years of mediocrity, are going to shine here for some inexplicable rain. Same for Harty & Sherfield last year at this time. And Knox is a TE, and other than for his '21 season, he too has defined mediocrity, at best, on a good day, averaging 350 yards and 3 TDs per season otherwise in four other seasons.

So you're essentially arguing that a WR's ability to find the end zone is insignificant then. Well, OK. I suppose there's at least some reasonable debate in there. IMO it's relevant, particularly on a team like ours where receiving TD producers seem to be rare. Let's hope he has his best season ever.

Nah, I'll pass. Not much in the mood for an ad hominem exchange here. I've already explained some of the other stuff. Sorry that you think that the singular analysis is FUBAR. I don't think so. So we'll simply have to agree to disagree. Otherwise, I'll look Forward to Samuel's career season forthcoming.

So your argument is that Samuel is a clutch player though? Seems like another good but far from great and certainly not a game-changing signing. We'll see what he contributes.

There isn't a player on our roster, during McD's entire tenure, that even approaches Davis' ability to score TDs. The best we have is Diggs and he's averaged a TD every 12 catches. In the playoffs Davis walks away with it. It's not an end-all-to-be-all indicator, but none are. But swapping out an enigmatic WR that doesn't fill a need at Slot but also isn't truly a #1/#2 split type either should at least be a concern. We do this every season, everyone we sign is going to make some kind of difference or something. Samuel's best season ever, which was four seasons ago, had him log 851 yards and 3 TDs and 36 1st-Downs on 77 catches. Two of those three TDs were in losses and the other was in a shutout/blowout. That doesn't exactly scream out that he's a clutch player. It's always a flag too, two things actually, when people go back to a players' draft status after two contract terms (7 years) in the league; but moreover, anytime we grab someone from Carolina because one of our coaches or Beane "drafted him" or "is familiar with him." Last season Davis had 45 catches, 7 TDs, and 31 1st-Downs. That's nowhere near an even swap. Davis was far more efficient on a per-catch basis. As to our team generating a lot more passing TDs than average (assuming you mean passing TDs since we're talking WRs here), the Skins had 407 completions, 3,725 passing yards, and 24 passing TDs. We had 385 completions (22 fewer), 4,154 yards (429 more), and 29 passing TDs. (5 more, marginal) Davis was 25% of those 29 TDs too. Considering that Kincaid will probably pick up more of the slack, I'm not sure I see Samuel matching Davis' TD numbers when he hasn't put up more than 4 TDs in any of his last four seasons. We'll see.

If we can't at least win this miserable Division then it's time for some really major changes. We own Miami and the Jets and Pats, until further notice, both suck.

Samuel's a lot of hype here for a WR that's averaged fewer than 500 yards per season and an average of 3 TDs/season. He may have a drop or two fewer, but Davis averaged a TD for every 6 receptions. Samuel's averaged a TD for every 15 receptions. Drops, or lack thereof, don't win games. TDs/points do. That seems to be lost on many. Perhaps most concerning is that there's yet another Carolina connection. Have any of those worked our for us. This "familiarity" thing ... LOL

Miami's not a concern. No matter how good they are, we typically go 2-0 against them. The playoff game against Thompson was a little bit of a wake-up call, but otherwise no matter how good Miami is or isn't, we beat them. We're 11-1 after Allen's first start against them and our only loss was that ridiculous heat game a couple of seasons ago where we actually seriously outplayed Miami but lost 21-19 anyway. And the Wings are better in Buffalo than they are in France too.

Everyone's assuming that Milano will be 100% or close to it. It's concerning that he wasn't able to put any weight on his injured leg for two months. That's a long time for a reportedly simple break of his tibia. That's not normal.

I'll feel pretty good when we make the playoffs and beat something better than a wild-card team. Merely winning the division is old hat and a pretty low expectation with Allen at QB and in a relatively weak division at this point. Right now we're on pretty much exactly the same trajectory that the Chargers were on under Norv Turner with Rivers at QB. We have better talent than that.

To start, that has zero to do with the point. Otherwise I'm not sure that this is the place to discuss how corporate America is structured such that 95% (or so) of the corporations are owned by other corporations, all ultimately controlled via that network of corporate control, and ultimately controlled by a very few families in the world. It's a red-pill thing that most are clueless on.

There's a little more than a fine line there. To start, we're talking about billionaires, people that have all that they or their extended families could ever need in a lifetime. Let's not forget that while the negotiation process was going on, the Pegs bought a pricey yacht. That amidst cries from Kim that they had a lifestyle to maintain as somewhat of a slap in the face of many fans. Let's put that in a different yet not nearly as egregious context. Suppose a small business owner wanted a state/county $100k grant to expand their business and claimed that they needed the money for it because, as the Pegs stated, they didn't have it. Then while negotiating for that grant they went out and bought a brand new car claiming that they had a lifestyle to maintain? How would that look to the people from whom that grant was coming? All that while they bilked the state and county taxpayers for $850M more, many of which are not Even Bills fans. The NFL is evil greedy. The individual owners want more than what every business wants, they want the public, beyond game attendees, to pay for their business expenses.

I hear ya, but to be fair, there was a large degree of predictability re: Watkins despite few seeing it. MHJ is more in the Mike Evans mold but faster even. And again, to reiterate everyone's take, we have no reasonable chance.

I thought that if you give up your seats, the team retains the rights to the seats and can charge another PSL to new STHs, no?

Yes, any PSL is per seat. No doubt. I downloaded the survey just in case.

This was from their survey, which seems to be where your current seat is. Location: Lower level between 40- and 20-yard lines Coverage: None Heating: None Annual price per seat: $1,900 One-time PSL: $4,850

You do realize where you're posting, right? 🧐😁

Said the coach who's team started 3-0 with more hype than US elections, them went 1-8 to finish 4-8 and DFL in the PAC-12.

LOL Shades of supplementary school with you in this.