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I'm not deeply involved in this conversation, although I read up on it here, but from reading here and elsewhere like the BuffNews, Facebook, etc., it seems that the biggest issue among fans is that they want the pricing structure like a menu, to be able to see what they can afford and attempt to get the best seats for them that fit within that pricing structure, if at all. The "problem" appears to be that the team is only going to release a level or two at a time down the chart. The problem that this presents is that people seem to be afraid that they're going to get pressured into seats/STs that may not be what they'd have chosen had they known all the options. That's reasonable. It's one thing to only open up sales for certain sections. It's quite another to hide the pricing info from fans as they go through the process, and it's viewed as high-pressure sales, which of course it is. Who can or wants to pay for it has nothing to do with it, which will work itself out. It's going to be quite interesting to see how this all shakes out once the more reasonably priced tix & PSLs start going on sale. I could be entirely wrong, that's just my read for a large part of it.

This is why this place is FUBAR so often. Here's the exact string. You made the following comment, my/your/my/your/etc. responses are in order. This was your first/original comment to which I made my comment: My response (and correcting the spell-check for Diggs): Yours: Mine: My point with that last one was that the original conversation before you entered into it, was about playoff performances of players. IOW, the context was playoffs, and you put it in the context of Regular Season. To which I responded pointing out that the context was playoffs, and with the underlying well-known understanding that it's not our regular seasons that have been issue-laden, it's our playoffs, with the point otherwise being, and given your criticism of a rookie WR in his first NFL games, was that we should be so lucky to get a WR like Rice late in round 2. Your hounding me out-of-context is the most predictable thing here. Otherwise, if you want to talk about a WR, in this case Rice, in the playoffs, 26 catches for 262 Yards and a TD in four playoff games, as a rookie, is more than any rookie WR of ours, besides Davis, has put up in any four playoff games over the past three postseasons. It's more yards in the playoffs than any other WR we have on our roster has put up in postseason play as well. So when we draft a WR that does that as a rookie, shake me awake. So yeah, it'd be a great thing to land a WR late in round 2 that could do that, at least I think so. Apparently you disagree and think we're doing a better job of finding WRs at rookie pricing/contracts. So I suppose that we'll simply have to agree to disagree. I'm fine with that. Keep in mind that I'm making zero mention of his off-field issue here, merely his onfield performance. We're finished here. At least I am.

I'm a little confused at what your overall point is. I argued that we haven't lost a playoff game because of Allen. You then threw up what presumably were counterexamples, which I considered to be weak. This last statement of yours seems to be in agreement with the original point.

So that one thing makes Josh the reason as to why we haven't beaten anything but crap teams in the playoffs his fault then? Well, OK. I suppose if that's how you view it. Which game/play are we talking about by the way? I guess we'll have to move on to a QB that never misses a pass and one that runs with a little more pizazz than Allen.

That's fine, but that's an extremely weak answer to the fact that I posited and does not address it directly. It also fringes on the play-calling, aka coaching, even if only the offensive side, which some would argue stems from the top-down in terms of what you mentioned. And in arguing differently, at some point then it would be quite reasonable to begin asking whether our HC is in control of the entire team, or not, or merely the D and even then not in every key situation. Just sayin'.

Of course not. I'm curious how that impacts the comments that I made about his '21 season playoffs. Maybe instead of a comment like that, point out how much you'd like him to improve from posting two games with the following stat lines: 308 Passing Yards, 5 Passing TDs, 157.6 Rating, 6 Carries for 66 Rushing Yards 329 Passing Yards, 4 Passing TDs, 136.0 Rating, 11 Carries for 68 Rushing Yards In the other games, maybe point out where he failed while the rest of the team stepped up. Let's stay focused here instead of going off on tangents having little if anything to do with the original point. There's not a playoff game that we've played where anyone, national media, Bills fans, non-Bills fans, etc. can honestly say that we lost because of Allen with most much less all of the rest of the team having played a great game. Once again, that points to something beyond merely Allen as to why we do not advance.

Pssssst. We were talking playoffs. Pssssst. Once the postseason hits, the regular season counts for nothing. (You are entirely predictable)

And Mahomes had Hill & Kelce, arguably the two best at their positions then, and a vastly Superior OL. Name one playoff game where Josh threw an INT that was his fault that cost us the game?

As a rookie. It'd be nice if we'd draft a WR late in round 2 about where our 60th pick is this year, that would put up 577 yards and 4 TDs in the second half of his rookie year. At that rate he'll be as productive as Diggs has been for us.

Great point! And how much better can he be expected to play in the playoffs generally speaking than he did in the '21 season. He essentially played two perfect games. Unfortunately few of his teammates, definitely not enough of them, show up in the playoffs, particularly on the defensive side. Consider, if he played phenomenally, which he did, and led us to 36 points in regulation, them what does it say for a D that did the same on the other side in allowing the opponent to post one of its top-3 best games of the season in doing the same. It's likely be would have won one in '21, it was our own poor and idiotic decision making that undermined that. Sometimes you are unfairly credited with things that aren't your fault. People will draw the conclusions that fit their personal team narratives. Yet, there are reasons as to why we can't advance in the playoffs.

It really is. Miami's program isn't even a thing anymore. Kinda sad.

Wow, just took a look. Nice catch! Bama was like that for a bunch of years a while back too.

LMAO You nailed that!

Are you nuts, criticizing McD as if he has anything to do with it. You should know better by now. As to the statement is a ridiculous one. He says that as if it was a big mystery what playing a "soft zone" (or whatever) would allow Mahomes/Hill/Kelce do. Is his answer the same as to why they played 10+ yards of the LoS against Cincy in short-yardage situations too. Yeah, we played a two-man front and everyone else was in the end zone, he was able to run it in. No one was really to blame. Of course no one was to blame, we won't find out what really happened for years. All we know is that the guy at the top of the pyramid has nothing to do with it. LOL SMH

That's a pretty sweeping statement. What, total as backups, role-players, ST-ers, etc.?

That's dated two years ago. According to reports they're already well over that. The Survey is all we have to go on for now but if I recall correctly the lower PSLs were $900/$1,000. Mostly upper EZs and corners. Remember, the new stadium will be about the same height all the way around unlike the corner one. So when they say Upper EZs they mean same height as our current UDs. I also don't recall any of those having heat although some may have cover. Doesn't matter what you say, critics will disregard any context and argue based upon what they want your position to be. 🤔😁

This entire process is beyond fascinating. Curious to see how it all shakes out.

That's gotta be an actual game day pic.

The team could do it too. It's even more chump change to them.

I think you meant this for someone else. I never Said that Pegula would sell, to the contrary.

BTW, I can definitely see prices dropping to fill the stadium. I have difficulty envisioning it selling out as-is. I can also see Pegula's crocodile tears after Allen retires claiming that he's not making enough money here and then moving the team then.

Thanks! But to my point still, what would it cost for the team to put a can up over OBD with a regular feed. It's not as if it's a top-secret project, it's right out in public.

Well find out within the year. It's certainly an interesting process to observe.

Agree. And contrary to the dumb narrative that claims that they can't leave for 15/20 years, the cost for Pegula to move is $850M. Which fool(s) really think that's anywhere near enough to prevent a team from moving to where it's worth would double or ever triple with the move. Also, Allen strikes me as someone that's well rooted and wouldn't risk his health after several more years and would retire while he can still walk normally and play golf around the world every day. I don't see him wanting more and more money in exchange for his health. Given the way that they use him I don't see him playing much longer that his current contract. Then factor in his relationship with Steinfeld too.

In my world beating ONLY poor teams with backup, poor, or ancient QBs playing their last game ever, with half of one exception, isn't cause for greatness. Either way, find another coach that's heralded as being great that in his first 7 seasons never beat anything but wild-card teams in the playoffs. You can't. If Belichick has done that in his first seven seasons with a Brady he never would have seen an 8th season, if not sooner Your apples to oranges comp is childish.