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It was reported in one place that he was. The Carolina connection and now ridiculous dumpster diving there hasn't worked for us. And I'm all ears as to why Al Holcomb is the best candidate to backfill.

Right, and another Rivera Coaching Tree JAC from Carolina was the best choice in replacement. All Carolina products are. It could also be that McD's hand was forced.

No doubt, but not being content and knowing how to correct things are two entirely different things. There's absolutely nothing on record by him suggesting that he even has a clue how to correct things. I'm entirely open too a detailed explanation from him as to what to do, specifically. I have noticed that he's quit saying "Trust the Process." Beane didn't orchestrate "13 Seconds" or that defensive nonsense against Cinci. If McD's not on top of that in the playoffs as a head coach, then he shouldn't be head coach. Not to defend Beane though.

Exactly! With Allen "making the playoffs" should not only be a given, it's expected. Good coaching should get us further.

And yet, the taxpaying non-fans and fans pay for the business expenses of the team owner. Funny how none of that will come back to the people that paid for it. Not to open an old debate, ... Just sayin'. For whatever the price more, Pegula could do whatever he wanted. He had enough to throw around for a yacht that cost nearly $100M plus annual operating costs, but what, couldn't have put that money towards his own business expense? Asking for a friend. LOL It is what it all is, but the one thing missing from this entire shebang is very significant investment by the owner of the business whose business expense it is. As you said, the team will triple in value over so many decades, and he (or whomever the owner is at that time, Jessica?) will realize that profit, while those that paid for it won't realize any financial ROI whatsoever. If Pegula had wanted characteristics that are not there, he easily could have asked for and paid for them himself in what we understand is already the biggest publicly funded pro sports stadium in history.

Thanks. Yeah, I was being facetious.

Was the injury to his fingers or hands. Must be why they keep bringing the Carolina coaching staff over. After all, they've all done such a marvelous job defensively in Carolina in recent years. The Ron Rivera coaching tree. These guys see all the rotten fruit decaying at the bottom of it and decide that's the tree for them.

We'll, LOL, OK. Maybe it should've been McD's decision. Then going for Al Holcomb, again, from Carolina, and their marvelous defense under him. LOL It's becoming clear that McD's DCs are little more than a face.

How do you know? That's what they said, doesn't mean it's on the level. And I see that we've gone back to that championship Carolina coaching tree for his replacement. LOL SMH

Honestly, I'd take my chances come playoffs.

Then they should say that.

Almost? 😂 It's a horrible look. If his contract is up, McD should say it. If he's been fired, drop a pair and announce it. This mimics his onfield coaching and pressers.

My original point was that Knox was not an impact player, we're not going to lose games because he's not on the field. Not so with Allen, Diggs, Dawkins, or now Milano as our only starting caliber LB. Manther seemed to think that was funny and inaccurate, which is fine. Perhaps the team would fall apart offensively if Knox weren't on the field. I guess any possibility exists. I'm simply not seeing it nor are most people. No argument with your statements there, that wasn't my original point. Manther seems to think that fewer than 30 ypg and a sporadic TD is something worthy of note. As to Knox, again, I tend to agree with you above here. Having said that, he's been here for 4 seasons now and if there's one word that accurately describes his play, it's gotta be inconsistent. He'll post a big game once ('22) or twice ('21) a season, but then falls back into the ranks of mediocrity. I believe that he could contribute much more as well, ... if he were used properly. I also believe that Singletary could be a 1,200 Yard 8 TD RB, ... if he were used properly. I also believe that Allen could be a much better pocket passer in addition to his legendary skillset otherwise, ... if he had a better OL and better offensive play calling. But now we're talking about coaching and management/drafting. We've now had 6 years of "The Process," and the reason why players like Knox aren't doing what you (and I) claim he could be doing, is precisely because of that ill-defined "[The] Process." So, here we are, discussing something that we have absolutely no control over. LOL

He also didn't even average 30 ypg in four of those games. Did you look at the other 11 regular season games? He couldn't even average 30 ypg, and he didn't even post one TD every five games. He only posted one game of more than 41 yards & a TD all season. His overall performance among starting TEs was very average. He's far from being Kelce. You seem to think that's funny although not sure why. He's hardly the type of player that you lose and your team collapses.

I don't see a lot of levels overhanging too many seats to keep heated either in those renderings. Completely agree with you on the experience of Bills Mafia as we know it being gone. You can tell just by looking at how manicured the lots are. Not sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. I haven't been to nearly as many recent games as you and others, but there were a lot of drunks, mostly if not all young (under 30-ish), that didn't do the experience any favors, both in and outside the stadium. I'm not sure that there are the number of families in WNY that will drop that kind of scratch though. Based on what someone else said, your statement about businesses, thinking national businesses, may be more accurate. At some point though, what's the point of having a team if locals are priced out in favor of national businesses and resale agencies and have to watch from home anyway. That entire scenario seems kind of weird.

Yeah, I've read that about Tottenham. I'm only seeing a few similarities however. And why aren't they releasing more renderings. If they're getting close to ground-breaking then the archtectural renderings are already long done. I don't understand why they won't put more out, particularly of the concourses etc. I'm less into those modern impressions than most are, someone mentioned Lucas Oil Stadium, which IMO as I mentioned would look a lot better in Orchard Park than this thing. That brick facade just seems to fit the region better. I guess to me, being the Finger Lakes region and all, more or less over there, something more traditional would fit in better. The existing pics look as if they'd fit better downtown. I forgot about one thing that you implied, I keep forgetting that Rich is primarily underground but that the new one will be entirely above ground. That alone will make a huge impression that people should be able to see from notably farther away even with the lightly rolling terrain. Pegula needs to sign the lease extension too.

If everyone's standing the whole time it won't matter re: the seats. Seems as if the entire lower bowl never sits down anymore. I'd prefer the standing room areas which presumably would be at the club level, and less expensive, if everyone's going to stand anyway. At least you can shift around up there. Agreed. IDK tho, maybe it's me, but the style of the stadium seems a little out of place out in the suburbs like that. I wonder how long it's gonna take them to fill in the hole where the current stadium is and turn it into parking. That's a whole lotta parking that they're gonna need. It looks like the new parking around the stadium, while it looks nice, holds about half the cars of the existing lots.

The parking looks inadequate.

Thanks! I didn't know that about the agencies, doesn't seem right. Is there that kind of demand for tickets in Buffalo for so many people to come from out-of-town that aren't typical fans though? I'm also thinking maybe with Allen here, but once he's gone, whenever that ends up being, not so much. IDK, seems like the whole modern pro sports experience isn't what it used to be. I think I'm one of the "odd men out" these days. I was at all of the home playoff games except for the Comeback game, we drove by but decided to watch it locally instead. But back then the tailgating was the thing, after that all I needed was a seat. It's nice to have clean accessible restrooms without sewage water all over the floor, but otherwise, IDK, I don't care as much about stadium amenities as most people. I'm only willing to pay so much for that though. The prices, aftermarket, are approaching what I'd pay for a nice long-weekend entire vacation or perhaps even a week at the beach during mid-season. I don't have seasons because I don't live in the region anymore, but once those PSLs hit combined with double the prices, it'll be out of my price range and out of what I'm willing to pay on principle otherwise. Going to games is becoming like family vacations. LOL I've gotta admit too, that there's something about making your own wings at home and watching on TV.

Great post! Agreed I see him walking and playing much better in a traditional 4-3. Who knows, but if you ask me, the reason why we only use 2 LBs is because we only have two that are worth a siht. It's a strain on those two as well, not a welcome one I would imagine. That's gotta be weighing into Edmunds' decision.

If it is, then it's only because we have absolutely no one to backfill, even potentially. That's a problem of his own making. One starting LB drafted in five drafts.

I don't think that going from 70k to 60k is really going to make that difference tho. You don't think they're going to have any difficulty then selling tix at over twice the current face value, while charging PSL fees? I'd love to see that but I'm also not so sure. But my point was that maybe they don't even care all that much of we only sell say 40k of the 60. Time will tell, but when the topic comes up, it seems like there are a lot of STHs here that day they're not going to pay that much and will watch at home instead.

Interesting comment. I've only been to a couple of games in recent years, so I'm hardly the one to know, but what I do know is that when I've gone, instead of enjoying the game, many people are filming or taking selfies and other pics, a lot, not just once or twice throughout the game. In fact, last game I was at, my daughter was too busy video recording a huge play that she missed watching it live and it was right in front of us. She was upset about it, but I told her, stop recording and watch the game. I had to say that a bunch of times tho. I've noticed that at concerts as well. I guess I don't understand it, because as you say, the stadium experience is what it's all about for me. I can't experience it if I'm recording.

It doesn't seem as if a lot of people noticed, but when the team put out their "survey" with the likely new prices, I couldn't help but notice that the regular face value price was now going to be more than what aftermarket prices are. I followed aftermarket prices much of the season and noticed that generally speaking they weren't twice face value, until some of the more expensive tickets in the playoffs. But the survey prices were over twice current face value, plus PSLs. We can talk about Indy, Chicago, Minnesota all we want, Cincinnati even, but all of those locals have a notably bigger corporate base. What's interesting is what a small percentage, relatively speaking, ticket sales are as a percentage of revenues. I'm wondering if the team doesn't care if it sells out the seats. I'm not sure what the individual ticket sale policy would be. If I were on the business end of this on the team side, I'd be wondering how many tickets at over twice the existing prices, plus PSLs, I could sell, with that being compounded once Allen's no longer here. Since presumably they're going forward with this, it only makes me wonder if they don't care about a full boat. Pegula only cares about the PSLs since that's funding "his" share of this. Even a lot of people here with seasons are complaining about those prices and saying that they're not going to pay them. Some already talking about bailing on the current 12% hike for next year. It leads me to conclude that they don't care and that it probably doesn't matter. As to the stadium tho, I think that a design like Lucas Oil Stadium would fit Orchard Park much better than a mirrored design that looks like it belongs in some schnitzy metro area or Sydney Australia or something. So fans leave their kids in a play area and go watch the game?

Chicago already released a bunch of renderings I thought. I could be wrong. I just looked, Lucas Oil Stadium looks great. I'd take that in a heartbeat. Has a little bit of a steampunk look to it. Very unique.