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Then you need to look at what I'm responding to before responding to me. You've typically responded to my responses to others, when my responses were in that context. It's easy to "overlap" here, I fully understand.

Hint: Compare the postseason games of those teams on the seasons that they finished 13-3 or better. It'll come to you. Definitely tough to stomach.

Au contraire, absolutely no one would be complaining of we won the Super Bowl after finishing 9-8. If we went 9-8 however, and we're ousted in the WC or D round of the playoffs, or missed the playoffs altogether, don't you think that with this roster and Allen at to he helm we'd have to consider that gross underachievement and point to coaching? You're all over the map in terms of the argument. Make an argument and stick with it man. So going off on tangential arguments and points.

Well, OK, and some people consider themselves to be the center of the universe while others consider that there are many others that don't think that way. Good for you that your primary goal in life is money/wealth, and to merely see the team do well in the regular season. If it's all the same and if you don't mind, I'll keep the option open that not everyone thinks like that, on either count. I thought that we were talking about expectations and goals? Even so, a salesman with a superior product that underachieves his competitors who have lesser products, at some point one must look at why shares lag, no?

Assuming that everyone's goal in life is to be a millionaire, I suppose that would be a valid argument. Unfortunately that's far from the case. Every team's goal at the beginning of the season IS to win a championship.

It was a helluva Regular season. The postseason was the antithesis of the regular season however. Barely beating a Wild Card team at home in huge energy prior to getting smoked by the Bengals behind a scrub OL is low end. Just as going 13-3 or 9-8 and getting smoked in the playoffs is the same ultimate result, ... If we're going to apply the same standard there. Just sayin'

I'll write happily accept going 9-8, squeaking into the playoffs as the 7th seed, them tearing it up to win a championship. Obviously the point of the regular season is to make the playoffs, and once in the playoffs, to advance therein. For anyone talking as if simply posting a good season is fine, I'd absolutely love to hear them go tell the players that in a "motivational" speech before the season opener.

OK, I'll acquiesce, apparently no more than Taylor, Fitzpatrick, or Edwards did. As you were.

When you have a Josh Allen then the expectations are a championship. We don't make it out and say OK, we'll "expect a championship" in 2025, 2028, and 2030, but no other years. That's how you make it sound. You expect it every year and if not achieved ask why not and figure out how to correct what's wrong. Again, there are two sets of fans, some that are happy with entertaining play all season regardless of the results, and the others, including those of us that went through the SB years, that will only be satisfied with a championship. For those simply happy with doing shots from a bowling ball and jumping onto tables and tailgating while being pleased with a winning season and little else, good for them, I envy them. But for them to impose that standard upon the rest of us, well that's just wrong. I think that almost all fans agree that if we don't win one with Allen it'll be tragic and ridiculous. What else did you notice about those the teams that is not common with us?

Correction, we blew out the Rams and then the Titans, both teams having been absurdly overrated and among the worst on our schedule. After that we went on vacation as if beating them was a singular formality to going 17-0 and sliding into a Championship per the preseason pub. After that we lost to Miami, barely beat Baltimore going 4-3 in our next 7. The only two teams that we blew out were Pittsburgh in week 5 and then the Bears on Christmas Eve. We got blown out by Cinci. We only beat three playoff teams during the regular season, two of which were WC teams. We beat those teams by 3 points twice and by 4 points once. We also lost to Miami once. We had a relatively soft schedule in hindsight. It's quite possible were overrated ourselves after the first two games against teams that were supposed to be in contention but which finished a combined 12-22 and both of which finishing near last in offense. Just sayin'. I know that I did.

Well hey, at least we've advanced beyond winning the offseason.

Thanks for the Intel. Discouraging though. If it plays out that way, I would imagine that our fans are going to have a different opinion of the situation once that reality kicks in.

That's a great question. I wonder what the answer is. I hate the whole PSL thing on concept, nothing but a money grab by people with money. On principle, I don't care what it is, but I would never pay for a PSL. I'm curious how the ticket sale process is going to go. PSLs, about twice the current ticket prices on top of that, all being done by an out-of-town corporation. I've done aftermarkets, but if it's going to be near $1,000 for me and one of my family to go see a game, I'll find something else to do with that money, on principle if nothing else. I could watch the game from home and hire someone to wait on me hand and foot for that kind of money, with plenty leftover. I'm also not sitting in the upper deck corners. But apparently there's plenty of interest although I'm not sure that most fans realize what the new costs of attending a game are going to be. Many were balking at a 12% hike, well this is going to be a whole lot more than 12%, closer to 100%.

It could also very well be that Brown was a man amongst boys in the Missouri Valley conference, and that it simply hasn't translated to the NFL against competition that he simply never faced. I mean how many DEs did he play on the opponents that they played that made it to the NFL. I can't imagine many of any. I guess we'll find out.

What's Beane supposed too say, most of my picks haven't worked out, this job is difficult, I'm doing my best, be patient, ... trust the process. Let's face it, his Drafts have been questionable at best, his draft strategies equally so. The results have been lackluster. He's got 6 picks this season, one late on each of the first 6 rounds, but he's got numerous holes to fill and positions to upgrade. He's created that issue, no one else. He's drafted the same positions in several spots for several years without any becoming better than average. He's not in a position to trade up, unless he wants to mortgage future Drafts. For his sake he'd better hope that several of his former picks "take the next step," and frankly, he'd better also hope that this year's crop of rookies produces an early ringer or two also, otherwise we're going to be having an entirely different conversation following the season.

Probably drafting one in the late 6th Round. LOL Luck seems to be Belichicks formula for winning. And why not, Belichick's 17th average ranking in Points Scored, and 19th average ranking in Yardage Offense, which includes a season with Cassel at QB and Welker and Moss as WRs, Watson at TE, and two fantastic receiving RBs, aka rankings which are incredibly average if not mediocre, without Brady as his QB reveals what a great offensive mind he has. I absolutely love watching Belichick flounder! I hope he coaches 10 more years and never advances to the playoffs again. The longer it goes the more that that narcissistic self-righteous egomaniac is going to try prove that he really is something without a QB that's in the running for the GOAT. It's a tale of two coaches, one with Brady, excellent, and one without Brady, absolutely horrible; 10 seasons and 2 games, only two playoff appearances, both times as a wild-card, going 1-2 and only winning in the wild-card round, while getting outscored on 30-14 average. Otherwise, a 77-87 record otherwise. But I'm sure, Brady and Belichick contributed equally. LOL He's finished. Every season that he continues to coach adds to the mainstream narrative that he was only good because of Brady. I actually don't look forward to Kraft's firing of Belichick, which I'm sure won't be a "firing" on paper, presumably at least. Maybe Belichick's ego is just that big, that he'll force Kraft to fire him. Should be interesting to be sure. Honestly, it's difficult to say since Belichick sucks on offense and the people he hires are no better, at least not recently. It's not really fair to any QB, Jones or not.

True, but no way free-agency carries him to those goals. He (they) have an uphill battle. I mean McD's coaching shortcomings have little to do with available talent.

I'm guessing because on paper otherwise they don't look so hot. At the end of the day Beane's gonna get judged ultimately on this upcoming Draft, not free-agency. If it's like his others he simply cannot expect to stick around. How long can a GM live on a single pick made five years earlier while the rest of them prevent the team from moving forward. It'll be pretty simple, if he knocks it out of the park he'll have a majority of fan support, but if not he simply cannot expect to have that support, nor would he deserve it. He desperately needs an A+ Draft. McD's performance, apart from his glaring postseason poor performance, is going to reflect what Beane does. IMO three things need to happen this coming season in order for both of them to continue to have a majority of both fan and media support. First, McD needs to win the division. Second, be needs to at least take this team to the AFC CG. Third, he can't lose embarrassingly to any team in that game as he has. A loss would be acceptable, but only if the other team is better and we play our best with no coaching negligence as he's committed.

It's definitely going to be interesting to see how that plays out. To state the obvious, this ain't NYC. People are complaining about a 12% hike in ticket prices, what will they say when they on or about double, if not more for the best seats, plus PSLs. I only do secondaries now, it was too much of a hassle trying to sell the games I didn't go to. I'm sure it's better now with Ticketmaster doing the heavy lifting, but still. As well, that way I can keep an eye on the weather and if it's going to be crap then I'll pick another game later in the season and watch that one from the comfort of home or a Bills bar somewhere.

Wow, that's interesting. How did you find that out?

Why, so Allen could carry his water here like Brady did in N.E.? He'd want to run our drafts too. LOL Florio's bored.

Cocaine. He's a lawyer.

This then raises other unpopular issues. Their GM has been there the same amount of time as Beane. Just sayin'.

Would have made a whole lot more sense than Von Miller a year later. Poor planning.

It's part of "The Process".