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AJ Klein Expected to Sign with Bills Phew! Our LB issues are solved.

The ladies noticed. Presumably anyway. 😁

I've watched Marino's video and he did not show any video at all. I have a difficult time with just talk not accompanied by video. It' one thing to say something, it's another to back it up with evidence. I also watched this one; Gabe Davis' Top Plays Of The 2022 NFL Season | Buffalo Bills It won't link here for some reason. I saw at least five routes the he ran, and that video was over half of his catches. I saw some very clutch nigh uncatchable passes in there as well that he caught. I also watched his highlights of the Miami playoff game, 3 of his 6 catches were anything but "right to him." Great catches. I then compared that to Allen's passes to Diggs in the same playoff game, whereas both posted about the same stats, and all but one pass to Diggs was on the money, and the one that wasn't also wasn't far off at all, in fact it may have deliberately been thrown slightly under to avoid the defender. I also noticed that not one of Diggs' passes was on a broken play whereas about half of Davis' seem to be. That's relevant as well. IMO fans are being too hasty re: Davis. That's completely irrelevant to the conversation he and I were having. There's no reason to go down that tangent. I will say however that Harris I don't expect much from. He seems like Antowain Smith lite. His best games were against us and I'm guessing that's why Beane liked him. He's a JAG rusher. But to your point, if Cook was going to be the main ball carrier, then why all the talk of needing a RB, and secondly, why sign Harris.

We'll see. I'll bet you a beer. LOL I don't see Cook doing anything more than Singletary ever has, particularly with Damien Harris there. If the team really believed that he was a 3-down RB they wouldn't have traded for Harris.

What were the nuts-n-bolts of the Davis analysis, do you remember? Sounds interesting. I think I found it on youtube, I'll listen as well. I'm generally in agreement with you on not consuming even more of our resources on D in rounds 1 & 2, just saying that if we do go D it should be a LB simply because we don't have any after Milano. Doing more with less is one thing, but trying to do something with next-to-nothing is a whole other thing. What I will staunchly say is that if Beane doesn't get some impact play from at least one or two of his draft picks this season, IMO it's the beginning of the end of him in Buffalo. May take a couple seasons, but how long can someone live off of the reputation of a single draft pick a half-decade prior or longer.

Well, we'll see. I don't think that Davis could have had a worse year. IMO he's over 1,000 this year. We'll see. But you're suggesting that he's topped out I don't see that at all. In fact, his third season numbers are about what Diggs' third season numbers were. He's also young. I share your focus on the O, but given that I think differently of Davis than you do we'll differ there. Agree on RT, if not even a C/OG. Morse isn't long for the team, he's old for a C, and he's only got this and next season left. Also agree on the Allen/Rodgers comp. I will say that re: LB though that we have no starting caliber LBs besides Milano. What if he goes down, honestly, our D will be tinkering with being last. Even if not, one LB can't hold the fort down there. I'm not as confident in the vet 1/2 year signees as you are. That's what Klein was essentially or Matakevich, we were told the same thing by Beane & Co. As I see it, our primary needs are OL (generally), LB (both middle/inside as well as OLB), and RB now without Singletary. IMO we're in no position to trade up, only down, and even at the other positions we can use upgrades. I mean we still have no bona fide pass rusher on the outside. Rousseau faded as the season wore on, not a good sign there. If White's play doesn't improve we're light there too unless Elam's play makes huge strides. TE, meh, we could use an upgrade, but can't afford to use a day 1 or 2 pick there with our dearth at LB and perpetual needs along the OL. I'm liking this Campbell guy, I wouldn't be upset if we grabbed him with our 27th. Either that or OT there. A trade down for a couple of 2nds or a 2nd and high 3rd might be good too. Who knows, we'll see, none of us has any control over any of it. I will say that IMO Beane needs to hit this one out of the park or else. That's something he hasn't come close to doing, so it'll be interesting for sure. But we need impact starting players regardless of where we get them from.

Did you look to see who was ahead of Dean on the depth chart, but isn't anymore? At least be fair in your analysis. Let's revisit at season's end, shall we. And frankly, Cook didn't exactly have Derrick Henry in front of him. At the end of the day Cook did absolutely nothing to signal that he was even remotely capable of being a 3-down RB. The difference between Dean and what we have now is pronounced. Meanwhile, the team is reportedly considering drafting a RB and there's no shortage of fan support for that. I don't hear a barrage of people claiming that "we're all set with Cook." I'll bookmark this discussion, let's see how the season progresses for both.

Well, barely 500 yards total rushing, a mere 2 rushing TDs, one against the worst rushing defense in the entire league, the other being a gravy TD as the last score in a 38-3 rout, no 100-yard games, only one game with more than 11 carries, ... Otherwise, why all the talk about drafting Robinson, trading for Barkley, etc. Why the team statements? Why didn't Cook supplant Singletary during the season if he's that good, because here Singletary was patently below-average. It's also not as if he picked up steam as the season went along, he averaged 7 carries for 42 yards and that mere pathetic rushing TD vs. Chicago, the league's worst rushing D, over the last 6 games of the season. In the playoffs he had a whopping 17 carries for 52 yards and a 3 ypc avg. Against Cinci he may as well have stayed home. I mean if that's a full-time ball carrier to you then god bless ya! We'll see, but IMO there's not a person out there that knows this team's needs that wouldn't trade Dean for Cook right now.

Well, OK, that's valid to an extent, but to date Cook has not even approached proving that he's anything but a role playing RB, either in his four years at Georgia nor in his rookie season. He wasn't even the primary ball carrier in his Senior season. So we'll see, at best there. And many of us don't have the confidence that Dorsey will use him "correctly" however that might be. Let's keep in mind that the team has made comments/implications about needing a RB as well. Why, if Cook is that RB. Knox is a better TE than his numbers. But so is Davis. So was Edmunds which we'll see this season. So was Singletary whom IMO we'll also see post top-10 numbers IMO, even at Houston assuming that he gets the opportunity to earn the starting role over Pierce. IMO most of the team is underachieving under this staff. It's an impossible argument to suggest that they haven't been in the playoffs where our play flips our offensive and defensive rankings on their heads.

Sorry, I meant over Cook, who's clearly a role-player.

I still can't believe that we took him over Dean. We'd be a much better team now has we taken Dean.

OK. I'm pretty much finished discussing anything with you. All you do is argue seemingly because you enjoy it or because yours is the only relevant opinion with no room for anyone else's. So sure, whatever you say.

Again, to me it depends upon the circumstances. If we have the easiest schedule in the league and dust most teams, hit the playoffs and get dusted, then I don't derive as much enjoyment from it. I've always been the type to claim that I prefer doing well and winning the division in a tough division, not like the Pats did it for 20 years putting a proverbial asterisk next to their overall record. I like good, effective, and competent play. If that means a loss to a playoff team, I'm good with that. To me, if you can't win your division if it's tough, then you don't deserve to. If you can't make the playoffs except by beating a soft schedule, similar to what we had last year, or even going 13-3 largely against non-playoff competition, but then stink the joint up in the playoffs, like we did barely beating Skylar Thompson and then losing to the Chiefs, then it doesn't do much for me. I'll put it another way, if someone "had a crystal ball" and told me ahead of time that we would go 14-3 on the merits of a soft schedule, win the division against three non-playoff (or simply eke-in wild-card teams), then lose in the D-round or even WC round, then yes, it would dampen my enjoyment of the season and I would as eagerly see to it to watch all the games. If I had something better to do on Sundays I'd do that when it was convenient. But if some with the same crystal ball told me that the season would be a struggle, that we'd have a relatively or even one of the toughest schedules, go 10-7 or 9-8, get a Wild Card, then win four playoff games and win the championship, you can bet that I'd catch every game that I could and would even try to get to one or two games, home or away. I'd be far more jacked under that scenario. Make sense? And BTW, you cannot possibly convince me that most people aren't numbed from how the season finished and that it hasn't dampened their expectations and hopes for this year. I think feeds into this discussion as well.

You're overstepping my entire point.

They're going to have to, a lot of fans, if they even opt for the approximate doubling of ticket prices as is, can't afford to pay for 2+ PSLs all at once.

So you'd rather go 13-3, scrape by a wild-card team, and lose embarrassingly to a sound playoff caliber team, but "being a coin toss away" otherwise, than to ... go 9-8, secure a Wild Card, then win four straight to win a championship. Well, OK, as I see it there's distinct difference there, but as I keep saying, everyone has different standards for what their expectations as fans are. I'd take the championship hands down every time, even if it meant getting the 7th seed year after year barely eking out over .500 while continuing to win championships, or as stated above, even just one. GO BILLS!!! I'm hoping for a Super Bowl win & championship this season just as I was last season and will every season. Once in the playoffs, the regular season record doesn't matter a hill of beans or a cup of ranch dressing otherwise.

Then you need to look at what I'm responding to before responding to me. You've typically responded to my responses to others, when my responses were in that context. It's easy to "overlap" here, I fully understand.

Hint: Compare the postseason games of those teams on the seasons that they finished 13-3 or better. It'll come to you. Definitely tough to stomach.

Au contraire, absolutely no one would be complaining of we won the Super Bowl after finishing 9-8. If we went 9-8 however, and we're ousted in the WC or D round of the playoffs, or missed the playoffs altogether, don't you think that with this roster and Allen at to he helm we'd have to consider that gross underachievement and point to coaching? You're all over the map in terms of the argument. Make an argument and stick with it man. So going off on tangential arguments and points.

Well, OK, and some people consider themselves to be the center of the universe while others consider that there are many others that don't think that way. Good for you that your primary goal in life is money/wealth, and to merely see the team do well in the regular season. If it's all the same and if you don't mind, I'll keep the option open that not everyone thinks like that, on either count. I thought that we were talking about expectations and goals? Even so, a salesman with a superior product that underachieves his competitors who have lesser products, at some point one must look at why shares lag, no?

Assuming that everyone's goal in life is to be a millionaire, I suppose that would be a valid argument. Unfortunately that's far from the case. Every team's goal at the beginning of the season IS to win a championship.

It was a helluva Regular season. The postseason was the antithesis of the regular season however. Barely beating a Wild Card team at home in huge energy prior to getting smoked by the Bengals behind a scrub OL is low end. Just as going 13-3 or 9-8 and getting smoked in the playoffs is the same ultimate result, ... If we're going to apply the same standard there. Just sayin'

I'll write happily accept going 9-8, squeaking into the playoffs as the 7th seed, them tearing it up to win a championship. Obviously the point of the regular season is to make the playoffs, and once in the playoffs, to advance therein. For anyone talking as if simply posting a good season is fine, I'd absolutely love to hear them go tell the players that in a "motivational" speech before the season opener.

OK, I'll acquiesce, apparently no more than Taylor, Fitzpatrick, or Edwards did. As you were.

When you have a Josh Allen then the expectations are a championship. We don't make it out and say OK, we'll "expect a championship" in 2025, 2028, and 2030, but no other years. That's how you make it sound. You expect it every year and if not achieved ask why not and figure out how to correct what's wrong. Again, there are two sets of fans, some that are happy with entertaining play all season regardless of the results, and the others, including those of us that went through the SB years, that will only be satisfied with a championship. For those simply happy with doing shots from a bowling ball and jumping onto tables and tailgating while being pleased with a winning season and little else, good for them, I envy them. But for them to impose that standard upon the rest of us, well that's just wrong. I think that almost all fans agree that if we don't win one with Allen it'll be tragic and ridiculous. What else did you notice about those the teams that is not common with us?