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They're really talking Shorter up too. Shakir I think will be a solid mid-tier WR. We'll see.

If Sherfield makes the team, just think about what that meant for all of the other prospects after Harty and Shorter, many of whom people here are talking about what great pick-ups they were, even if only as 5th/6th WRs. This time of year people seem to assume that the final roster is for 65. Three teams in five seasons, below-average statistical performance, his third one-year stint in a row, ... LOL ... He's averaged 10.8 YPG in his five seasons with a best of 24.5 last season, absolutely horrific performance in the 3rd and 4th Qs last season, and only one decent (4/63/1) game against any passing D ranked higher than 16th. (Cleveland) BTW, the closest WR behind him at Miami had only 12 catches, Cedric Wilson, and without looking no one in our forum can name another WR on Miami last season. IOW, he likely got what he got because there was no competition for him as a 3/4 WR. I have no idea why anyone would argue even slightly in favor of Sherfield. Even if he makes the team I'd be stunned if he has even 10 catches.

I know you didn't, don't get spun up, but you did make that comment comparing him to Kumerow, which yeah, is about right, LOL. But when he signed most people here were much bigger on him than I'm reading in this thread. It's interesting how the subsequent drafting of Kincaid has lowered the rhetoric on Sherfield. Kumerow's nothing either, he won't be around come fall, he was another nothing signing just like Sherfield. Is he even still on the roster? I've never touted him, only others here did last and when we signed him. Not sure why the comparison there. As to Kumerow, I have no idea how one even compares a WR that has 7 catches in three seasons. I also contrasted Sherfield to McKenzie whom no one here thinks is good, and he still falls short of McKenzie as pointed out. Why not compare him to McK then? As to the math, it's easy to calculate, 5th grade math,you can't be serious about that. That's exactly where I got the data, it's my go-to data site although there are others also depending upon categories, some do it better than others. For raw data nothing beats pfr. What, you can only evaluate what's spoon-fed you? You can't possibly be serious there. But since you mention 3rd-down-conversion rate, let's talk about that, and a few others. pfr provides all the data needed for anyone to calculate pretty much anything, but we can use straight splits there and simple math (division of two simple numbers) to draw our comps. To start, and go look for yourself, but did you notice Sherfield's 2nd-H numbers last season? ... contrasted with is 1st-Half numbers that is? If you had, you should have noticed that his 3rd & 4th Q stats plummet into next to worthlessness. In short, he sucks in the 2nd halves of games. Why, do you think, that may be? On 3rd-downs last season all 13 of McKenzie's catches went for 1st-Downs, and 13 of 19 targets, with a 68.4% catch%. In contrast, Sherfield had the same 19 targets, only 9 receptions, and 7 went for 1st-Downs, with a 47.4% catch%. McKenzie was a subpar WR and wasn't good enough for us. I fail to see how Sherfield is any better than a WR we just cast off when his performance(s) don't even match McK's. You can be right, I really don't care, but I simply fail to see how Sherfield makes the team at this point, his contract is nowhere near suggestive that he's beyond getting cut, and since Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Harty, and now Shorter and a few others, not to mention Kincaid whom most seem to believe that he'll more fill a Slot-WR role than that of TE, and Sherfield's fighting with all the others to make it as a 6th WR and/or STs player. I mean honestly, if someone can't beat out Sherfield ... Sure, great story, but until we sign players to do Traveler's MOTY documentaries, ... I'm not quite sure what there is to argue about there, which is essentially all I said earlier. That's all.

Here's the thing, if Sherfield is all that, then how come he's averaged barely over 10 yards-per-game? Kumerow's not much either, but his TD and 1D conversion rates are better than Shefield's. See my post above. Well, if you read those pieces on Sherfield, it's pretty obvious to me why we signed him, and it has less to do with his on-field performance and lot more to do with his life philosophy in relation to McD. This is a business, and McD's preferences for character with a religious touch is fine as a tiebreaker, but it shouldn't factor in otherwise, but it does. We're not a church team.

IMO he's a perfect player to be cut prior to the season. 1-year contract with almost no dead cap if he gets cut. He's already a journeyman five years into the league. I see no difference between him and a bunch of other WRs we've had in/out of here quickly over the past six years. I don't understand even the remotest optimism on this guy. The article that prompted this thread talked about his great hands, but his catch% was not significantly better than Davis' and everyone wants Davis out of here. Davis at least makes big plays, not Sherfield. Davis has 1 TD for every 11 targets and every 6 catches. Also, 42% of Davis' targets result in a 1st-Down, 77% of his catches result in 1st-Downs. He's averaged 9.1 yards-per-target. Sherfield finished 161st in Catch% last season, which is bad. Davis was only marginally worse. Sherfield has 1 TD for every 30 targets and every 17 receptions. That's a third of Davis' rate and everyone hates Davis and wants him gone. We need to at least apply the same logic and reasoning to both players. Only 35% of his targets resulted in 1st-Downs and only 62% of his catches resulted in 1st-Downs. McKenzie's numbers are significantly better. Also, Sherfield's only two TDs last season were against the Browns in a blowout Miami win in their second biggest offensive performance, and the other was this play vs. San Fran, a play which essentially is his career. LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uit0_3xTpmw Not trying to poo-poo the guy, but nothing about his signing suggests that it's a good wager to put money on the fact that he won't get cut. Not saying he will, but IMO he's definitely a bubble-guy in that way. I don't see a single role that he fills better than any other player on the team. Either way, same as the day he was signed, this is a nothing signing. If he makes the team it'll probably be because of his special teams play only, but we're not hurting for STs.

Excellent example, but in his case I would say that it more Brady than BB. I give Reid more credit than I give BB.

Roger! I think that we can agree that Reid's offensive play-calling was only good once he had top-tier talent however. ??

Bayern Munchen!

Well, they did have Charles and Maclin, who overlapped somewhat, as well as Hill in '16 and '17.

True, although Kelce was there throughout Smith/Reid's combined tenure there.

I'm wondering whether the London game opponent will be the Cowboys as the "road team," in a symbolic transition from the old "America's Team," to the new "America's Team."

I hope he becomes as commercialized as Brady & Mahomes are.

... in a pair of Zubaz while lugging around a white folding table, just-in-case. This place is absolutely hilarious at times.

Yes, in Smith's best year in a 14-year career. He finished 8th in passing yards, 9th in passing TDs, and 1st in past rating that season. Great year for him.

Indeed. 🤔🧐 LOL His offense did average 20th though until Mahomes showed up.

Indeed, but when you say "produce," I'm hesitant to ask any more questions.

Given that the average ranking of his defense over the past 7 seasons is a perfect 22nd, one could argue that.

Your pic embodies so much of our identity. The Brady dildos, our drafts under Beane, the play of our defense in the playoffs, the new stadium ticket pricing, the long and winding road to our future success, the lump of clay on the potter's wheel that is "The Process" before it comes to fruition in 15 more years, etc. It's beautiful! Thank you

Our any of his thirds over the prior three drafts.

This place cracks me up, and this is absolutely no reflection on you, just speaking generally. You just seem to mimic the more-than-not consensus on this perfectly. But after we signed Harty & Sherfield I argued that those signings wouldn't move the needle and propel us upward in our receivers and took a rash for it. ... And now this thread. LOL That's the best thing about this place, it never gets boring, even if it is schizophrenic.

And while unpopular, how bad our drafts have been. I mean where do most people think that Cincy for example got their WRs.

Most notably in the playoffs.

It's out defense that's the reason for our playoff losses. In our last three playoff losses or D has allowed 27, 42, & 38 points. It's not reasonable to expect your offense to have to put up 40-some points to win the game. This past season, of 13 playoff games, only one team scored more than 38. Only two scored more than 35. In 2021, only one team allowed more than the 42 we allowed to the Chiefs, the Pats allowed 47 to us. We and the Steelers allowed 42 to the Chiefs. No other team allowed more than 34 besides the Chiefs to us. In 2020, only one team allowed more than the 38 we allowed to the Chiefs, the Steelers again allowed 48 in the WC round and in the same game the Browns allowed 37 to the Steelers. Other than that, in the other 12 games the max points allowed was 32. We have two different defenses, a regular season defense which is good, and a playoff defense which isn't good.

7 of the top 8 in the AFC, w face 7 of the other top 9 besides Allen in 8 of our games, 5 of those on the road.

Might actually work out for him. He's not confined to a late-round rookie contract now.