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You're skirting and making excuses, not answering the question. So we'll take another approach, I'll cater to your arguments. To start, McNabb also wasn't great, he was hardly Favre, Manning, or Warner either, much less Brady, his peers in those days. In fact, McNabb was a pretty average, at best, QB. Likening him to Newton is fair, they both had similar trajectories. So let's rephrase the question, how would Reid have done with Favre, Warner, or Manning at QB? I mercifully left Brady off of there for you. BTW, would we even be having this conversation if a QB the caliber of McNabb had been drafted by Beane instead of Allen? I don't think so. Well, if they make it to the end of their extension without having done so, Allen will be entering his back-9.

The question boils down to whether or not McD, a defensive head coach, has what out takes to turn that ticket into a winner.

No one is questioning our prowess in the regular season, no one.

If Reid had had Allen in Philly, do you think it would have changed anything in that way?

Well thanks Tuel, one of your more congenial and substantive posts to me. 🙂 Having said that, three wild-card round wins, two over crap teams without QBs, and twice barely, and a single divisional round win, all with Allen, arguably the most athletically gifted and unique QB in league history, hardly stacks the evidence for a future Championship in your corner. For contrast, compare the 90s team's playoff performances with a notably lesser QB. We keep hearing from your side about this "positioning," perhaps you or some one can explain how many seasons/years of "positioning" is sufficient before a Championship can be expected?

The "word-of-the-day" appears to be stability. Stability is one thing, ultimate competitiveness entirely another. It's quite possible to have stability without being ultimately competitive. But given what you said, what are your expectation(s) for the team this year? Our playoff history isn't great here.

You just drastically altered the argument by the post to which I responded. Is that a standard to be held aloft as being great? Our 90's era team blew that out of the water and Kelly was no where near as good as Allen. Just sayin'

This season will be a huge piece to the answer to that question.

This season is going to be incredibly interesting, more so than most, on the field as well as here. LOL

Some coaches could have made them Super Bowl Champions instead of Super Bowl contenders. Some/most (never say never/all) good coaches wouldn't have committed that "13-Seconds" debacle and we'd likely have had our Super Bowl win already. Just sayin.

I'm not sure that anyone wanted him gone right now, but if this season ends up again barely beating another schlep team in the wild-card round followed by a loss in the divisional round, why do I see a significant change in attitude here. LOL Waiting the season would seem to have been wise. Not sure why the hurry with three seasons remaining on both of their contacts, which were sync'd a couple of years ago.

Agreed, three straight seasons of Allen advancing us past the wild-card round (twice against two of the worst teams in the playoffs) and even a divisional round win as a bonus. What more could anyone want as a Bills fan. 😁

Well, let's see how it all plays out.

Agreed, three wild-card round wins and one Divisional win, 0-fer on the road ain't cutting it with Allen. Some seem to be quite content with that however.

Two wild-card games and a Divisional game? With Allen? I certainly hope that fan expectations going forward are higher than that. Just sayin''

Thru 2025 otherwise, three more seasons.

Was thru 2025 Strange to extend now. Guessing that Pegs for emotional and wanted them to christen the new stadium. Let's hope that faith was well placed.

Curious when the first parts of the structure will be up.

Really? No, I'm taking comment sections as merely one in a myriad of opinions from fans that aren't necessarily Bills fans. Some are biased no doubt, ... unlike any of the opinions of McD apologists here. 🙄 It's this what you have as a strong suit in argument? 😂

Great post/link BFIR!! Excellent read! I hope that Jones flourishes in Jax with Lawrence. Thanks for posting! Sounds as if he may not be sure either. Entirely understandable that he doesn't want to talk about it though.

PFT, the articles that Florio blathers about. You're right, not a forum, but the comments. The comment sections can end being pretty lengthy. I check it out daily just to keep in touch with the rest of the league. I generally only care about us. Frankly, I'm not a big fan of the NFL these days, just us. Loose ends, I simply meant issues related to coaching. As to the bolded above, LOL, you're right. It's pretty funny too watch. The funny thing will be that say we lose to the Jets in week one, I will be relatively stable declaring it was only one game. Unless we lose a bunch of early games during the easier part of our schedule, we'll have to at least let the Divisional order play out. The odds of that happening before week 15 or 16 are slim.

It's comforting and reassuring to see that Terry's taking this on realizing that his name is going to be attached to it. Not only the seating, but it should also enhance the TV coverage aspect as well. So even for fans that don't attend it should improve.

I'm not calling anyone anything, just pointing out that homers outweigh non-homers typically in team forums, of any team, not merely here. As to PFT, just go to the Bills page and look at the threads with things that reflect on coaching, you'll see a majority of criticism from people that obviously aren't Bills fans. And honestly, look at the national media, it seems as if every few days someone posts a piece that's critical of us, to complain about, including McD, it's hardly a rarity these days. The mood of the national media is that McD is anything but secure. Also, like I've said, let the season play out, I have a strong hunch that the mood & narrative around here is going to be quite a bit different come December or January. But for anyone to suggest that there aren't at least a bunch of loose ends as he enters his 7th season isn't being honest with themselves.

That's your first clue. I'm wrong? Seems like that depends upon whether or not a "good percentage of Bills' fans" is nearly a third. I guess we can get caught up on semantics, but otherwise about 30% seems like a decent number. Have you read the comments on the threads at say PFT? They're quite the opposite and reflect the national football community, aka sans homers. So no, I don't think that's wrong at all. Frankly I could give a crap about whether I'm personally right or wrong, Go Bills, but it's ridiculous to think that there's not more heat than not on McD regarding both this as well as the situation in general here. But feel free to be right. Doesn't bother me. I'll even admit it, sure, you're right. I'm wrong. LOL Far too many people here concerned with "being right" rather than simply arguing the points in cordial discussion. SMH BTW, according to a poll here just over a week ago, over 50% seem to think that this is or should be make-or-break year for him, indicative that to date he hasn't cut it. Keep in mind that these polls are on fan sites that have a preponderance of homers and defensive apologists otherwise. I'm guessing that a poll in the Buffalo News might be different, but either way, 30-50% still seems like "a decent number" to me.

Sheeeet!! I hope it happens before then. I'd actually prefer it to happen in the current stadium given all of its history. Another one in the opening season would alter the epitaphs of many a Bills fan. Maybe I missed something while watching it, or misinterpreted it, but it seemed as it they were talking about designing portions of it as they went along. Am I off?