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In fairness, I'm not going to blame Allen for most of our playoff losses, particularly in '21. It's our defense that sucks rhino weenie on the playoffs. I put that on coaching. But agree that we're not likely to win three or four straight in the playoffs for that reason.

Overreaction much? We're talking two spots apart, for well over a thousand players. If you're ardent position were so valid, others wouldn't have rated Burrow higher. Who cares, it's an idiotic poll. Take things personally do ya? Easy chief! Life's too short ... Besides, I thought the defense had rested. 🤔🧐😎

Since you brought it up, there too Burrow's been far more consistent. He's also been to a Super Bowl in his 2nd season. Josh hasn't been in five. Just sayin'.

Roger that on consistency. It certainly hasn't been his friend.

Let's end this. It's going nowhere. I will say this, IMO Burrow is the better pure passer. Allen's overall athletic abilities are better as are his non-passing contributions. I suppose which is better, and they're different by two whopping irrelevant spots in this survey, is up to the circumstances of the play of the teams that they'd be on. Since Beane can't draft, we need Allen. Put Allen on Cincy and IMO he's even better than he is now. Not sure how good Burrow would be here, but guessing not as good as Allen. But in line with that, if I had to guess today whose career, which of those two that is, will last longer, I'd put all my money on Burrow in a NY second.

So "wins" are predicated entirely upon the play of the QB insofar as ANY/A goes in your mind then? Question, is it possible for a QB to be good but the team not win as much as a team with a QB that isn't quite as good? If so, then why?

Are they more important? How do you measure QBs comparatively? What stats do you use?

I am as well. I'm not big on, to start, a top of the coaching staff, aka all the key positions, that used to coach at Carolina, I mean it's literally like we transplanted the coaching staff from McD's time there to here, now. That's concerning since they did nothing there. Pegula's statements about the recent moves specifically address the "business side," per his own statements. To me that means it's not a focus on the football side. If those people start getting involved in football decisions, or influencing them, then I will be more concerned about that as well.

The ones that Burrow is better than, the ones typically used to valuate QBs. Just look at 'em, if they're better than Josh's, those are the ones I'm referring to.

Ooh Ooh, Mr. Kotter, ... hIs passing metrics over the past two seasons have been better than Allen's.

My money says he outperforms everyone's love interest Sherfield. LOL

We still get our guys from Carolina. I think McD's gotten just about everyone down there that he knew though, so for that reason that's gotta be coming to an end. Not sure what he does after that. Hell, the entire top of our coaching staff hales from there. Dorsey, Shula, and to a lesser extent Brady on the offensive side, and on the D side after McD we have Washington, Holcomb, and Babich. Those are all the top guys. At least the player pipeline guys that were there with McD are now applying for Medicare, so we've avoided further disaster there. LOL

Perspective I suppose. Like I said, it's going to be an interesting season. If you don't think those things are of concern, then you won't agree. In short, lack of proven anything relevant across the board.

Yikes!

As with everything, time will tell. I don't follow the Sabres closely enough to see the details, but I recall plenty of talk saying they same thing over the past decade. Esp. when they drafted Eichel. I don't think that Raccuia had any impact on the Bills, let's hope that Terry & Co. keep their hands off.

Hence my statements. It is what it is. Again, I and obviously some others don't find it to be inspiring.

OK At the same time, it was anything but complimentary phrasing, to ignore that also makes little sense. i.e. It was hardly a ceremonious positive send-off. Either way, to have Terry now significantly closer to the football decisions, when he himself has more or less stated a lack of qualifications (or interest) for doing so, is hardly inspiring. Spin it contrarily off you wish.

Looks can be deceiving. That haven't made the playoffs on Terry's ownership watch except in his first season on residual from that season. It's easily been the darkest era of Sabres franchise history. But maybe. I'm not willing to let the people involved there get closer to the Bills.

Yeah, like I said, seems as if they hired several people, none of which I look at the reasons started as to why they were hired inspiring anything positive. Thanks for the insights. What's the trial about?

Why would Terry specifically say that his departure was to improve the management team then? Seems odd phrasing given what you said.

I'm not sure that anyone's apologetic towards Raccuia, rather concerned that Terry & (new) company seem to be moving closer to the football stuff. Probably unfounded concerns, but given the Sabres definitely something to monitor.

Agreed Terry's specific words were about improving the management team. This is going to be a very interesting season. These management changes with Terry now more involved (I don't see how that's a good thing), people hired that it's questionable what they're backgrounds bring positively to the table, and a coaching staff the top of which that's essentially the Carolina coaching staff from McD's days. IMO it's either all going to shine or it's all going to flop. If the latter, Allen of course will cover a multitude of sins. Yes, that, A. B, some of the seeming reasons why they brought in a few of the new people aren't inspiring either. C, the top of our coaching staff, all the key game day decision-makers, are essentially the coaching staff from Carolina while McD was there. Again, concerning.

Touche LOL, no, but not necessarily quite that dense either.

If that's the occurrence, then the dude's not too bright, ... in being kind.

From one of the articles ... Is that a good thing? ... I don't follow the Sabres that closely.