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Do you post your rankings anywhere besides here?

Regarding the Day 1 prospects, how often do you come up with an analysis that differs from the typical media take?

Train commute?

You must be retired, LOL, that's 2 months of full-time work. I typically spend time only on the picks we make. At least the day 1 & 2 guys. I didn't this year, just read the profiles.

Be kinda funny if he got his bell rung and then pulled a Jim Marshall.

Weekend at Tua's

We agree that many don't bother to read the reality on some prospects. This stuff is freely available on multiple draft sites. Most of it stems from the same handful of sources, most sources don't go out and do their own research on 300 and some draft prospects. It takes a while to do a thorough analysis on a player including view key game films, review the statistical data, etc. Most simply defer to the Mel Kiper's and other draft "gurus" online which . I estimate that it takes about 6-8 hours to conduct a fairly thorough analysis on a player, and that's a full-time job for someone intent on doing a hundred or more players. Most schools will provide the video of a particular player and only every play he was involved in on O or D if you ask them, but that's still a couple of hours, particularly with replaying, slow-mo, etc. Some stuff is online, but I've not seen it en masse to that extent. I always find it amusing the people that claim that they watched every team's draftees play in college. Point being, that the info is already out there and it all essentially aligns, at least insofar as positional possibilities, etc. I'm not sure how "quasi-MLB" would work though. I suppose Lloyd could "fill-in," but if it's only a "quasi" role, ... It definitely raises questions. My issue with the current situation, and now that we've agreed on Williams and Bernard, is that Beane has made no plans for the post-Edmunds Bills. I know that you disagree, no need to give me a red-X, but it's readily apparent to me that never having drafted an ILB/MLB with any significant chance of developing into a starter, nor having picked one up in free-agency at any point, is an issue. How big of one we shall soon see. We agree entirely on the bolded part above. Where we differ is in that from what I've seen, he'd be a liability, a weakness in the D, perhaps not a huge one, but one nonetheless if he ended up starting at MLB. I don't think that opposing OCs and the QBs that we face would have a lot of difficulties exploiting him. He's not improving nor getting any faster at his age either. There too we'll have to wait and see. On the official website however he's the starting SAM, so that doesn't say much for Bernard or Dodson either. I don't know how current that is, but it was empty about a week ago. Also, consider, if Klein were that good, why has he bounced around on practice squads several times over the past couple of seasons. He's technically been on Chicago, Baltimore, and the Giants. Starting caliber LBs simply don't get bounced around like that. We are in alignment there, but I don't see that situation lasting very long, although as discussed, not sure what the solution will be. Perhaps simply a weakness in the middle. Thanks for the exchange!! Stands to reason though as well. I mean he's only 28 and this will be his second season back. I'd expect him to be at least 80% which for him would still be above-average. Hopefully "his old form" and 100%. Agree though, it's encouraging based upon reports.

Well, that is what every single draft profile on Williams says, I haven't found one, and I've looked at a good dozen that says he's even capable of playing MLB at all. I have no idea why so many here were saying that he'd end up playing MLB. We were just talking about how coaches say anything. LOL At the end of the day, if we have a MLB that's perpetually getting run through, over, and around, it would make sense to make some kind of adjustment. That's a bit harsh for Bernard, although I've already seen enough that he's not going to start at MLB with anything that below-average performance at the position. As ot Dodson, I don't disagree in the least. Hence the issues at MLB. But all along they've said that those two are 1/2 on the depth chart. After that are Klein and Spector. I know you're bigger on Klein than I am, but do you see either of them starting there with any particular success? I don't. You know my take on the matter otherwise. I'm told that this was all planned out.

We'll know very soon what's going on at MLB. I wouldn't consider that they don't try to eliminate the position altogether in favor of two OLBs. They're always so giddy about versatile players and confusing D looks, they may try something like that. I wouldn't do it, but it may be better than using an undersized MLB that simply doesn't have the umph to get the job done. You know MO, that it's going to be an issue. As with rags, we hope we're wrong. But there's nothing in the draft profiles of any of those two recent draftees that suggests they're capable of playing the position. Bernard was a reach in the 3rd according to most draft profiles. We'll see what happens.

That's what I meant. Bad humor apparently. With Jones he realizes the value of a passer. Yes yes, easy chief. Poor attempt at humor on my part. Geez ...

It's probably Belichick. He seems to know all bout the importance of QBs that can pass well to win. He has a degree from the school of hard knocks

As usual, what bothered me is the statements made to the public as if some of us are stupid. Peterman giving us the best chance to win ... whatever. Taylor would have been much better. I realize that they have to play the media game, but there's often a fine line between humiliating yourself and looking like a buffoon and couching statements to try and deflect.

You can cut 'em yourself too, it's easy. They cost a lot less that way. If money's no object, yeah, just buy 'em cut. Those generally are pretty good sized Wings. If you're pizza oven is a convection oven that's a pretty good way to cook 'em. Air fryers, aka convection ovens, are also good. I prefer deep-frying mine in lard, much healthier that way, they also taste better and don't stick together like they do when I fry them in soybean oil/vegetable oil. It's difficult to find lard, I get mine at a local meat processor for about as much as vegetable/soybean oil costs. You really need a deck/patio or garage to fry though, stinks up the house if you do it inside. ... unless you don't mind living in a Wendy's. LOL

Also depends upon the size of the fryer and how many wings are packed into it. I've found that spreading them out cooks them better and more quickly. IOW, instead of cramming 18 wings into a fryer without much space left, try 10 or 12, they'll fry up faster and get crispier more quickly, and I've found that they actually cook faster (more per hour) that way.

Leaning towards how Belgian (European) Pommes (fries) are cooked. I'll have to try that at home sometime.

That's it right there! 10+ years ago they were a good size. Then everyone got all amped up about bigger wings and they started breeding 'em differently. If they're too big you take a bite or two and all the surface crunchiness is gone and all you've got left is white chicken on a stick. Not much difference between that and a boneless breast piece of chicken.

Whatever happened, but we all know that McD didn't have too many people in his corner on the decision, and whatever happened, McD put his stamp of approval on it and he's the HC and makes the final decisions. I think. Depends upon whom we ask I suppose. LOL

Yeah, pretty much my take as well.

Not sure, again, I know I read it somewhere, not sure the particular instances. We do know, via his own statements, that he was a lot more confident in Peterman than pretty much anyone else. Whether there was in fact an individual out there somewhere, or more than one, that also shared that rosy outlook I obviously cannot say. Simply stating what I read about that somewhat after the fact. And again, and what some of the pieces in the links below also state, why McD thought that Peterman was better than Taylor is mindboggling as well. A couple of quick pieces on the topic that turned up per a quick google as a refresher: https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2018/07/19/buffalo-bills-sean-mcdermott-brandon-beane-nathan-peterman-tyrod-taylor-los-angeles-chargers-nfl/790696002/ https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2018/10/sean_mcdermott_still_confidant_in_nathan_peterman_after_another_disaster.html "I understand the fans and that sentiment, but at the same time I have to do what we feel is best for the football team going forward," McDermott said. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/sean-mcdermott-needs-to-look-at-the-tape-before-deciding-whether-nathan-peterman-should-be-benched/ https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/11/sean-mcdermott-starting-nathan-peterman-wasnt-necessarily-a-bad-idea.html https://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/09/nfl-buffalo-bills-sean-mcdermott-nathan-peterman-josh-allen https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/11/nfl-bills-sean-mcdermott-nathan-peterman-tyrod-taylor

LOL Could be. He's got nearly three times a many INTs as he does starts. His career rating is 39.4 and his respective ratings in Buffalo, Las Vegas, and Chicago are 32.5, 72.9, and 68.6. Whatever's in his head ain't even approaching translating to the field as you say. So are Tim Boyle, Kyle Trask, Chris Streveler, Jeff Driskel, David Blough, and John Wolford. son of Will BTW. He's right in their company, perhaps even low-end for them. I'm not sure that it's all that unusual for those types of QBs to be around. Once they hit 30 or so they tend to disappear as more "nothing QBs" that are younger have entered the league. Looking at QBs 30+, I can't find one of that caliber around that took any snaps last season. It would be very odd to see a QB like that around at the age of say 35. I can't imagine he'll be on anyone's roster much longer. LOL It is and was somewhat perplexing. I remember reading somewhere that McD was on an island re: the Peterman decision, no one else on the staff supported it.

You can smell the season starting from here!

Funny you say that, I typically make my own wings now for that reason, but also because they're so expensive now out. It's $40 for an order of wings, a couple of drafts, and a tip. BTW, at least in Rochester, the wings were also much better generally speaking when you were young, handsome, and cool.

Yikes! 3.3 out of the gate. 4.2 on Google already. They'd better get those kinks worked out quickly. I wonder if some Rochester folk are rating it low because it's a Buffalo place. I've been looking to go to Roch to check it out, trying to go during Camp, but I think I'll wait until the wait times diminish, at least during the week. Or maybe just go solo to the bar for recon purposes.

Keep in mind tho that McD did say at one point that Peterman gave them the best chance to win. FWIW Whether he may have just said that without believing it, who knows. But it's not as if Peterman had any more experience or other credentials to substantiate that position. Again, FWIW. Jury's still out on Cook too.

Excellent analysis!!