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How do you know what my background is? Otherwise, as I added in edit, what are these expert sources that you've cited, what, Youtubers? LOL Again, from what I've seen absolutely none contradict what I've laid out. In fact, they focus on his role in pass defense/coverage. Which again, I have no argument with. So show me all of these expert sources, I'll see what their background is, and we can go from there. See, the difference between you and I in this exchange, is that I've provided info from several sources. All you've provided is that you've watched so-called "experts" without having pointed out to me their videos, articles featuring details, etc. Maybe you have to someone else, but not to me you haven't. So feel free to post them. Maybe I'll agree with you after I view them.

That's fine, I'll favor the facts in the breakdown between rushing and passing D. We all make our choices. I do have a hunch however that your opinion will be changing significantly as the season goes along. BTW, who are those people and where's their work, besides "they said so"? From what I've seen on Youtube, none contradict what I've laid out.

Again, he was just fine in pass coverage. Nothing to be concerned about there whatsoever. He was not good in most other aspects. He was blown up on most run plays, made zero impact at the LOS, and made no solo tackles on RBs. In fact, I distinctly commented to one friend during the game that on one running play he looked like a log in the middle of a tsunami. He was involved in, secondarily, not primariy, three comb tackles on running plays by RBs that netted an average of 5 yards, 15 yards total. The primary tacklers on those plays were White, Oliver, and Jones. He was involved in a few at the end of the game while the Jets were merely posturing for FG positioning, which I did not count for what should be obvious reasons. He made one solo tackle on Zach Wilson on a scramble that gained 6 yards, and was in on another with Lawson as the primary on a Wilson 2-yard sneak on 4th-and-1 and Bernard with contact only well after Wilson had already crossed the 1D mark. All other tackles were on pass plays. Make whatever you want of it. We're clearly not going to agree, so no sense in contining this exchange.

I don't care how it's calculated, those are the facts. I'd be happy to go thru play by play. From what I've seen, which is extensive, he's good on pass plays in coverage, not so much in pass-rush, but sucks v. the run. Which is what we already knew about him. He'll be a liability on running plays all season.

I just went through all 11. 77 total yards. Lazard's 24 yard catch alone, who was his man, his botch, was 24. Anyway, that's 7 yards per.

Agree with your overall take. That is key however. It stands to reason that his "panic" let's just call it, stems from the patterned behavior of having to often scramble for to the ineffectiveness of the OL for five seasons. Also, few teams are going to bring it like the Jets did. He'll improve, the question is to what extent. This week will be interesting, the O will be under less pressure, the D more.

Did you go through the pbp to see where those tables were? Most of the short stops were his comb tackles, where frankly, of you review the game, you'll not that he was secondary on. Also, MLBs are all but categorically the top tacklers in the league. But I liked his play to that is DB tackles. When a CB leadsca team in tackles, it's typically not a good sign for what would be obvious reasons. TB's tackles were more of that nature.

Kirksey is little more than Klein 2.0. I wouldn't get too excited.

In fairness to Allen, if it's a lack of preparation then coaching is implicated as well. And to me that's been a no-brainier since there's been a consistent lack of prep in other areas also, particularly in the playoffs. As far as the confusion and panic go, while other teams with top QBs have gone out of their ways to put solid OLs in front of them, McBeane have neglected that in favor of choosing to be obsessed with the pass rush and have all but ignored that until this season. Had they done that, it would have helped Allen properly develop in that way. The Jets' pass rush is outstanding, but it OL finally did a halfway decent job on Monday. All five OL-men played 100% of the snaps and Torrence looked good. Brown was the only consistent issue but even he blocked well at times. That exposed Allen's issues as as such. But are those issues now a patterned behavior and response from five prior seasons of running for his life, we don't know. The problem is that that also doesn't completely explain his not taking advantage of the higher percentage outlet passes.

Same questions I have, very rational ones.

If he's ignoring things then that's one thing. If he's struggling with it, it's altogether another, and a more serious thing. Curious what the issue is. Reading D's has never been a strength of his. Maybe he's simply never picked it up completely.

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Some of that is our staff not adjusting anywhere near to where our opponents do. Particularly the good coaches. It might also help to explain why Allen's numbers in the 1st halves of games are very good while in the 2nd halves of games they're incredibly average at best. Last season 24 of Allen's passing TDs were in the 1st halves of games. He had 11 in the 2nd halfs of games. His INTs were about the same despite having about 25% fewer passing yards in the 2nd halves of games. His 1st half rating average was 103.1, his 2nd half rating average was 89.5. His numbers yesterday by half: 1st Half: 17 of 21 (81.0%), 133 Passing Yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 89.1 Rating 2nd Half: 12 of 18 (66.67%), 103 Passing Yards, 0 TDs, 2 INTs, 41.9 Rating While many here are loathe to accept it, in-game adjustments, which is an incredibly significant attribute of the best coaches in the league, is not something that McD is great at if even good at. IMO he's below average at it. But hey, "we have a winning culture." I wonder if we'd still have a winning culture if we went 10-7 or so. BTW, despite all of that, with a single exception, the only reason why we've won any playoff games is because Allen gets into a zone. McD would be 1-6 in the playoffs with this team if it weren't for Allen. ... Actually, we'd be 0-6 since one of those games got us to the one we won with a mere 17-point offensive effort. We never would have gotten past that game that got us to that one.

Agreed, you're preaching to the choir there. It seems that McD lacks whatever it is across the board however, even with is coaches. I can't say for sure, but it seems that he's more intent on having a happy little team (players and coaches) community, than doing what's critical in the interests of winning, particularly in the biggest of games. That would explain why we have no trouble getting [emotionally] up for a key game here and there during the season, but in the playoffs and when going up against better coaches, we typically struggle.

We'll, you're asking the wrong person, I'm of the mind that one of McD's major coaching flaws is that he's not a good disciplinarian. He's to much of a "players coach.".

Age 27, sixth season in the league, presumably this talk happened at some point well before now. If not, then coaching has to be quite seriously questioned.

Where'd he get the land that the oil was on? IDK, seriously asking.

Perhaps I heard incorrectly, but a number of years ago I read that his parents owned the land that he developed. It's easy to get a loan to develop something concrete. Try starting a business with no collateral and needing loans. HINT: Good Luck That may be incorrect, but that's what I read somewhere. It's not all that important. Point is that many wealthy people started with mom & dad's money or assets.

Mom & Dad's money.

BTW, other than for generalities, we know that McD isn't going to say anything specifically to implicate himself in any of the team's most significant faults.

That's the way I see it too. Milano was actually the MLB on that play in a clinically traditional 4-3 alignment. I'd question why on 1st-and-10 they were so concerned about a run UTM. The other puzzling thing is that the DL converges on the middle, again, on 1st-and-10, not 3rd-and-1 or 2. Bernard, who's lined up in the SLB spot, makes a beeline for the Center of the OL. Why? That's beyond well-covered. Where there's no presence, besides as you mentioned, namely White, a CB, is on the edge, where Hall makes his break between White, who whiffs entirely, and that edge, and gone. And if it was White that was supposed to set that edge, well, then he simply whiffed. McD's comment may be a way of deflecting criticism of his choice for starting LB this season, whether it be SLB or MLB regardless.

If things are that wrong so often then it raises other questions re: the DC.

No disagreement here except that it's not Beane's job to get involved there. It is Dorsey and McD's job, and if Dorsey ain't doin' it, then McD's to "explain it" to Dorsey. It appears that either little of that is happening, which after last season would be inexplicable, or that Allen's ignoring it. Either way, it's not good.

I wish we'd play and have our offensive plays called as if we actually know where the 1st-Down marker is. It's mindboggling at times how our play-calls or decisions on plays appear to be in complete ignorance of that. Both Dorsey and Allen are implicated.

It definitely raises questions. Some people here defending Dorsey, but while reviewing the game, highlights only for now, he's still an issue. I've said it before and I'll continue to repeat it, but he coaches as if he's trying to relive his Canes years all over again. This isn't college ball. As to Allen, again, simply from the highlights, there are another one possibly two before this one, but here's a fantastic example of what most people realize; 4:10 mark in the video, midway through the 2nd Q, Kincaid runs a crossing pattern short and is WIDE open on the right side, but Allen, who must've seen him, decides to go deep where both Davis and Diggs are amidst 4 coverage guys. Fortunately Davis caught it in heavy traffic, but a much safer pass with zero chance of being intercepted would have been wiser and STILL gotten the 1st-Down. There's a reason why opponents back off of our short out receivers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk8DnHKqBRg Other notes: Bernard gets disposed of like a rag doll on the next Jets play in the video. On Milano's subsequent INT, while great it was simply a horrible throw, not great D. If Wilson puts it a little farther downfield it's a huge gain. Then at 5:20 I don't understand this play call. It's 3rd-and-13, Kincaid goes deep on the right but he doesn't even approach having the speed to beat Gardner deep, Davis is covered well by Reed on the left side, while Diggs and Knox both break short, well short of the 1st-Down marker and covered so that even if either of them catches it they won't get the 1st. Then Allen nearly gets himself killed going airborne 6 yards short of the marker. :shrug: Mindboggling play call. At the 6:08 mark in the video Bernard again demonstrating that he cannot hold up at the point of attack in the running game as he gets shoved 6 of 7 yards downfield on that running play. Side note: Yet another play after that where our fully healthy Brown is still a turnstyle and in this game he was highly problematic still. We'll see re: him going forward. A couple plays later Bernard being absolutely useless again with his inability to shed a pretty simple block to the inside on a 15-yard run by Cook. Then on the next play in the video, Carter making a catch wide open OTM with Milano and Hyde getting to him way before Bernard does. The next play, another Dorsey special, 3rd-and-6 on a designed play to Cook who catches it with defenders in the area from the two receivers in front of him screening, supposedly anyway, and 5 yards from the 1st-Down marker. Result, 4th/punt. Then on the next Jets play, once again, Bernard demonstrating that he has no business starting at MLB. Torrence was impressive most of the game considering that this was his first game as a rookie and given the man-to-man competition. At 8:47, another fantastic example of Allen not taking advantage of the short much easier stuff and forcing it into traffic, again for an INT. 3rd-and-2, Diggs is WIDE open at the 1D line for an easy 1st-Down. Instead, Allen goes deep to Davis in double-coverage and underthrows him for the INT. (aka not Davis' fault) On the next play in the video, Zach Wilson demonstrates great pocket presence, and hits a wide open Lazard in the left flat for a huge gain and 1D. That appears to have been Bernard's guy, but Bernard also appears to have allowed himself to be blocked by another Bill during the play. Then another play with great pocket presence by Wilson who hits Garrett Wilson deep setting up their TD on that spectacular catch by Wilson a play later. 10:10 Bernard siting with an assisted tackle on a run stuff. Then, LOL, Bernard on the very next play. 10:53 Allen again ignoring a wide open Kincaid at the 1D line and going for Davis who was well covered m2m on 2nd-and-3. Again on the next play, Knox wide open at the LOS for a good sized gain on 1st-and-10, instead Allen throws it to Diggs who has 3 defenders near him. Again, it's 1st-and-10, not 3rd-and-10. 11:45 3rd-and-10 Allen waiting way too long while looking downfield before he throws it inaccurately to a wide open Murray in the left flat, and who was also well-positioned to run OOB. Incomplete. It almost seems as if the play would have been designed in that instance specifically for Murray there. That 3rd-and-12 play call in OT also has to be questioned. Was a single receiver beyond the 1D line? FWIW What should be concerning is that he's been reiterating that he's more focused than he's ever been. If that's truly the case then it's problematic.