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I wish we'd play and have our offensive plays called as if we actually know where the 1st-Down marker is. It's mindboggling at times how our play-calls or decisions on plays appear to be in complete ignorance of that. Both Dorsey and Allen are implicated.

It definitely raises questions. Some people here defending Dorsey, but while reviewing the game, highlights only for now, he's still an issue. I've said it before and I'll continue to repeat it, but he coaches as if he's trying to relive his Canes years all over again. This isn't college ball. As to Allen, again, simply from the highlights, there are another one possibly two before this one, but here's a fantastic example of what most people realize; 4:10 mark in the video, midway through the 2nd Q, Kincaid runs a crossing pattern short and is WIDE open on the right side, but Allen, who must've seen him, decides to go deep where both Davis and Diggs are amidst 4 coverage guys. Fortunately Davis caught it in heavy traffic, but a much safer pass with zero chance of being intercepted would have been wiser and STILL gotten the 1st-Down. There's a reason why opponents back off of our short out receivers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk8DnHKqBRg Other notes: Bernard gets disposed of like a rag doll on the next Jets play in the video. On Milano's subsequent INT, while great it was simply a horrible throw, not great D. If Wilson puts it a little farther downfield it's a huge gain. Then at 5:20 I don't understand this play call. It's 3rd-and-13, Kincaid goes deep on the right but he doesn't even approach having the speed to beat Gardner deep, Davis is covered well by Reed on the left side, while Diggs and Knox both break short, well short of the 1st-Down marker and covered so that even if either of them catches it they won't get the 1st. Then Allen nearly gets himself killed going airborne 6 yards short of the marker. :shrug: Mindboggling play call. At the 6:08 mark in the video Bernard again demonstrating that he cannot hold up at the point of attack in the running game as he gets shoved 6 of 7 yards downfield on that running play. Side note: Yet another play after that where our fully healthy Brown is still a turnstyle and in this game he was highly problematic still. We'll see re: him going forward. A couple plays later Bernard being absolutely useless again with his inability to shed a pretty simple block to the inside on a 15-yard run by Cook. Then on the next play in the video, Carter making a catch wide open OTM with Milano and Hyde getting to him way before Bernard does. The next play, another Dorsey special, 3rd-and-6 on a designed play to Cook who catches it with defenders in the area from the two receivers in front of him screening, supposedly anyway, and 5 yards from the 1st-Down marker. Result, 4th/punt. Then on the next Jets play, once again, Bernard demonstrating that he has no business starting at MLB. Torrence was impressive most of the game considering that this was his first game as a rookie and given the man-to-man competition. At 8:47, another fantastic example of Allen not taking advantage of the short much easier stuff and forcing it into traffic, again for an INT. 3rd-and-2, Diggs is WIDE open at the 1D line for an easy 1st-Down. Instead, Allen goes deep to Davis in double-coverage and underthrows him for the INT. (aka not Davis' fault) On the next play in the video, Zach Wilson demonstrates great pocket presence, and hits a wide open Lazard in the left flat for a huge gain and 1D. That appears to have been Bernard's guy, but Bernard also appears to have allowed himself to be blocked by another Bill during the play. Then another play with great pocket presence by Wilson who hits Garrett Wilson deep setting up their TD on that spectacular catch by Wilson a play later. 10:10 Bernard siting with an assisted tackle on a run stuff. Then, LOL, Bernard on the very next play. 10:53 Allen again ignoring a wide open Kincaid at the 1D line and going for Davis who was well covered m2m on 2nd-and-3. Again on the next play, Knox wide open at the LOS for a good sized gain on 1st-and-10, instead Allen throws it to Diggs who has 3 defenders near him. Again, it's 1st-and-10, not 3rd-and-10. 11:45 3rd-and-10 Allen waiting way too long while looking downfield before he throws it inaccurately to a wide open Murray in the left flat, and who was also well-positioned to run OOB. Incomplete. It almost seems as if the play would have been designed in that instance specifically for Murray there. That 3rd-and-12 play call in OT also has to be questioned. Was a single receiver beyond the 1D line? FWIW What should be concerning is that he's been reiterating that he's more focused than he's ever been. If that's truly the case then it's problematic.

Upon further review, yes. The current Jets under Saleh appear to be an insurmountable hurdle for McD and his Bills. In our last three games total, with Allen as our QB and White (1) and Wilson (2) as their QBs, they've outplayed us generally and aggregately. In those three games they have better metrics on everything except passing yards. They've outscored us, 54-53 Average 18 - 17.7 They've gotten more 1st-Downs, 53-52 Average 17.7 - 17.3 They've gotten more Total Yards, 908-863 Average 303 - 288 They've logged more Rushing Yards, 422-333 Average 141 - 111 They've gotten more Takeaways, 6-4 The Passing Yards favor us, 530-486 177 - 162 Both teams have 5 TDs. We have 2 Passing TDs and 3 Rushing TDs, all three rushing TDs by Allen They have 2 Passing TDs, 2 Rushing TDs, and 1 Special Teams TD FWIW

Kirksey is a grasping-at-straws pick-up. I realize that no one thinks he's Moseley, but he's about the same as Klein was and the team didn't see fit to keep Klein around. A year younger, that's the primary difference. The lack of average play there is going to be most prominent when we play balanced offensive teams. There are plenty on our schedule this season, more so than any other year under McD. It's going to be interesting to be sure. Our offense is really going to need to carry this team this season. Yesterday was not a good start, as I mentioned elsewhere, this was our worst regular season scoring output in 22 regular season games.

I'm surprised he's even on a PS. Does what you added alter the point in any way, shape, or form? That's the important thing.

I didn't say that. You said that I said that. We were talking about the vacant level of play at MLB implicitly. Pick on someone else.

Yeah, sorry, again, I probably should have specified, I meant moving the ball in our direction, not the Jets' direction. Other than the aforementioned FG drive, we had four drives totaling 70 yards, an average of 17 yards/drive with a long drive of 34. In the first half we had two scoring drives of 75 and 60. Hence the comparison and contrast.

It's incumbent upon coaching to get this to sink into Allen's head by explaining it to him. If they can't do it, then Pegula needs to find someone that can. If they've seriously and effectively done that and it still hasn't sunk in, then another problem exists. Allen's plenty bright. Our 16 points in regulation was our worst in 22 regular season games, and with our new-and-improved offense.

Cook has never been a tackle-breaking player, not even in college. He was drafted for his speed. It's wrong to expect that from him. But that's what McBeane want. I was hoping to see more of Harris yesterday, he only saw 9 snaps. Seems as if he's like Hines, a lot of hype over his signing, but maybe they won't use him much either. Good coaching would know how to optimize the talent we have.

Keep in mind though that the Jets OL is not good, well below-average. Bigger tests of our push rush await. Kincaid played 80% of the offensive snaps.

Beasley was exceptional at finding the open spots in coverage.

Well, remember, it's by design. McBeane want faster coverage guys in the back 7. So that's what we have. And they do that pretty well. It simply comes at an expense.

Not in the first half we didn't. Also, that's a trash exaggeration. At least bring truth to the discussion.

Not even Edmunds in particular, rather the complete lack of planning for it.

It's never McD. That's been established. He's only the head coach.

We shouldn't have had only 16 points in regulation. The only game that we scored fewer points in last season was the Cincy playoff game.

Ya think. LOL Funny how our "genius defensive mind" couldn't envision that. Seems blatant.

With the lone exception of the FG drive to tie it, we did nothing in the second half. Or staff routinely gets out-adjusted. I'll have to rewatch it, but when we're on offense I'm routinely looking to see which receivers Allen ignores in flavor of the deep balls, guys that are wide open. I was planning on making an ongoing montage video off it this season. But I didn't see a lot of those yesterday. If anyone has the time stamps for them let me know, I'll include them.

With the lone exception of the FG drive to tie it, we did nothing in the second half. Or staff routinely gets out-adjusted.

Dorsey should be much further along than he is at this point if he's ever going to be any good. Our coaching staff is like an experiment to see how less-than-optimal coaches can do with a talent like Allen.

We can blame coaching all we want, but at the end of the day this was another poorly coached game, offensively in particular as well as in general. It doesn't say much, other than buckle up, it could be a longer season than we thought, when not only did we lose to a Zach Wilson led team, but when he didn't even prepare for the game. He looked OK, better than he looked last season and he gave them enough big plays. 16 points from our new-and-improved offense. SMH We averaged 18.5 against the same D last season without Kincaid. All 5 OL-men played every snap too. SMH

He was, but the Jets' OL isn't really a high bar for measuring that. Same for our pass D, ... Zach Wilson. 16 points when we scored 12 & 20 last season, with a better O this season, isn't a good omen.

With two games to plan from, McD couldn't even get us to our 2-game average of last season, with a better offense. Last season we had the 2nd ranked scoring offense. Six teams or up more points against them than we did in our best game last season. They ranked 8th, 11th, 14th, 18th, 23rd, and 26th.

We'll, he plays MLB, he's expected to do it regularly. I assure that he did not fit it anything close to regularly. He got blown up many times.

There's not a big difference between Kirksey & Klein. Cook had never had more than 140 touches and that was at Georgia. His high here is 110. I'm sure there's a reason for that.