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Yeah, he's doing such a fine job in NY.

Well, then our $60M man is simply going to have to try to out-execute his offensive counterpart.

According to Spotrac, his dead cap hit is $32M next season. His cap hit with the team is $24M.

If this continues we may be talking about a complete rebuild with the exception of Allen. If this continues we'll be 5-12 or 6-11 in three months. There's no sense in making any changes now. Let's see if the team can pull its head out of its arse. But honestly, if we play the Bucs like this next week at home it's going to get FUGLY. If McD cannot get this team into some phase of an effective above-average steady-state of offense, it'll be interesting.

Sacrilege!!! Anathema! You mean the holy Process isn't holy for as undefined as it is? Beware the lightning.

Two losses and a win that should have been a loss, with two of the three being against two of the worst teams in the league. Let's say instead of three games that were 8 games, would your take still be the same? At what point do you have issues with it? Just curious.

It'd be one thing if we were getting the most from Allen and the offense under him, but that's far from the case. But we have a "winning culture" and "character." Apparently those of us thinking that can get a whole lot more than what we're actually getting are "soft." LOL

IDK, if I'm in the locker room I'm pretty pissed off that we didn't play anywhere near to the level that we're capable of playing. ... for three weeks straight now and even somewhat prior to that. Soft?

Marginally being the operative word there.

LOL, but come on, you saw a lot of creativity in our play-calling otherwise today?

No, every team's goal is to win a Super Bowl. Getting to the playoffs is merely one step in that progression. Not one team ever has said once it gets to the playoffs, ... Coach: Well fellas, we've achieved our goal. Let's just have fun from here on out and win or lose, remember, we achieved what we've set out to do. It's been a great season. Thanks for participating.

Beane and McD are handcuffed. Beane can't fire McD, but Beane's likely gone too if Pegs ever fires McD. If Pegs is thinking about firing Beane, then it's common sense he'd send McD with him. The head of the snake, ... so to speak.

So that's your goal, regardless of what happens when we get there?

We seem to excel at getting the whole to equal less than the sum of the parts on offense.

So, say we scrape in at 10-7, then lose again like we typically do in the wild-card or divisional round. You're still hopeful that McD's the one that can deliver the hardware?

BTW, our LBs, whom McBeane sold to us, Williams and Bernard, aren't built for the kind of game that they faced today, where more traditional LBs were required. Even if we make the playoffs, does that mean that he's adequate?

Jones was playing at a high. He wasn't going to, nor will if he returns, continue play at that level for an entire season. Remember who we played, it wasn't the Chiefs, Bengals, Eagles, and Dallas. We got amped up for one game against a decent offense. Hammering Howell, the most sacked QB in the league, Garropolo who's hardly fleet of foot, and Wilson isn't hammering Young, Brady, and Mahomes. Fine, but the D with him in out of it was no different in that respect from the D with him in or out of it last season. He sucked when he was in. So there shouldn't be any difference comparatively there. The quality of our LBs exposed our LBs. That's a Beane issue. Other teams rely on their depth with the loss of a DT like that. Not minimizing it, but also not monumentalizing it either. Full agreement. Well, to start, we're helpless. LOL All we can do is lament and gripe. I'll join you in a round of "get off my lawn." The cap problems, again, are on Beane. When you take risks like we did on Von Miller, and have to go to free-agency due to your lack of being able to get the requisite talent via the draft, when you re-sign players like Knox at that cost, etc., that's your problem, meaning the one that did that. That's Beane. it's his mess, let him clean it up. It's good that the awareness for these things is increasing however. Perhaps there's a solution in the next season or two. That's on Pegula.

You mean own up to the fact that he really has no answers? That much seems clear. In fairness, what do people expect, for him to say, ... yeah, I'm a little out of my element here offensively speaking, a lot really. I'm having to lean heavily on Dorsey and I'm not quite sure he's experienced enough to figure it out either. Is that the statement we're awaiting? LOL

Right, he knows absolutely nothing about offense. Entrusting the entire baby & bathwater to a second year OJT OC with a questionable regimen. Nothing new here. How to correct it is simple. But we don't want to take the path with the tough questions and answers.

You mean what if we had planned well? Imagine Basham instead. Yet another DL-man. SMH

The way that the Bucs have been playing, contrasted with the way that we've been playing, that's a good guess. We'll have our games though this season, despite the overall inconsistencies. At some point we're due for a ringer or a two or three game stretch of them.

Or, we go 6-4, finish 10-7, make the playoffs as a wild-card, lose in either the wild-card or divisional round again, and Pegula's still content. If there is a silver-lining to this, it's that more people are waking up to the fact that more than we've attributed to our shortcomings is correctly being pinned on coaching with the teflon starting to flake off of McD. This team doesn't need a head coach that has no idea how to run an offense, when the lynchpin to the entire team's success is its generational talent QB. It needs a head coach that understands offense and QBs, intimately, and one that knows how to get the most from the talent we have. Then it also needs a GM that understands the importance of having a top-notch OL in front of that QB. Right now we have neither of those.

Or, we go 6-4, finish 10-7, make the playoffs as a wild-card, lose in either the wild-card or divisional round again, and Pegula's still content.

LOL, now this kick to the nuts! Had to happen against us.

... and let's not ignore the fact that McD is simply being a Defensive Coordinator entirely consistent with his time at Carolina doing so. Why anyone is surprised at that makes no sense whatsoever.