Gavin in Va Beach

I warned you not to eat on an empty stomach. /ringo

Absolutely right, throwing deep is the key to NFL quarterbacking success! Just look at all those Super Bowls Jeff George won!

If I don't vote for Obama, am I racist because I didn't vote for his black half or am I not racist because I didn't vote for his white half?

No. Addai has been very average this year, is getting constantly dinged up, and now it sounds like Rhodes may cut into his carries due to the great game he had last Sunday. Roy Williams just went to a team with a legit offense, his value only went up. Thomas Jones is having some success with the right matchup. Pass on this one.

I like Tony G, but you overpay on a young player with potential (like JP), not on a player who's looking forward to retirement. If there's someone who's screwed up this deal, it's Peterson. He should have been happy with a third rounder and freeing up the cap space to sign more people next offseason. Hell he probably could have negotiated a third rounder that bumps up to second if certain milestones were reached by Tony. Credit to the Bills for having a plan and sticking with it, not getting desperate and going above what they wanted.

"Mongo only pawn... in game of life." Hedley Lamarr: My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives. Taggart: God darnit, Mr. Lamarr, you use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore. Hedley Lamarr: Qualifications? Applicant: Rape, murder, arson, and rape. Hedley Lamarr: You said rape twice. Applicant: I like rape.

Brilliant post Fink. You could repost it in a new thread with the title 'Why our Country is in Deep Excrement'.

This kills me though, because basically you're saying the banking and financial system is all smoke and mirrors and as long as no one questions anything (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!) then everything is hunkey dorey. God forbid anyone speak up and say the emperor has no clothes. I'm I niave to think a strong banking and financial system is tied to something real, something with value? I'm not saying go back to the gold standard, though some arguments to do just that might have merit, I dunno, but is it wrong to believe that some serious mistakes have been made with the way the banking and financial systems have been run and it's time to rethink things? And I disagree that there are no winners in a Pyrrhic War, in this case anyway. There may be no winners in this current generation, but future generations may benefit from the sacrifice. I want this situation used as a way to fix things so it's stronger down the road for my children and their children. Propping things up with false credibility and trust isn't going to do them any good.

I agree with Alec Baldwin? Surely the End of Days is upon us.

File under 'Tough Schit'. When you say 'stabilize' you mean 'prop up'. Housing must correct to help fix this mess. If people overpaid and risk losing down payments when they want to sell, oh well. People bet wrong on stocks and lose money all the time, why is housing different? There were many people that recognized the housing bubble and put off buying a house at inflated prices and rented instead. Why should they be penalized for doing the sensible thing? Who are you going to convince to buy your 'stabilized' house with the funny money sub-prime mortgages gone and lenders tightening standards even for those with good credit? If we relax tapping 401ks for home purchases as you propose, do you really think the average schmo is going to feel confident in doing that to buy a house/asset that could still fall in value as much if not more than the 401k itself? Your best case scenario- Congress tells the people "treat your 401k like a normal savings account, empty the whole thing now if you want with no penalty to buy a house." The people respond and do just that and pump all that money back into the housing market. How long does that last until the 401k money slows to a trickle and people realize that, once again, housing has become overinflated? Aren't we now back where we started? Aren't more problems created because while people were pumping money into buying their house their 401ks were nearly empty and didn't realize the benefit from the market turnaround the once again inflated housing market helped create? Now housing values are falling again, the stock market is falling again, and people are getting doubly screwed because the value of their 'asset' is falling and the 401k account isn't anywhere near it should be for comfortable retirement. I still say it's time for long-term thinking and solutions. Short-term/instant gratification is what has gotten us into this mess, but I'm just a caveman, your world frightens and confuses me.

An overrated musician endorses an overrated politician? :yawn:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j8gyIFA...7a6VOwD93FVFM80 Sep 28, 2008 CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — Referee Ed Hochuli was at the center of another questionable call Sunday, flagging Julius Peppers for a roughing-the-passer penalty that wiped out Carolina's interception return for a touchdown in the first quarter against Atlanta. After Matt Ryan's pass was intercepted by Richard Marshall, Hochuli threw a flag and announced Peppers made a helmet-to-helmet hit on Ryan. It erased the touchdown and gave the Falcons a first down on a drive that ended with a punt. Replays showed Peppers made contact as Ryan released the ball, and appeared to hit him first with his shoulder.

The root cause of the current problem is overinflated housing prices. F**k "propping up" the housing prices for a short-term fix because it will only make it all the worse when it's time to pay the piper. We Americans (primarily the scumbags in government and the executives in big business, but we consumers have to share the blame too) have created this mess because of short-term thinking. I'm sick of it and scared to death what it's going to mean to our children's future. It's time to stop acting like children with no patience, swallow the bitter pill, and put our financial house and economy back on solid ground.

Didn't catch the show, but the transcript of it provides some interesting reading. Sure sounds like we're screwed. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/05/...in4502454.shtml

What a freakin' load of bullschit. Why can't politicians resist the urge to attach pork to perhaps the most important bill they will ever vote on in their lives? This totally demonstrates the utter lack of leadership we have at all levels. Any "leader" should be in front of the cameras saying they want a 'clean' bill, containing only matters relevent to fixing the financial system, and explaining why it's important and how it will work. What do we get? Crickets. !@#$ them all. Where do I sign up for the American Revolution Ver 2.0 ?

Someone hid a video camera in my house

You mean like when they tried to make a fix in 2003? Oh and who led the effort to do nothing? Barney Frank - D http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html An excerpt of his opening statement:

Listening to Mike and Mike this morning, Golic mentioned the season he had with the Dolphins where they started 9-2, lost 5 in a row, and just missed the playoffs. Talk about the playoffs all you want, but it's just talk. There's still much more work to be done.

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I like Solomon, but if you were playing a drinking game where you had to take a drink every time he said '2nd level', then you were definitely schitfaced by the end of the game.

I give up: Lendale White and Torry Holt I receive: Steve Smith (Carolina) My RBs: Tomlinson, J. Jones, MJD, Slaton My WRs: Jennings, L. Evans, Mason, Meacham

Where do I apply for my bailout? I only need about 10 million or so...

Awwwwww sheeeeeeeeet. "Hello? James Hardy? It's opportunity, and I think you hear me knockin'."