MiracleAtRich1393

You listed a lot of elite TEs for those other teams (fairly I might add) but people often overlook Gronk as a weapon for NE, a probable first ballot HOF game changing weapon in his own right!

IMO needs to be QB, pass rusher, pass catcher. Mahomes/Chris Jones/Kelce (plus Hill for one SB) Stafford/Donald/Von/Kupp (and OBJ played like one for half the super bowl) Guys that warp the field and command attention. Do things that are unstoppable. Had Josh/Von/Diggs until Von went down in '22. Kincaid doesn't strike fear into the defense (yet, and may never be), Oliver gets erased in the playoffs, Milano is nice but not a guy you game plan around, Samuel & Shakir are nice complementary players. Now it's just Josh. Trade way up for Nabers or Odunze and that gets you to two, then with all the cap space next year get a complete game wrecker pass rusher in his prime. Fill out the rest of the roster with rookie contracts and solid vets. Hope the big 3 are healthy in the playoffs and a couple other guys like Kincaid develop into very good/great players that can exploit the attention the big 3 garner. That's the formula.

Von was on it for 10 games 😢

This needs to happen

The classic Steve Urkel / Stefon Urquelle dichotomy

🤣 noted! Just think with a year under Von's tutelage he could put it all together. I'd much rather a WR though, much much rather

This is why the only non-WR I wouldn't be disappointed by us taking at 28 is Chop Robinson. We saw with Von how expensive these guys are in the secondary market. You can get quality receivers on day 2 this year but there are only 3 or 4 potential high upside difference-making edge rushers and they're all R1

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Yep - not nearly the same issue in the slot as on the boundary (press coverage)

Is there an argument to be made to pull forward picks to this year for difference makers on cheap contracts then spend big in FA next year on remaining holes with all the cap that's been cleared which then starts the new 3-4 year window with the new stadium?

In the PFF simulator I can trade into the top 5/6/7 with #28, #133, Minnesota's 2025 2nd, and Kaiir Elam. No chance in hell something like that actually works right? Are they just using Kaiir's draft status plus 5th year option when calcing his value? Any chance a man scheme team that liked him 2 years ago values him as a day 2/high day 3 value for a trade up?

Gabe 🥺

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Franklin @ 28, Legette in a trade up from 60 and we're set for a while. Speed to burn

Not to mention DJ Reader played a lot more like a Chris Jones level impact than Ed Oliver level in the playoffs (a.k.a. neutralized completely)

I think in a vacuum there are many trade downs I could get behind but not this year. There is no way in hell I want KC getting first crack at a WR

I'll never forget you, Dalmar!

Don't even care about getting 182 back, pull the trigger on this if it's there!

Yes, OLine early over RB every damn day. Take as many day 3 shots on RB as you want but please no more premium picks on RB

Take a gander at who the Browns drafted with their Julio Jones haul. Atlanta won that trade by a LONG shot

Unless they have inside info that he's cooked, trading him inside the AFC to an ascending playoff team with a bidding star QB for essentially a late third round pick when considering the picks we gave back was assinine

Cleveland turned this into: Phil Taylor Greg Little Owen Marecic Brandon Weeden James-Michael Johnson LOL

Fine with this

Did he update his testing at his pro day or just weigh?

at #12 it would probably only cost this year's first, next year's first, and maybe one of our late 4th/early 5th this year? Then you could use later round 2024 picks to trade into next year (we shouldn't make 10+ picks this year anyway) and have a bevy of picks then to move up and replace some of the 2025 1st round value lost. If Odunze is a true X difference maker for Josh for years to come, will anyone care?