HaldimandBills

Would Toronto want in on the NFL action? Of course. Does the NFL want Toronto? Not really. They have the market through Buffalo and would rather those Toronto corporate dollars come to Highmark Stadium on game day. You'd have to have really deep pockets to make it worth it for the NFL. In short the NFL is never coming to Toronto unless some massive NFL fanatic Canadian with 10 billion to spare decides they want one.

No idea but you went off about Toronto and how they only support the Maple Leafs. Toronto has an excellent track record of supporting all its sports franchises except for the Argonauts. People also forget the fools running that series were asking for $ 400 a ticket to watch Trent Edwards and JP Losman back in 2010 which is crazy money even today. Toronto fans are much more NFL educated than any market outside the USA. They knew that entire Bills series was a scam and that the legit NFL Buffalo experience was a short drive down the highway. London, Mexico City, Berlin, Brazil, etc are not close to being as NFL educated as Toronto and are also not within a 6 hour drive from Buffalo, Detroit, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh. Any NFL fan in Toronto has been to an NFL game live and doesn't need Toronto to host a game to get their NFL fix. Those other cities need to attend the NFL when it comes to their city. TSN and Sportsnet did a poll of sporting interest and the NFL as whole only finished behind the Leafs in Southern Ontario. Ahead of the Jays and Raptors. NFL is huge in Toronto. You'll find fans of every team up here. Bills leading the way followed by the Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, and Niners. You would. The Bills players and the vast majority of fans would not. You could go to Madrid without the Bills having to play there like 99.99% of the population if you really wanted to see Madrid. The Toronto hatred is incredibly strong for some in here...

Really awful take. Gold Horseshoe (East side of Toronto to Niagara Region is a population of almost 10 million of which 7 million are white Canadians. Furthermore it's trendy and cool to love the NBA first and foremost for most recent immigrants followed by the NFL. It's hockey and baseball they're struggling to show interest in. Raptors, Jays, TFC all do very well attendance wise regardles if the team is competitive or not. Only the Argonauts attendance sucks. Very poor take.

Very bad take. No Bills fan should want Buffalo's international games played anywhere other than Toronto for travel sake alone. Ideally there is just no longer anymore international games.

I'm Canadian and live in Oakville... Seriously don't recognize the University of Waterloo emblem in my avatar? Toronto has nothing to offer the NFL. No improvement to TV revenue. The TSN and Sportsnet Toronto NFL team TV revenue would be an insignificant drop in the bucket compared to what the NFL already receives from TSN, DZN, and CTV for the Canadian NFL rights. Advertising revenue would be next to irrelevant. Stadium revenue given the up front cost wouldn't do anything for the NFL. NFL isn't the MLB, NHL, and NBA where teams have a local broadcast team to generate advertising revenue. NFL wants a bottom line of how you contribute to the total pie. How does Toronto help NBC, ESPN, FOX, ABC, and Amazon? It doesn't. Would Toronto be a healthy market in terms of stadium sellouts and local revenue for the Toronto NFL team owner? Yes. Does Toronto add anything to grander scale of the NFL? No. Given the cost to build a stadium expansion fees and everything else, I'd say it wouldn't be worth it for any potential owner. Buffalo already owns the Toronto market and Ralph Wilson knew this and went about it the wrong way. Pegula is being much more intelligent in his Toronto approach by bringing aboard Vince Carter, Tracy McGrady, and Jozy Altidore to tap into the deep pockets of Toronto by bringing them to Buffalo.

Toronto will never get a NFL team. Nor should they. As far as the NFL is concerned they have the Toronto and Vancouver market covered with Buffalo and Seattle. Montreal isn't anywhere near as crazy for NFL as the other two cities. NFL has maxed out Canada. Only thing the NFL wants from Toronto is more money pouring into Highmark Stadium from Toronto on Game Day. Toronto has nothing else to offer the NFL. It absolutely does otherwise it wouldn't have bailed out the CFL in 1997. NFL saved the CFL from going under. NFL wants to grow the game of football globally and there is value to having a league where guys can potentially evolve to playing in the NFL. NFL might not give a crap about the CFL as a competitive league but it absolutely wants it to exist.

Every football fan in Canada laughed at that statement. 1. Everyone remembers how disastrous the Bills in Toronto series was last time. 2. Toronto doesn't have a field suitable for NFL football as the Rogers Centre has been retrofitted for baseball only and BMO field maxes out at 42 000. 3. Canadian Bills fans made their voices loud and clear by boycotting anything Bills related to playing in Canada. 4. NFL won't do that that to the CFL ever again. 5. It serves no purpose to growing the fanbase. Josh Allen's alone is growing the Southern Ontario Buffalo Bills fanbase. Easily the most loved NFL player since Brett Favre.

Nope. Not even close. Just not someone whose built his life around creature comforts of sitting and TV. Nothing macho about it. Which is what's so depressing. People have really let themselves slip into basic comforts where they don't have a shred of basic resiliency. If watching an NFL game outdoors is becoming too much for people I'd really question where we are heading as a society. The fact you went to macho tough guy is another indicator of how far we are slipping as a society. It's not macho to want to watch a game outdoors. It's actually a very normal thing. If you're elderly and perfer a Dome I understand that completely. If you're not, you are likely a sit in air conditioning during the summer and stay indoors during the winter type of person. Is what it is.

Will find out. I wouldn't say 10 months post injury is toast. He certainly isn't the player he once was. I'll agree with you there. Another year removed from the Achilles injury could do wonders.

The way things are going Buffalo and Green Bay are going to be the only open aired stadiums with a grass field in the Northeast and Midwest. I love that. Will be unique and Bills Mafia will continue to be the working mans experience during Bills games. Eagles games like many other teams will become a non intimidating wine and cheese crowd. I want a loud, rowdy, passionate, but sane Bills crowd at home games. Corporate America is slowly killing what made so many things in the USA special by pandering to the elites. I guess I am not a wuss like many others on here. The partial roof and height of the field is going to eliminate most of the elements as is. Dome only made sense downtown.

https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2025/5/20/24434143/buffalo-bills-granted-international-marketing-rights-to-canada-by-nfl Not surprised by this. Surprised it took this long. The Bills are quite comfortably the 4th most popular sports team in Southern Ontario (excluding Ottawa) after the Leafs, Raptors, and Blue Jays. I'd also argue the NFL is the 2nd most followed league after the NHL.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/3288796 USA walks away with Gold. Comfortably Canada walks away with Silver. Comfortably. Not sure what the point is? Is it to grow a sport? Or watch NFL players grind the other countries into dust as NBC laughs hysterically at the profits? The only reason to add NFL talent is so casual fans go, "ohhhhh I know those football players. Me watch." It certainly serves no purpose in actually growing the game to a wider audience. or maybe it does. Other countries basketball programs have exploded even though America destroys them on the court. Maybe China, Brazil, Japan, Nigeria, Mexico, and France will be OK losing by 100 points?

Homer Take and Long Take Offense - Josh Allen mental game is catching up to his physical traits. We have a few years of peak Josh Allen before physical traits slowly come down. So best QB we have had? - Top 5 OL - RB room is top 10 but can go south if Cook isn't invested. - TE room is top 10. - 2021 with peak Diggs was our best receiving group with Allen. This group is much deeper 2 through 5. Remember when Davis and Mckenzie were options 2 and 3? ugh. Defense. - DL on paper is easily the best group. People forget the years of aging Jerry Hughes, Trent Murphy, Mario Addison, burnt out Floyd, and injured Von Miller as our DE in the playoffs. Buffalo has always had horrible DT depth. At least this year you can see a clear path to a productive interior pass rushing group. Run stuffing DT remains a issue but I imagine this will be mostly left to Daquan Jones who will no longer be relied upon on 3rd downs. - LB avg Unit but no reason to believe that both Bernard and Williams don't continue to improve. Milano is no longer an all Pro but is still good. 3rd year Dorian Williams and Hoecht (Yes I know considered a DE but will be playing LB snaps particularly against the Ravens and other power offenses) are easily the best immediate LB depth we have had. - Corners a lot rides on Maxwell Hairston development but do people really think this years version is worse than Levi Wallace, Elam, Dane Jackson, and aging Douglas? Would be nice to see Benford actually play a full game in the playoffs against the Chiefs (T White and Benford in their primes seem to always be injured late in the playoffs. This needs to change) - Safety Easily our 2nd worst safety room the Bills have had in the Josh Allen era outside last season. A LOT rides on Cole Bishops development. Nickle players with Hancock and Forrest could absolutely upgrade that unit just by actually being much more physical and athletic. All depends how long McDermott gets this group up to speed. I can deal with Raap for another season if we have actual athletes around him. All that is to say. I've seen better Chiefs and Ravens teams than their 2025 versions. I have never seen the AFC this loaded with above avg. teams in the Texans, Chargers, Broncos, Bengals, and possibly Steelers if Rogers goes there. Patriots and Raiders will not make the playoffs but will make every game difficult for their opponents. Bills need to finish 1st in the AFC because the stage is set up for them to go to the Superbowl. All comes down to the Bills 3rd down defense. If it goes to top 10 from 29 than good luck rest of the NFL not named Ravens, Chiefs, Lions, Rams, or Eagles.

NFL is doing a bunch of early schedule release announcements Monday and Tuesday with special guests. Dion Dawkins is one of the special guests. My guess is it's related to the Bills playing at home on Christmas in the Ralph's Last regular season home game.

I doubt it. It doesn't really work like that. Dropping 15 pounds doesn't up your RAS score from a 4 to a 9. One is an elite athlete and one isn't. Watching their college tape it is no contest. Landon Jackson is much more fluid than Epenesa.