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I know it was a running joke about Edmund's age always meaning he had upside but I think in the case of weight, a 21-year-old has more ability to pack on 7 or 8 pounds of muscle than maybe a 23-year-old. He may or may not pan out as a starter but let's not burn down 1 Bills Drive yet...

I was listening to Greg Cosell talk about the BIlls draft and he said that he liked Williams and that he played "bigger" than his size and bigger than Bernard. Said he was a good hitter. So that gave me some confidence.

Thanks for sharing. This gives me more confidence that AI won't take my job for a few months yet.

I wouldn't hate it if played out like that if it was more Shakir impressing rather than Kincaid underwhelming. I just think Kincaid has a much higher ceiling and with his college production he's not that far from realizing it at the NFL level. I could be wrong but that's my thinking.

Good listen. Rich is a good guy and a good interviewer. And Beane is a good listen. Pretty unbelievable that the president called Beane's number in the hospital and had a 15-minute call with Damar; regardless of what you think politically, I think that's pretty cool.

I'd be stunned if Shakir gets more yards than Kincaid.

I don't think Kincaid will get more than Davis but I'm fairly certain he'll get more than Knox. Kincaid's the new safety valve. Beasley with 60 lb. and far fewer annoying Tweets. Knox never was and will likely never be that.

Considering it's a passing league and our D has surrendered some big games to some upper-echelon tight ends, the following gives me some optimism: "Remains disciplined with coverage assignments, gets depth on pass drops, and easily runs downfield with tight ends." https://www.profootballnetwork.com/dorian-williams-lb-tulane-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/ " He has the athleticism to match up with tight ends and running backs in man coverage. In zone coverage..." https://thegamehaus.com/nfl-draft/dorian-williams-2023-nfl-draft-profile/2023/04/24/ "He can cover tight ends man-to-man and plays well in zone coverage." https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/buffalo_bills_2023_nfl_draft_review/s1_17198_38762510 "Carries tight ends and running backs with solid speed down the field." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10073386-dorian-williams-nfl-draft-2023-scouting-report-for-buffalo-bills-lb

The above video makes me a feel a little better about this pick. And the rumor that Pittsburgh liked him — they know LBs. Let's give the kid a chance...

People who know way more than I do about O-linemen here say that Cyrus is not a scheme fit. If true and we wasted as second round pick, I'd say a C-. If Cyrus is a good fit and player B+ as I love the Kincaid pick but not confident about the the LB pick.

I don't think it's logical to just look at first-round TE stats. A new first-round TE is more likely replicate the production of a third or fifth-round guy, than the other way around. If we drafted a TE in the fifth, no one would look at 1st-round TE production but logic does work the other way. For historically great TE production in a rookie season see here: https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-receiving-yards-by-a-rookie-tight-end-in-a-season Since 2010, there have been 8 TEs with at least 500 yards in their rookie season. However, 6 of those had fewer than 600 yards with one having 722 (Engram) and one with 1,026 (Pitts). Kincaid is more than capable of joining that plus-500-yards list.

Big boy, 6' 4" 229 lb.... Good for shorter contested stuff in zone: Shorter has shown to consistently win 50/50 jump-ball situations. Shorter is a smooth runner that, against zone with free releases, gets downfield and makes himself available for the quarterback by finding a hole in the defense. On short-to-intermediate routes, Shorter wins by using his body to shield defenders away from the ball and being able to make the catch. Shorter has a large catch radius so the quarterback simply has to put the ball in an area and there is a chance for Shorter to make the catch. https://thedraftnetwork.com/sr-prospect/justin-shorter-3c2b7acd-77bc-4c00-8d13-64ef196a4613/

1. He's got Allen throwing to him. 2. We really need a short chain-moving option Kincaid is now it. 3. I would be shocked he Kincaid doesn't get at least 500 yards. And I would not be shocked if he hits 800.

Ok, never heard of him but 4.40 40 and "good instincts" sounds good. The announcers said "instincts" and "instinctive" so, despite the hair, he may not be a smaller version of Edmunds.

Many think he has what it takes to be an elite receiving tight end. That's a win even if he's not as good as one of the top TEs of all time. But you have to remember, drafting at OT or guard at 27 can still bust too, or just result in a decent but nothing special player. When smart people like Daniel J. of the NFL network, PFF (yes, I we like them again ) and Chris Simms say he's top-10 or top-15 talent, we should be happy and give Beane the benefit of any doubts we amateurs have. IMHO.

For the love of Bruce Smith, let's not say the same thing 10 times in this thread. Especially if it's griping. Make your point/criticism and move on. To quote David Byrne, "Say something once, why say it again?"

Daniel Jeremiah’s No. 9 overall player in draft Ahead of Buffalo’s pick being announced, NFL Network’s Daniel Jeremiah gave the league a warning. “If this league allows Dalton Kincaid to go play with Josh Allen it’s probably going to get what it deserves.” https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2023/04/who-is-dalton-kincaid-buffalo-bills-got-a-guy-in-the-travis-kelce-mold-5-things-to-know.html After years of reaching for a top pick, it finally looks like we got a steal. I'm so stoked. For all the people saying we don't need this and Josh needs a deep threat, remember how well Josh played with a still-good Beasley. This will help Josh make fewer WTF hero ball plays and move the chains more and be a terror to opposing Ds n the red zone.

Me too. I have an autistic kid so that made me smile. I NEVER want to draft a good guy who is not a good player but Dalton really seems like both.

Saw some tape of him now and I had a poop-eating grin the whole time. Too big for CBs, too savvy and quick for LBs. We got a first-down machine who will not drop the ball. Love it .

You go through posts faster than I do drinks but you got this right so kudos.

I think if someone said the first WR goes at 20 most would have taken that...

Don't dismiss it; Tannehill's Corpse was among Washington Irving's finest works.

Thanks Gunner. 2 questions: I'm assuming watching a minimum of 3 games per player (and up to 7 or 8, I believe you said elsewhere) is a minimum of 1 hour (accounting for plays only as I assume you can fast-forward through non-play time) per player and probably closer to 1.5 hours on average. If so, that could be minimum of 136 hours and maybe closer to 200 hours of work. Is this range close? Where the heck do you find the time? Second, if you were Gm, what would be your six picks (say no trade) for the Bills, based on where you expect everyone to go? Cheers.